Drove a Tesla today, why are people offended by them

Drove a Tesla today, why are people offended by them

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Chestrockwell

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2,838 posts

171 months

Friday 6th June
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I had to deliver a 20 plate Tesla model 3 standard range + to a customer today, 25 mile trip.

I believe its the entry level model and I think I want one, with 'only' 270 bhp, it feels a lot quicker than the numbers suggest, it's comfortable, quiet (in terms of wind noise) and the steering felt very in tune with the front wheels. I didn't thrash it or throw it round corners, only thing I did was accelerate in brief moments to speed limit and steer left to right once and the steering felt more connected than my previous M240i.

The fit and finish seemed fine during my brief drive, to be honest, there isn't much to judge it by as it's so minimalistic, the screen intimidated me at first but it's actually very simple and easy to use.

The 'soul' argument baffles me, tell me where the 'soul' is in a 520d?

Yes I would prefer a M4 but I had an M4 and I wouldn't be able to commute in one like I would a Tesla. In fact, I sold my M240i because it cost too much to run to do a daily 30 mile commute. A Tesla wouldn't!

Now in my case, I won't buy one but as a company car? Give me one over any 520 or E220

Quattr04.

574 posts

5 months

Friday 6th June
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It’s just people not liking things that are different and a change from the norm, for so long we’ve had stuff like the 3 series being the go to car especially for company car drivers and it’s now been replaced by the model 3

I think the early ones had some bad build quality but show me a American built car that isn’t

I think people hate on them because they hate the idea of electric cars but Tesla did it so well, coming up with the car and also putting in the infrastructure.

I think they’re a bit ugly but no worse than a i4.

People don’t like the big screen but again, you get used to it

People don’t like musk now but that’s just jumping on the bandwagon too

Not good to drive but still capable just like a Audi A4

Cristio Nasser

258 posts

7 months

Friday 6th June
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Objectively decent cars. Subjectively undesirable cars because of the Musk induced baggage they come with that most people just don’t want to have to deal with.

InformationSuperHighway

6,865 posts

198 months

Friday 6th June
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For commuting / company car reasons yes they make sense. But for me the overwhealming issue is the nature and pain around charging vs filling up with fuel.

Yes it's a thousand times better now than before and 'most' journeys it won't be a problem, but I just don't like the fact that it could be one.. however rare.

Also 30-45 minutes to charge up vs 5 minute petrol stop etc...

Not against people buying them if it works for them.. just not for me.

Not exclusive to Tesla, but all electric.

Chestrockwell

Original Poster:

2,838 posts

171 months

Friday 6th June
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Cristio Nasser said:
Objectively decent cars. Subjectively undesirable cars because of the Musk induced baggage they come with that most people just don t want to have to deal with.
I don't understand how people can hate a car because of a person when that person hasn't done anything that has affected them personally yet they will willingly continue to shop in supermarkets like Tesco's and Sainsburys who are making record breaking billions in profits off the cost of living crisis

AddyT.

230 posts

107 months

Friday 6th June
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I won’t be buying an electric car as they certainly aren’t for me.

However, just got back from a holiday in the US and had several Uber rides in EV’s. The one that surprised me in being a bit better than I expected was actually the Mustang Mach E. We went in a few Model 3’s and I do think you could tell Tesla have been doing it longer than pretty much anyone else. But!…one Model 3’s steering wheel had badly peeled off which was a little eye opening!

Crumpet

4,345 posts

194 months

Friday 6th June
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They’re one of the few cars that make me feel car-sick, in the rear at least. The ride just always seems choppy and unpleasant. Other than that I’ve got no objections to them and don’t mind them as simple transport.

georgejoshington

409 posts

176 months

Friday 6th June
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Chestrockwell said:
I don't understand how people can hate a car because of a person when that person hasn't done anything that has affected them personally yet they will willingly continue to shop in supermarkets like Tesco's and Sainsburys who are making record breaking billions in profits off the cost of living crisis
When was the last time you saw the CEO of either supermarket sieg heil in front of the whole world?

John87

896 posts

172 months

Friday 6th June
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I'm not offended by Tesla's and actually prefer an EV for daily driving. I just find them ugly and bland to look at, don't like the low windscreen from the inside making it feel like you are sitting "on" it rather than "in" it and think they are far too common.

Not an EV issue, not a Musk issue but just a personal preference for one car over another.

Dave Hedgehog

14,912 posts

218 months

Friday 6th June
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im not offended by tesla, i own a M3 perf, its white goods, a washing machine, fast but zero engagement, fantastic for cheap commuting (until the steerting failed..)

I am offended by Musk

georgeyboy12345

3,903 posts

49 months

Friday 6th June
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Chestrockwell

Original Poster:

2,838 posts

171 months

Friday 6th June
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georgejoshington said:
Chestrockwell said:
I don't understand how people can hate a car because of a person when that person hasn't done anything that has affected them personally yet they will willingly continue to shop in supermarkets like Tesco's and Sainsburys who are making record breaking billions in profits off the cost of living crisis
When was the last time you saw the CEO of either supermarket sieg heil in front of the whole world?
I don't want to turn this into an Elon Debate however you can't seriously believe Elon Musk is a nazi

georgejoshington

409 posts

176 months

Friday 6th June
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Chestrockwell said:
georgejoshington said:
Chestrockwell said:
I don't understand how people can hate a car because of a person when that person hasn't done anything that has affected them personally yet they will willingly continue to shop in supermarkets like Tesco's and Sainsburys who are making record breaking billions in profits off the cost of living crisis
When was the last time you saw the CEO of either supermarket sieg heil in front of the whole world?
I don't want to turn this into an Elon Debate however you can't seriously believe Elon Musk is a nazi
I believe he sieg heil’d in a somewhat public forum.

Michael_B

1,014 posts

114 months

Friday 6th June
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Chestrockwell said:
I don't want to turn this into an Elon Debate however you can't seriously believe Elon Musk is a nazi
As a Jewish colleague said to me the other day, “It’s obvious Elon Musk isn’t a Nazi… because they actually made decent cars!”

Zingari

921 posts

187 months

Friday 6th June
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georgejoshington said:
Chestrockwell said:
georgejoshington said:
Chestrockwell said:
I don't understand how people can hate a car because of a person when that person hasn't done anything that has affected them personally yet they will willingly continue to shop in supermarkets like Tesco's and Sainsburys who are making record breaking billions in profits off the cost of living crisis
When was the last time you saw the CEO of either supermarket sieg heil in front of the whole world?
I don't want to turn this into an Elon Debate however you can't seriously believe Elon Musk is a nazi
I believe he sieg heil d in a somewhat public forum.
A classic piece of click bait media manipulation. From memory the hand came from his heart before he stretched out his arm. However any heartfelt reference is nowhere near as newsworthy as refering to him as a supporter ot the third reich rolleyes

The guys a genius, a bit weird, but a (very wealthy) genius.

I'm not an EV buyer but if I was it would be a Tesla. You have to hand it to Musk that he invested in the infrasture first before he started releasing the cars for sale with charging stations that are unique to his cars. Unlike any other EV that has to use any one of several charging station operators requiring owners to have an App/card/membership for each one. Excluding Tesla the other charging operators reminds me of the 80s when you had the VHS/Betamax/Phillips debacle before VHS won through.

Huntsman

8,732 posts

264 months

Friday 6th June
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Chestrockwell said:
I had to deliver a 20 plate Tesla model 3 standard range + to a customer today, 25 mile trip.

I believe its the entry level model and I think I want one, with 'only' 270 bhp, it feels a lot quicker than the numbers suggest, it's comfortable, quiet (in terms of wind noise) and the steering felt very in tune with the front wheels. I didn't thrash it or throw it round corners, only thing I did was accelerate in brief moments to speed limit and steer left to right once and the steering felt more connected than my previous M240i.

The fit and finish seemed fine during my brief drive, to be honest, there isn't much to judge it by as it's so minimalistic, the screen intimidated me at first but it's actually very simple and easy to use.

The 'soul' argument baffles me, tell me where the 'soul' is in a 520d?

Yes I would prefer a M4 but I had an M4 and I wouldn't be able to commute in one like I would a Tesla. In fact, I sold my M240i because it cost too much to run to do a daily 30 mile commute. A Tesla wouldn't!

Now in my case, I won't buy one but as a company car? Give me one over any 520 or E220
I've been in a Model 3 around Southampton half a dozen times, the ride quality was bloody terrible, I wouldnt buy one for that reason.

Torquey

1,928 posts

242 months

Friday 6th June
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My thoughts are exactly the same as the OP.

There are not many ICE cars under £80k that come close.

The depreciation puts me if buying privately, but as a company car I wouldn't think twice.

Quattr04.

574 posts

5 months

Friday 6th June
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InformationSuperHighway said:
For commuting / company car reasons yes they make sense. But for me the overwhealming issue is the nature and pain around charging vs filling up with fuel.

Yes it's a thousand times better now than before and 'most' journeys it won't be a problem, but I just don't like the fact that it could be one.. however rare.

Also 30-45 minutes to charge up vs 5 minute petrol stop etc...

Not against people buying them if it works for them.. just not for me.

Not exclusive to Tesla, but all electric.
People spout this about petrol station as if you never go to one and it’s go no fuel

Or you go to one and it’s really busy

Or you go to one and it’s expansive

Remember post Covid when BP and shell said they had no drivers and prices shot up to £2 a litre and people queued for hours, then that woman set fire to her self in her kitchen cause she was keeping Jerry cans of fuel?

eliot

11,879 posts

268 months

Friday 6th June
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Chestrockwell said:
.In fact, I sold my M240i because it cost too much to run to do a daily 30 mile commute. A Tesla wouldn't!
a 30 mile commute isn’t very far. It just means you can’t afford an M240i ?

NDA

23,160 posts

239 months

Friday 6th June
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Chestrockwell said:
I don't understand how people can hate a car because of a person when that person hasn't done anything that has affected them personally yet they will willingly continue to shop in supermarkets like Tesco's and Sainsburys who are making record breaking billions in profits off the cost of living crisis
Musk owns around 13% of Tesla - the rest is institutional investments such as pension companies.

People in the UK getting all handbaggy about Tesla and Musk is pretty funny.