Speed Cameras: Are They Out To Get You?

[bad company]

On tv channel 5 this evening at 8pm. Worth watching imo.

[JNW1]

bad company said:

On tv channel 5 this evening at 8pm. Worth watching imo.

It was interesting in some respects but also a touch misleading in others. For example, it mentioned that here in North Yorkshire we have no fixed speeding cameras (which is true) but that seemed to morph into the county not using speed cameras which is absolutely not the case - it does (and quite extensively), it's just they're mobile rather than fixed!

I also found it a bit light on analysis. For instance, when they were talking about the different approach Wiltshire had taken compared to neighbouring counties it would have been nice to see some comparative data on things like the level of KSI's to show what effect that policy had had; does Wiltshire's policy mean they have lots more accidents - with more people killed or seriously injured as a result - or is their rate of KSI's not significantly different from the neighbouring counties who use cameras extensively? No mention of that in the programme which I thought was disappointing.

It did however show an example of a Traffic Officer exercising her discretion and choosing not to take further action against someone who was slightly over the speed limit but recently bereaved and obviously upset. The sort of common sense you wouldn't get with a camera...

[HJG]

I could not believe what I was hearing when the Welsh police officer (I dont remember her rank), said the 20mph rollout/results/potential for future rollout was 'exciting'.

[bad company]

JNW1 said:

It was interesting in some respects but also a touch misleading in others. For example, it mentioned that here in North Yorkshire we have no fixed speeding cameras (which is true) but that seemed to morph into the county not using speed cameras which is absolutely not the case - it does (and quite extensively), it's just they're mobile rather than fixed!

I also found it a bit light on analysis. For instance, when they were talking about the different approach Wiltshire had taken compared to neighbouring counties it would have been nice to see some comparative data on things like the level of KSI's to show what effect that policy had had; does Wiltshire's policy mean they have lots more accidents - with more people killed or seriously injured as a result - or is their rate of KSI's not significantly different from the neighbouring counties who use cameras extensively? No mention of that in the programme which I thought was disappointing.

It did however show an example of a Traffic Officer exercising her discretion and choosing not to take further action against someone who was slightly over the speed limit but recently bereaved and obviously upset. The sort of common sense you wouldn't get with a camera...

Interesting analysis. I’ve been out for the evening so will watch on catchup.

[BossHogg]

I see Steve Callaghan made an appearance, didn't he used to be a member on here?

[JNW1]

BossHogg said:

I see Steve Callaghan made an appearance, didn't he used to be a member on here?

I think he went under more than one username but you're right, I'm sure he was a regular poster on here going back a few years.

[BossHogg]

If memory serves, he had quite a turbulent exchange of words with a few members who disagreed with his tactics.

[I am alright Jack]

BossHogg said:

I see Steve Callaghan made an appearance, didn't he used to be a member on here?

I believe he still posts on here.

[bad company]

I am alright Jack said:

BossHogg said:

I see Steve Callaghan made an appearance, didn't he used to be a member on here?

I believe he still posts on here.

Does anyone know his username?

[Master Bean]

bad company said:

I am alright Jack said:

BossHogg said:

I see Steve Callaghan made an appearance, didn't he used to be a member on here?

I believe he still posts on here.

Does anyone know his username?

Neil Chambers.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

[768]

bad company said:

I am alright Jack said:

BossHogg said:

I see Steve Callaghan made an appearance, didn't he used to be a member on here?

I believe he still posts on here.

Does anyone know his username?

This would be my guess.

[I am alright Jack]

Master Bean said:

Neil Chambers.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

It may have been that but it's not any more and I can't actually remember what it is now.

Credit where it's due though he does actually know what he's talking about but unfortunately it's his attitude that annoys people, but that could be said about quite a few posters.

EDIT Didn't see the post above which I think is correct.

Edited by I am alright Jack on Thursday 12th June 10:18

[Red Devil]

768 said:

bad company said:

I am alright Jack said:

BossHogg said:

I see Steve Callaghan made an appearance, didn't he used to be a member on here?

I believe he still posts on here.

Does anyone know his username?

This would be my guess.

That's the latest iteration. Longer serving PHers will remember this one. He's not plod. Worked (and I believe still does) for this lot.

[Frimley111R]

HJG said:

I could not believe what I was hearing when the Welsh police officer (I dont remember her rank), said the 20mph rollout/results/potential for future rollout was 'exciting'.

It's the tragic lives some people lead. I remember vividly working for British Gas in the 90s and a graduate said to me "We're going to be doing electricity, it's really exciting". I thought "fk me, I need to get out of here."

[Googie]

HJG said:

I could not believe what I was hearing when the Welsh police officer (I dont remember her rank), said the 20mph rollout/results/potential for future rollout was 'exciting'.

Me neither - worryingly that was a Chief Constable- Lead for Roads- National Police Chiefs Council

[Furbo]

768 said:

bad company said:

I am alright Jack said:

BossHogg said:

I see Steve Callaghan made an appearance, didn't he used to be a member on here?

I believe he still posts on here.

Does anyone know his username?

This would be my guess.

I think he does but I won’t say who I think he is, because I am not sure 100 percent.

All I would say is be careful what you write here because he is a special chap whose only desire in life is to make life difficult for motorists.

[andygo]

Furbo said:

I think he does but I won t say who I think he is, because I am not sure 100 percent.

All I would say is be careful what you write here because he is a special chap whose only desire in life is to make life difficult for motorists.

Is his surname Khan, lives in London?

[Furbo]

andygo said:

Furbo said:

I think he does but I won t say who I think he is, because I am not sure 100 percent.

All I would say is be careful what you write here because he is a special chap whose only desire in life is to make life difficult for motorists.

Is his surname Khan, lives in London?

I’ve heard him referred to as something sounding similar but it was with a “t”.

[Simpo Two]

JNW1 said:

For instance, when they were talking about the different approach Wiltshire had taken compared to neighbouring counties it would have been nice to see some comparative data on things like the level of KSI's to show what effect that policy had had; does Wiltshire's policy mean they have lots more accidents - with more people killed or seriously injured as a result - or is their rate of KSI's not significantly different from the neighbouring counties who use cameras extensively? No mention of that in the programme which I thought was disappointing.

I'll hazard a guess that the answer would be embarrassing to so many people and institutions that it was avoided. A bit like telling people in 1650 that God didn't exist.

[JNW1]

Simpo Two said:

JNW1 said:

For instance, when they were talking about the different approach Wiltshire had taken compared to neighbouring counties it would have been nice to see some comparative data on things like the level of KSI's to show what effect that policy had had; does Wiltshire's policy mean they have lots more accidents - with more people killed or seriously injured as a result - or is their rate of KSI's not significantly different from the neighbouring counties who use cameras extensively? No mention of that in the programme which I thought was disappointing.

I'll hazard a guess that the answer would be embarrassing to so many people and institutions that it was avoided. A bit like telling people in 1650 that God didn't exist.

When I last looked at it for North Yorkshire the effect of their mobile camera fleet on the county’s KSI statistics had been the square root of naff all. To be fair it’s been a couple of years since I last checked the numbers but I doubt they’ll have changed much.

So I suspect your guess probably isn’t too far wide of the mark!