Soffit and fascia replacement
Discussion
Hi All
We've a standard 2 bed semi which has the original wooden soffits and fascias front and back which have peeled and discoloured.
It has been on our to-do list for a while, though when my wife was home a fella knocked the door and gave her a leaflet for their company saying they're doing some work nearby if we also wanted them to quote for the replacement.
I wouldn't usually use a company advertising like that anyway and would rather find them myself, but when she asked for a rough price he said 'hmmmm about £4k.'
Is that.... about right? Maybe I'm naive to the work involved but I was surprised. This was to remove the existing wooden ones and replace with plastic, not to cap over whats already there
I'll do my own research to local companies that can do it, but I'm wondering whether Mr Leaflet was simply a chancer hoping my wife had £4k cash lying around or whether I need to retrain
Cheers
We've a standard 2 bed semi which has the original wooden soffits and fascias front and back which have peeled and discoloured.
It has been on our to-do list for a while, though when my wife was home a fella knocked the door and gave her a leaflet for their company saying they're doing some work nearby if we also wanted them to quote for the replacement.
I wouldn't usually use a company advertising like that anyway and would rather find them myself, but when she asked for a rough price he said 'hmmmm about £4k.'
Is that.... about right? Maybe I'm naive to the work involved but I was surprised. This was to remove the existing wooden ones and replace with plastic, not to cap over whats already there
I'll do my own research to local companies that can do it, but I'm wondering whether Mr Leaflet was simply a chancer hoping my wife had £4k cash lying around or whether I need to retrain
Cheers
Edited by Sycamore on Thursday 12th June 14:18
The materials are cheap as chips but the effect is quiet striking - this is why the 'roofline' gig is a favourite with our traveller friends who will overclad using mostly silicone off a ladder in a day and charge the unsuspecting an inflated price.
Personally I would never deal with anyone cold calling or dishing out leaflets for this sort of work.
(I'm a surveyor and regularly do reports for trading standards into this sort of work - dry ridge, dry verge, fascias and soffits are favourites among such scammers)
Personally I would never deal with anyone cold calling or dishing out leaflets for this sort of work.
(I'm a surveyor and regularly do reports for trading standards into this sort of work - dry ridge, dry verge, fascias and soffits are favourites among such scammers)
StreetDragster said:
I have just had my soffits, facias, bargeboards and gutters replaced, finished yesterday.
North West England, 4 bed detached, £4k plus scaffolding which was £1200 for the two gables ends.
Had quotes all between 4 and 6k.
Thanks for the example - So for a smaller house and no gutters, my doorstop friend is taking the piss North West England, 4 bed detached, £4k plus scaffolding which was £1200 for the two gables ends.
Had quotes all between 4 and 6k.
Lotobear said:
The materials are cheap as chips but the effect is quiet striking - this is why the 'roofline' gig is a favourite with our traveller friends who will overclad using mostly silicone off a ladder in a day and charge the unsuspecting an inflated price.
Personally I would never deal with anyone cold calling or dishing out leaflets for this sort of work.
(I'm a surveyor and regularly do reports for trading standards into this sort of work - dry ridge, dry verge, fascias and soffits are favourites among such scammers)
Yep makes sense - And I did ask my wife what accent he had Personally I would never deal with anyone cold calling or dishing out leaflets for this sort of work.
(I'm a surveyor and regularly do reports for trading standards into this sort of work - dry ridge, dry verge, fascias and soffits are favourites among such scammers)
Skyedriver said:
Interesting, I was quote a hell of a lot more by the reputable (and a friend) guys who did our windows.
Problem was, the gutters. because of their age the plastic will have gone brittle and they'd end up replacing them all too.
This company mostly do windows it seems too. How old were the gutters? These will be the original from mid 90's so I assume the same issue. Problem was, the gutters. because of their age the plastic will have gone brittle and they'd end up replacing them all too.
I hope your neighbour is 'normal' and doesn't intend to erect a Pergoka without asking you first:
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Lotobear said:
Personally I would never deal with anyone cold calling or dishing out leaflets for this sort of work.
(I'm a surveyor and regularly do reports for trading standards into this sort of work - dry ridge, dry verge, fascias and soffits are favourites among such scammers)
This. If they need to advertise with leaflets or door knocking I wouldn’t touch them with a barge board.(I'm a surveyor and regularly do reports for trading standards into this sort of work - dry ridge, dry verge, fascias and soffits are favourites among such scammers)
andy43 said:
Lotobear said:
Personally I would never deal with anyone cold calling or dishing out leaflets for this sort of work.
(I'm a surveyor and regularly do reports for trading standards into this sort of work - dry ridge, dry verge, fascias and soffits are favourites among such scammers)
This. If they need to advertise with leaflets or door knocking I wouldn t touch them with a barge board.(I'm a surveyor and regularly do reports for trading standards into this sort of work - dry ridge, dry verge, fascias and soffits are favourites among such scammers)
The surveyors fee for this is 10% of the cost of works + whatever they’ve been paid so far to do a survey and send out the tender forms.
The cheapest quote so far for this work? A bargainiferous £150,000+VAT. So cost to owners for this work will cost owners £200,000.
And the fascias and soffits don’t even need replacing.
So there is daylight robbery at both ends of the market.
PhilboSE said:
On the other hand, I m currently battling with the directors (a collective of retired ladies) of the residents association of a block of flats where my daughter owns a unit. They ve commissioned a group of surveyors to get contractors to replace the fascias, soffits & gutters on 4 blocks like this:
The surveyors fee for this is 10% of the cost of works + whatever they ve been paid so far to do a survey and send out the tender forms.
The cheapest quote so far for this work? A bargainiferous £150,000+VAT. So cost to owners for this work will cost owners £200,000.
And the fascias and soffits don t even need replacing.
So there is daylight robbery at both ends of the market.
Any chance there’s asbestos there? That’d add a zero to the quotes. Looks like it could be the right era?The surveyors fee for this is 10% of the cost of works + whatever they ve been paid so far to do a survey and send out the tender forms.
The cheapest quote so far for this work? A bargainiferous £150,000+VAT. So cost to owners for this work will cost owners £200,000.
And the fascias and soffits don t even need replacing.
So there is daylight robbery at both ends of the market.
Panamax said:
More generally, do not under ANY circumstances let anyone fit plastic covers over your existing woodwork.
What s the issue with fitting covers to sound timber?Surely, it saves disturbing what s there, less waste and gives a better structure to screw gutter supports into?
Obviously, poorly fitted capping would allow moisture to cause timber to rot whilst hidden but I m not sure I see benefit in removing good timber that in some cases has been there for 50+ years and UPVC is just being used instead of paint or varnish.
andy43 said:
Any chance there s asbestos there? That d add a zero to the quotes. Looks like it could be the right era?
Right era but no asbestos. I’ve being doing a full refurb of the inside and tested loads of stuff and nothing. I’ve also drilled through the soffits to install a bathroom fan extractor outlet - nice solid timber about an inch thickThere’s a few areas that have a tiny bit of rot across the whole estate but easily fixable. Gutters do need replacing but fascias and soffits just need a bit of carpentry and then proper prep and decoration.
The Directors of the RA (who do a good job organising gardening and minor repairs) are totally out of their depth on major works. They know this, but rather than let me help them (with more than average experience in this area) they are just throwing money at surveyors, who are taking us to the cleaners.
Pistom said:
Panamax said:
More generally, do not under ANY circumstances let anyone fit plastic covers over your existing woodwork.
What s the issue with fitting covers to sound timber?Surely, it saves disturbing what s there, less waste and gives a better structure to screw gutter supports into?
Obviously, poorly fitted capping would allow moisture to cause timber to rot whilst hidden but I m not sure I see benefit in removing good timber that in some cases has been there for 50+ years and UPVC is just being used instead of paint or varnish.
PhilboSE said:
On the other hand, I m currently battling with the directors (a collective of retired ladies) of the residents association of a block of flats where my daughter owns a unit. They ve commissioned a group of surveyors to get contractors to replace the fascias, soffits & gutters on 4 blocks like this:
The surveyors fee for this is 10% of the cost of works + whatever they ve been paid so far to do a survey and send out the tender forms.
The cheapest quote so far for this work? A bargainiferous £150,000+VAT. So cost to owners for this work will cost owners £200,000.
And the fascias and soffits don t even need replacing.
So there is daylight robbery at both ends of the market.
That looks pretty easy to scaffold but four guys with two MEWPs should make easy work of that. £30K for all four blocks?The surveyors fee for this is 10% of the cost of works + whatever they ve been paid so far to do a survey and send out the tender forms.
The cheapest quote so far for this work? A bargainiferous £150,000+VAT. So cost to owners for this work will cost owners £200,000.
And the fascias and soffits don t even need replacing.
So there is daylight robbery at both ends of the market.
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