RE: Audi S8 (D5) | Cars to be thankful for

RE: Audi S8 (D5) | Cars to be thankful for

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Audi S8 (D5) | Cars to be thankful for

Big, expensive, heavy, old - welcome to the best new Audi you can still buy


The arrival of the Audi S8 could hardly have been better timed; I was halfway through Amazon’s four-part documentary on NASCAR legend, Dale Earnhardt. For the uninitiated, Earnhardt, with a streak of belligerence and self-righteousness almost as wide as Ayrton Senna’s, left an indelible mark on stock car racing in the ‘80s and ‘90s, amassing 76 Winston Cup victories and seven championships, before his untimely (and hugely prominent) death at the Daytona 500 in 2001. Being a good old boy from North Carolina, he would probably not have liked the S8 on spec, it being as German as a loaf of Pumpernickel baked in the shape of a Messerschmitt. But it’s hard to think of another three-box saloon currently on sale in the UK today that would better suit the self-styled Man in Black. 

On one hand, unsurprisingly, this is about hard-charging, eight-cylinder grunt. Elsewhere in Audi’s lineup, you will hardly need me to tell you, the twin-turbocharged 4.0-litre V8 is becoming conspicuous for its increasing absence. But it survives in the S8, unsullied but for the presence of a modest 48-volt starter motor, and otherwise in possession of a decidedly immodest 570hp, not to mention 590lb ft of torque from 2,050rpm - the same amount that was available to the now-defunct RS6. Allied to all-wheel drive and a predictably obliging eight-speed torque converter, the engine will have 2.2-tonnes of 5.2-metre-long limousine just beyond the national limit in 3.8 seconds, should you choose to wholly disregard the possibility of achieving 24.5mpg. 

On the other hand, there is the Intimidator factor. Earnhardt became famous (and infamous) not just for being tremendously quick and brave - though he was - but also for being hyper-aggressive in that ‘rubbing’s racing’ way that tends to result in a lot of contact. So when car No.3 loomed large in your rearview mirror, you knew what was coming. Now, perhaps this wouldn’t have seemed quite so pertinent had the S8 turned up in cloudburst grey - but in Mythos Black, on 10-spoke, 21-inch black wheels and with blacked-out badges, the message to other road users is hardly subliminal. People on the M4, wearily accustomed to Ingolstadt DRLs bearing down on them in the outside lane, could hardly get out of the way quickly enough.

Of course, most full-sized, performance-badged German luxury saloons have something of the cutthroat about them - it reflects the instincts of the paying customer, and their enthusiasm for derestricted stretches of autobahn. The original S8, the V8-powered D2, launched in 1996, was very much intended to gatecrash the BMW and Mercedes hegemony; 18 months later, it was parachuted into John Frankenheimer's Ronin, to memorable effect. The following decade, Audi parachuted its 450hp 5.2-litres V10 into the D3 - as worthy a tribute to the displacement-crazed noughties as you will find anywhere (not least because it was only the second largest petrol engine installed in that generation of A8). 

A semblance of sanity returned with the D4, the S8 receiving the 4.0-litre TFSI unit in 2012 - although its maker still saw fit to commission a ‘plus’ version in 2016, produced by Audi Sport (about as close to an RS variant as the flagship was ever likely to get) and pumped-up to 605hp. Aside from an ever-tightening regulatory noose, there is presumably nothing to prevent Audi from repeating the trick in the D5 - although were that to happen, you would almost certainly be looking at a run-out model. This generation of A8, first shown in 2017, is already on borrowed time. Its replacement, based on the new PPE platform and apparently looking a lot like the Grandsphere concept Audi presented in 2021, has been waiting in the wings for some time. 

At any rate, whatever form its successor takes it will not be a three-box saloon with a V8. That makes the S8 a car to be thankful for almost by default - much as it does everything with an eight-cylinder engine - yet it doesn’t tell the full story of an Audi super-limo finally coming good. That story comes in three parts. Firstly, you probably need to get on board with the styling, inside and out. This means embracing the idea that the S8, possibly more so in this generation than any other, looks very much like an A4 with an overactive pituitary gland. Knock the badges off it, avoid the flashier wheels, and only the glint of the quad tailpipe would prevent it from seeming nothing more than an amorphous big Audi, no more memorable than a steel-framed, glass-fronted office block. 

This is a good thing. This is the full Ronin: Q-car anonymity right up to the point it bladders past you, detonating petrol. The interior, even with the added sweetener of Cognac-coloured seats, is equally forgettable. And no less good at its job. That famed Audi fit and finish, a forerunner to Apple’s aesthetic playbook, merging function, form and glossy tactility, is manifested everywhere. When the S8 was new, the granite-faced absence of design flourish seemed like a handicap; now, the comparative datedness of its screens and layout works in its favour. You don’t feel like you’re sitting in the world’s smallest cinema, nor about to have a picnic in a millennial’s idea of a Johnny Cab. You feel like you’re there for one reason: to drive a car, in supremely refined and business-like surroundings. It is charmingly novel. 

Secondly, there is the rolling comfort, not previously considered a strength of the S8, thanks to the technical limitations of its sporty remit. This has been conquered (smothered might be a more apt description) by the inclusion of Audi’s Predictive Active Suspension, the air-sprung, camera-governed system that aims to keep occupants isolated in something like equilibrium jelly by anticipating and responding to the road ahead. The technology is neither new nor restricted to the S8 (it features in the latest Taycan and e-tron GT), yet its knack for making bewildering bump absorption seem consistent - even nonchalant - is somehow much easier to appreciate when the silicon-age chassis is powered by a resolutely old-fashioned V8. 

Probably this has something to do with expectations. You get in expecting bigness and plushness and dynamic precision, and that is what arrives. In the EVs, you try to sense the moments where the system is leaning you into fast corners or maximising its wheel travel to swallow a speed bump; in the S8, you tend to let it wash over you, unthinkingly. Even the four-wheel steering and the active rear diff - both crucial to making such a big car feel endlessly manageable at speed - seem only distantly related to the unfailing stability and corner-taking fluency of the whole. True, it will not have you on tenterhooks, nor immersed in the quality of feedback - but you're not supposed to be: you're meant to be very relaxed, very assured and probably going about 40 per cent faster than a magistrate would prefer. 

Thirdly, whether you are or not, you will definitely be wallowing in the pleasure-wake of the V8. As we've noted, the S8 has always featured charismatic engines, yet it is the continuing presence of the 4.0-litre unit - in a segment transitioning to plug-in hybrids - that ensures the D5 hallowed status. How wonderful to report that this is clearly by design: the car starts up with an augmented growl, and very rarely does it release a hold on your imagination. Most fast Audis aim for a ruthlessly energetic turn of speed from step-off, but the enormous in-gear performance is something else. It treads the line between cooly understated and appropriately mischievous very well, like a muscle car that’s been wrapped in throw rugs. Time and again, without wanting for a drive mode beyond ‘auto’, the powertrain persuades you to take giant, greedy liberties with it - not just because the accompanying gizmos work to contain and enable the ferocity (though they do), but because the pay-off is such a conspicuous, warbly treat for the senses. 

All this in a car that, should you wish, is equally capable of playing limousine to adult-sized children or mooching anonymously and sumptuously up a high street. There are limits, eventually, to this multi-faceted talent - this isn’t the saloon you’d necessarily choose to extract every meaningful ounce of enjoyment from a B road, and its secondary ride isn’t always flawless on 21s - but if you forgive it those minor shortcomings, the S8 covers a bewildering number of bases in handsome style. As it should, you might argue, for a saloon that starts at £118,285. But no version of the A8, nor any full-size luxury saloon, is built with affordability in mind; they are all about world-conquering supremacy, much as Earnhardt was in his pomp. No previous S8 wholly lived up to that reputation. This one does. 


SPECIFICATION | AUDI S8 (D5) 

Engine: 3,993cc, V8, twin-turbocharged, plus starter generator
Transmission: 8-speed auto, all-wheel drive
Power (hp): 571@6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 590@2,050-4,500rpm
0-62mph: 3.8sec
Top speed: 155mph (limited)
Weight: 2,220kg (unladen)
MPG: 24.5 (WLTP)
CO2: 260 (WLTP)
Price: £121,930 as tested

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someoneelse

Original Poster:

92 posts

196 months

Love these! And had no idea they were still making them. I can imagine the twin turbo V8 is a lot better suited to them than the V10 - which always felt very lacking in low down grunt in my S6.

Got very excited seeing a W12 one stuck in traffic yesterday, and then had to explain why to my baffled companions.

JonPH

59 posts

72 months

Great machine.

Can’t get on with the all black spec that Audi thinks is needed for the U.K., versus continent.

Given what’s happened to the M5, I’m now seriously considering an RS6 or one of these for the next decade.

Discombobulate

5,541 posts

200 months

Perhaps it's my hangover, or the sub-editor in me, but this is a difficult read. Reminds me of a critique of The Hobbit film: Peter Jackson has managed to cram two hours into three.

Cool car in the right spec.

AC43

12,600 posts

222 months

JonPH said:
Can t get on with the all black spec that Audi thinks is needed for the U.K., versus continent.

That's so black its not true. I don't get the "style".

Great write up though.

SDK

1,638 posts

267 months

JonPH said:
Great machine.

Can t get on with the all black spec that Audi thinks is needed for the U.K., versus continent.
I was thinking exactly the same.

Did they have a surplus stock of Piano black inlays - that’s way too much in the interior.
I looked up the car on the Audi configurator and you can’t even spec a different material - you’re stuck with it.

Also, they have 3x black exterior colour options.


foxhounduk

562 posts

194 months

Now that’s a machine. Business and pleasure in one. Superb V8. They say it’s application in the S8 is better than in the RS6…

andrewpandrew

422 posts

3 months

It’s a shame each iteration seems to have got gradually worse looking since the D2.

BlackTails

1,380 posts

69 months

Audi seems to struggle to make this a good looking car. The rear end is ok. The profile is ok-ish, though it shows up the overhangs. The front end just doesn’t work. Ant put my finger on precisely why. Part of it may be that the roofline is too high - the head on shot shows a lot of windscreen for not much front end body.

I know the idea of a Q car is to look anonymous, but there is anonymous and there is bland.

fantheman80

1,935 posts

63 months

Larry, Can you Tell Vincent what it is you need”? Larry: “Something very fast. Audi S8. Something that can shove a little bit. I’m also gonna need a nitrous system.”

Larry obviously knew it was a bit of a fatty hence the nitrous

yme402

520 posts

116 months

Must be close to taking the honours for the car with the most savage depreciation in its first year?

biggbn

26,952 posts

234 months

This fits the fast executive bruiser brief perfectly. For me, much more desirable than the other German offerings
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Baddie

715 posts

231 months

Enjoyed the write up, thanks.

If I had the readies I’d love one of these to keep going as long as possible. Not many classic saloons left.

Gecko1978

11,261 posts

171 months

If you have the funds an don't care about depreciation then it's likely a great buy each drive like being part of ronin.

Newbie2023

301 posts

24 months

I know that these are very decent but I think that RS3, in saloon form, would still give it a run for it's money as being the best new Audi that you can buy.

Firebobby

813 posts

53 months

Absolutely brilliant. I'd never dream of owning one but so glad they still make them. It's "V" to the EV trollers.

ZX10R NIN

29,101 posts

139 months

A car that has nigh on RS power without advertising it.

Huzzah

27,995 posts

197 months

Newbie2023 said:
I know that these are very decent but I think that RS3, in saloon form, would still give it a run for it's money as being the best new Audi that you can buy.


However many option boxes you tick in the lesser model, you'll never replicate the feel.

Hereandthere

124 posts

63 months

It is a shame they don't do a 2 door coupe version of this and allow clear glass in the back windows. The RS7 looks ungainly, and again has 4 doors, and the R8 I have, though lovely, has very little boot space.

Newbie2023

301 posts

24 months

Huzzah said:


However many option boxes you tick in the lesser model, you'll never replicate the feel.
The RS3 wasn't suggested because of any desire to imitate it's larger stablemate, I just think that in isolation it is a very good car. I like the size, the 5 cylinder engine and the fact that Audi actually put some effort in to it's driving dynamics. Both cars being saloons is more coincidental than anything else, I could have identified the sportback version instead but I just prefer one over the other. The quality of the 8's interior is obviously a step up but it's not like the 3 is a shed.

The Pistonsdead

5,155 posts

221 months

AC43 said:
JonPH said:
Can t get on with the all black spec that Audi thinks is needed for the U.K., versus continent.

That's so black its not true. I don't get the "style".

Great write up though.
Agreed, it's just well...Black !!!!