Should an asteroid impact be taken more seriously?
Should an asteroid impact be taken more seriously?
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srebbe64

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Sunday 2nd October 2005
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Apparently the location of asteroids and comets has been left, largely, to amateurs. Statistically, I am more likely to die from an asteroid impact than win the lottery (because of the billions that could be killed). It's not a case of 'if' but 'when' the next one hits. Wouldn't the money being spent in, say, Iraq be better spent on detection of such objects and finding a solution? Also, wouldn't it be ironic if billions were spent reducing CO2 levels, only for a space object to wipe us all out!

2 Smokin Barrels

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265 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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Yes

Yes

rich 36

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296 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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is this a bad time Steve, we could come back

2 Smokin Barrels

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265 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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Yes

Lois

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282 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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I remember a few years ago there was talk of an asteroid in line to hit earth in X number of years. No idea what happened to that one, maybe the cat knocked the telescope!

2 Smokin Barrels

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Sunday 2nd October 2005
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anonymous said:
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It's tomorrow

dilbert

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261 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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I know that you're a religious man Srebbe. I think it might stand you in good stead on this one.

I don't think even the combined monies that have been spent on the Iraq, Afghan and Serbian wars would solve this problem. This is particuarly true with respect to government funded initiatives.

It's true that this has been left to "Amateur Astros" to spot, but that's not actually a bad thing.

Asteroids are small and the sky is big. There is more chance of spotting one early, when you're looking for something else, than there is if you specifically look for the things.

This isnt strictly true, but there are significant practical issues.

A further thought, is what the heck do you do if one of these things is coming at you.

This is the whole problem with big government initiatives. Some people in government assume that they can just ask for a fix. The reality is that you have to wait for a feasible idea to come along. If you're not funding science and technology, then the ideas just won't materialise.

There's a massive backlog of groundwork that we'd have to to to get on top of this issue. The question is, how would britain propose to destroy an object the size of a city, travelling at perhaps an eighth of the speed of light. We cant even get into orbit.

I'm not religious, but I think even I might pray on that one!

HTH.

Balmoral Green

42,561 posts

278 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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Yep, were all ed



And a few hundred million years later we will all be sparrows, just like T rex (the dinosaur, not the rock group).

rich 36

13,739 posts

296 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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Blimey,



AM or PM ? just so I know where i'll be like!

srebbe64

Original Poster:

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267 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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dilbert said:
I know that you're a religious man Srebbe. I think it might stand you in good stead on this one.

I don't think even the combined monies that have been spent on the Iraq, Afghan and Serbian wars would solve this problem. This is particuarly true with respect to government funded initiatives.

It's true that this has been left to "Amateur Astros" to spot, but that's not actually a bad thing.

Asteroids are small and the sky is big. There is more chance of spotting one early, when you're looking for something else, than there is if you specifically look for the things.

This isnt strictly true, but there are significant practical issues.

A further thought, is what the heck do you do if one of these things is coming at you.

This is the whole problem with big government initiatives. Some people in government assume that they can just ask for a fix. The reality is that you have to wait for a feasible idea to come along. If you're not funding science and technology, then the ideas just won't materialise.

There's a massive backlog of groundwork that we'd have to to to get on top of this issue. The question is, how would britain propose to destroy an object the size of a city, travelling at perhaps an eighth of the speed of light. We cant even get into orbit.

I'm not religious, but I think even I might pray on that one!

HTH.

Are you mad Dilbert? An eigth the speed of light? Typically it'll be travelling 5 miles per second. Light travels at 186,000 miles per second.

Secondly, the further away one is the less of a nudge it will need and the more time we'll have to develop a solution. As such, I think we should start looking with more vigour!

Balmoral Green

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278 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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rich 36 said:
AM or PM ? just so I know where i'll be like!
Why? have you got a gas man coming or something?

rich 36

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296 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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Well you know what their like,
any excuse, and theres always my tickets for the 'trish' show comin' as well

andy mac

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285 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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I'd rather it came in the morning, so I wouldn't do a days work, and get killed while knackered..I'd much rather it be while I was having a nice lie in, breakfast in bed, or something...

2 Smokin Barrels

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Sunday 2nd October 2005
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If you stay on the left you should be O.K.

else it might meet-your-right

D_Mike

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270 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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If I knew of an asteroid, due to hit the earth in say 30 years or so, I would just initiate a mission to go to it and attatch a bloody big solar sail on it. It would probably be enough to push it off course. If not just use rockets.

srebbe64

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267 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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Until this year, the countries round the Indian Ocean couldn't agree, or fund, a tsunami warning system. Unlike tsunamis, the problem with asteroids is humanity won't get a yellow card - it's straight red. Although, I guess, Scumacher-Levy hitting Jupiter could be deemed as a yellow card.

planetdave

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283 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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andy mac said:
I'd rather it came in the morning, so I wouldn't do a days work, and get killed while knackered..I'd much rather it be while I was having a nice lie in, breakfast in bed, or something...


Twins Basil!

chim666

2,337 posts

295 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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srebbe64 said:
Apparently the location of asteroids and comets has been left, largely, to amateurs.




That might have been the case in the past, but those 'discovered' by amateurs are now vastly outweighed by those found by L.I.N.E.A.R.

http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/neo/

"Currently, LINEAR telescopes observe each patch of sky 5 times in one evening with most of the efforts going into searching along the ecliptic plane where most NEOs would be expected. The sensitivity of their CCDs, and particularly their relatively rapid read out rates, allows LINEAR to cover large areas of sky each night. Currently, the LINEAR program is responsible for the majority of NEO discoveries."

edited to add that an NEO is a Near Earth Object.


So don't worry - NASA's looking after us!

>> Edited by chim666 on Sunday 2nd October 19:26

>> Edited by chim666 on Sunday 2nd October 19:36

thunderstruck

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Sunday 2nd October 2005
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turbobloke

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Sunday 2nd October 2005
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2 Smokin Barrels said:
If you stay on the left you should be O.K. else it might meet-your-right
it's all bolides if you ask me