Best way to invest 60k
Best way to invest 60k
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Jurgen100

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147 posts

55 months

Saturday 14th June
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Hi all,

I will have approximately 60k to invest from an impending car sale and I'm looking for suggestions where to invest. I'll be able to split the full amount across the family S&S ISA's.

I currently hold the following funds:
Legal & General US Index
iShares Core MSCI World ETF
Rathbone Global Opportunities
CT European Select
Jupiter India

The kids also hold Artemis Global Income which has done very well and I'll probably just top that up with their proportion of the funds.

Looking at an investment window of approx. 8 years. Should I just start up a position in Artemis myself, split across the funds I already hold, or dump all in one (leaning towards the iShares Core MSCI World ETF if I did this).

Any suggestions, guidance etc most appreciated.


Johnson897210

832 posts

12 months

Saturday 14th June
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Vanguard Lifestrategy seems to be quite popular on here.

anonymous-user

73 months

Saturday 14th June
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S&P500

Jurgen100

Original Poster:

147 posts

55 months

Sunday 15th June
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Cheese on Toast with Worcestershire Sauce said:
S&P500
Is there a particular fund that covers the S&P500?

bitchstewie

61,321 posts

229 months

Sunday 15th June
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S&P 500 is just some weird goto based on what's done well recently IMO.

Just because it's done well recently doesn't mean it will continue to do well and no IFA in their right mind would tell someone with £60K spare and an 8 year timescale to stick it in the S&P 500.

mike13

743 posts

201 months

Sunday 15th June
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I’m in a similar situation with a similar amount, been doing a lot of reading/watching financial videos, the majority steering clear of SP500.
Many of them looking instead into European funds.

Jurgen100

Original Poster:

147 posts

55 months

Sunday 15th June
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bhstewie said:
S&P 500 is just some weird goto based on what's done well recently IMO.

Just because it's done well recently doesn't mean it will continue to do well and no IFA in their right mind would tell someone with £60K spare and an 8 year timescale to stick it in the S&P 500.
Interesting. One option I have is just to spread across my existing funds. Just undecided if I should load up some more than others.

bitchstewie

61,321 posts

229 months

Sunday 15th June
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Nobody knows.

I've taken a conscious decision that I don't want as much exposure to the US as a global tracker would give but that isn't based on anything I'd ever suggest anyone else do as I'm essentially guessing.

A globally weighted tracker or multi-asset fund is about as neutral as you can get.

mikeiow

7,375 posts

149 months

Sunday 15th June
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Jurgen100 said:
bhstewie said:
S&P 500 is just some weird goto based on what's done well recently IMO.

Just because it's done well recently doesn't mean it will continue to do well and no IFA in their right mind would tell someone with £60K spare and an 8 year timescale to stick it in the S&P 500.
Interesting. One option I have is just to spread across my existing funds. Just undecided if I should load up some more than others.
Have you got a feel for how those existing funds are doing?
I’d probably spread it across them.
I’d personally stick some (probs £10k) in PBs for ‘the chance’ to win a bit more. Not investing, but capital safe….unless you already have 50k in those.

RSTurboPaul

12,458 posts

277 months

Sunday 15th June
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Britannias in the PMs of your choice, held physically.

Simpo Two

90,000 posts

284 months

Sunday 15th June
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Jurgen100 said:
Cheese on Toast with Worcestershire Sauce said:
S&P500
Is there a particular fund that covers the S&P500?
Plenty of S&P500 trackers. But unless you have plenty invested elsewhere, don't put all £60K into it, you should spread the risk.

C69

944 posts

31 months

Sunday 15th June
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Jurgen100 said:
Cheese on Toast with Worcestershire Sauce said:
S&P500
Is there a particular fund that covers the S&P500?
Don't people just say 'S&P500' as a joke now in threads like this?

OP, you already hold the L&G US Index fund which essentially does the same job (it just happens to use the FTSE USA Index as a benchmark rather than S&P's).

C69

944 posts

31 months

Sunday 15th June
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Jurgen100 said:
I currently hold the following funds:
Legal & General US Index
iShares Core MSCI World ETF
Rathbone Global Opportunities
CT European Select
Jupiter India
What percentages of your overall holding do the five funds listed represent?

I think it's important to monitor actively-managed funds to check whether or not their higher costs represent good value for money.

For example, the Rathbone Global Opps fund has outperformed its index, but not consistently (according to Trustnet data). In fact, if you bought it five years ago, you'd have been better off buying a global tracker such as HSBC FTSE All World Index instead.



Unfortunately, the situation for CT European Select is much worse.



xeny

5,303 posts

97 months

Sunday 15th June
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C69 said:
What percentages of your overall holding do the five funds listed represent?

I think it's important to monitor actively-managed funds to check whether or not their higher costs represent good value for money.

For example, the Rathbone Global Opps fund has outperformed its index, but not consistently (according to Trustnet data). In fact, if you bought it five years ago, you'd have been better off buying a global tracker such as HSBC FTSE All World Index instead.



Unfortunately, the situation for CT European Select is much worse.

This nicely leads into what I was going to post. By default, buy a global tracker. If you have strong convictions, consider "leaning" the portfolio in that direction by also buying a little of something else, but picking and choosing tends to take time which is often poorly rewarded.

Jurgen100

Original Poster:

147 posts

55 months

Sunday 15th June
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xeny said:
This nicely leads into what I was going to post. By default, buy a global tracker. If you have strong convictions, consider "leaning" the portfolio in that direction by also buying a little of something else, but picking and choosing tends to take time which is often poorly rewarded.
I already hold iShares Core MSCI World ETF which seems to tick the global tracker box. I could load that?

mikeiow

7,375 posts

149 months

Monday 16th June
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Jurgen100 said:
xeny said:
This nicely leads into what I was going to post. By default, buy a global tracker. If you have strong convictions, consider "leaning" the portfolio in that direction by also buying a little of something else, but picking and choosing tends to take time which is often poorly rewarded.
I already hold iShares Core MSCI World ETF which seems to tick the global tracker box. I could load that?
If you believe in the approach espoused by Lars (https://kroijer.com), you absolutely would do that.
Worth taking 30 mins (less if you speed up!) to have a list to his videos, I would suggest.