BMW Extended Warranty - claims over 100k miles, experiences?
BMW Extended Warranty - claims over 100k miles, experiences?
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Recalcitrant

Original Poster:

47 posts

41 months

Monday 16th June
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Hi,

Most of us know the BMW warranty is excellent, but wear and tear items are excluded above 100k miles.

Have many of you made claims above this mileage under the comprehensive warranty?

Just interested in experiences, I know you can argue most things are wear and tear, but my gut feeling is they'll be pretty fair.

wax lyrical

987 posts

257 months

Thursday 3rd July
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I had a 2008 335i (E93) until a couple of years ago and it had the BMW insured warranty on it from the start. When I sold it, I had done 223k miles. There were several warranty claims (non wear and tear) after 100k and no issues at all (like water pump, electric boot closure, couple of other things that I forget now).

So in my experience, it's an excellent warranty. smile Just pay monthly and keep it going.


Recalcitrant said:
Hi,

Most of us know the BMW warranty is excellent, but wear and tear items are excluded above 100k miles.

Have many of you made claims above this mileage under the comprehensive warranty?

Just interested in experiences, I know you can argue most things are wear and tear, but my gut feeling is they'll be pretty fair.
Edited by wax lyrical on Thursday 3rd July 20:40

Tony B2

701 posts

191 months

Sunday 6th July
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My experience (as of this week, and also earlier this year) is far less positive.

I have had my E92 M3 from new (2011) and it has now covered 51k miles, so well within the 100k mark.

Immaculate service history, all at main dealers.

I have the Comprehensive level of cover (in place since the 3rd birthday) and it is very obvious that Allianz are becoming more and more difficult to deal with and get a successful claim passed.

The existing warranty policy document contradicts itself in the 2 paragraphs which refer to "wear and tear", with the second paragraph listing 19 reasons not to honour this commitment.

I have a formal complaint in place - and even the process for raising this is remarkably flawed.

I am awaiting the outcome - I expect a rejection, but then I will be going to the FS Ombudsman (it is an insurance policy so falls within that remit).

It has not always been this way - up until about 3 years ago everything seemed fine, but clearly there has been a change of attitude of late.

Perhaps they have deduced from my annual mileage, that they have a risk which they are no longer prepared to accept.

darreni

4,211 posts

286 months

Sunday 6th July
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I've found that its often the dealers that are the problem.

A couple of years ago my 108k mile CSL developed a clutch issue - a loud tapping after changing gear. I had the car recovered to a local main dealer who subsequently diagnosed the clutch as needing replacement due to wear, adding that its a consumable item.

I'd not experienced any slipping or performance issues and asked for more information regarding the wear. The dealer then said a number of the fingers on the plate had snapped off, but as a clutch is a consumable, it would not be covered under warranty. And its 2.3k to replace please.
Despite my protestations that snapped fingers was a component failure rather than wear, they were adamant warranty was a no go.

I contacted Allianz directly and discussed with one of the claims managers (an ex technician). He said he had not received any contact from the dealer regarding the potential claim.
He also agreed that failure would be covered and said he would contact the dealer for detailed pictures.

I received a call from the dealer an hour later confirming the the warranty would cover the failure and replacement in full.

It turned out that the dealers in house warranty manager had made the decision that as a clutch is classed as a consumable, warranty would be denied and therefore no reason to contact Allianz to put forward a claim.

Always worth contacting Allianz yourself, i've always forund them to be very fair.



smashy

3,097 posts

174 months

Sunday 6th July
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darreni said:
I've found that its often the dealers that are the problem.

A couple of years ago my 108k mile CSL developed a clutch issue - a loud tapping after changing gear. I had the car recovered to a local main dealer who subsequently diagnosed the clutch as needing replacement due to wear, adding that its a consumable item.

I'd not experienced any slipping or performance issues and asked for more information regarding the wear. The dealer then said a number of the fingers on the plate had snapped off, but as a clutch is a consumable, it would not be covered under warranty. And its 2.3k to replace please.
Despite my protestations that snapped fingers was a component failure rather than wear, they were adamant warranty was a no go.

I contacted Allianz directly and discussed with one of the claims managers (an ex technician). He said he had not received any contact from the dealer regarding the potential claim.
He also agreed that failure would be covered and said he would contact the dealer for detailed pictures.

I received a call from the dealer an hour later confirming the the warranty would cover the failure and replacement in full.

It turned out that the dealers in house warranty manager had made the decision that as a clutch is classed as a consumable, warranty would be denied and therefore no reason to contact Allianz to put forward a claim.

Always worth contacting Allianz yourself, i've always forund them to be very fair.
That is intersting re contacting allianz direct.I have a burning oil issue on my 335d uses a ltr oil every 3k miles.It has been in to 2 BMW dealers total 5 times. They have changed parts but no difference. They say that next step is to take Turbo apart but if no issue then I have to pay for that work ,he put it at £2500.00.

darreni

4,211 posts

286 months

Sunday 6th July
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I guess it really depends if it can be proved to be component failure.

Oil useage is a tricky one given manufacturers have a very broad range of acceptable useage.

bmwmike

7,879 posts

124 months

Monday 7th July
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darreni said:
I've found that its often the dealers that are the problem.

A couple of years ago my 108k mile CSL developed a clutch issue - a loud tapping after changing gear. I had the car recovered to a local main dealer who subsequently diagnosed the clutch as needing replacement due to wear, adding that its a consumable item.

I'd not experienced any slipping or performance issues and asked for more information regarding the wear. The dealer then said a number of the fingers on the plate had snapped off, but as a clutch is a consumable, it would not be covered under warranty. And its 2.3k to replace please.
Despite my protestations that snapped fingers was a component failure rather than wear, they were adamant warranty was a no go.

I contacted Allianz directly and discussed with one of the claims managers (an ex technician). He said he had not received any contact from the dealer regarding the potential claim.
He also agreed that failure would be covered and said he would contact the dealer for detailed pictures.

I received a call from the dealer an hour later confirming the the warranty would cover the failure and replacement in full.

It turned out that the dealers in house warranty manager had made the decision that as a clutch is classed as a consumable, warranty would be denied and therefore no reason to contact Allianz to put forward a claim.

Always worth contacting Allianz yourself, i've always forund them to be very fair.
I had a very similar experience to you. Dealer refused to put through as warranty claim, contacted Allianz, and they agreed. The difference to the dealer is that the hourly rate for warranty claims is far lower than retail iirc. So they prefer punters to pony up their own pounds rather than warranty. In the end i'd contact Allianz first then go to the dealer and hit them with "yeah but... " when they suggest its not a warranty issue.


Riggie

181 posts

141 months

Yesterday (22:22)
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bmwmike said:
I had a very similar experience to you. Dealer refused to put through as warranty claim, contacted Allianz, and they agreed. The difference to the dealer is that the hourly rate for warranty claims is far lower than retail iirc. So they prefer punters to pony up their own pounds rather than warranty. In the end i'd contact Allianz first then go to the dealer and hit them with "yeah but... " when they suggest its not a warranty issue.
During a recent dispute with my local dealership after a warranty refusal, I raised this issue with the service manager. He categorically denied that warranty labour rates are less than those paid by private customers. I don't think I believe him.

itcaptainslow

4,147 posts

152 months

Yesterday (22:49)
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Riggie said:
bmwmike said:
I had a very similar experience to you. Dealer refused to put through as warranty claim, contacted Allianz, and they agreed. The difference to the dealer is that the hourly rate for warranty claims is far lower than retail iirc. So they prefer punters to pony up their own pounds rather than warranty. In the end i'd contact Allianz first then go to the dealer and hit them with "yeah but... " when they suggest its not a warranty issue.
During a recent dispute with my local dealership after a warranty refusal, I raised this issue with the service manager. He categorically denied that warranty labour rates are less than those paid by private customers. I don't think I believe him.
I'd be very surprised if any warranty, be it manufacturer, approved used or otherwise, paid retail labour rates. I was a SM for a French marque franchise in a previous life (12 years ago) and the manufacturer warranty labour rate was around 25% lower than our retail rate, same for approved used.

darreni

4,211 posts

286 months

Yesterday (22:52)
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Yes, there is no way the warranty company will be paying the same rate as a retail customer.

JJ77

369 posts

64 months

Hi, I can get my 2003 M3 E46 quoted BMW warranty as mileage is only 35000. It’s coming out fully comp at 130 per month. It’s a manual not SMG, just wondering if there are any larger items that would make paying 1500 per year worth it. Also, before paying online it’s says confirm the maintenance history has followed manufacturers guidelines, there are yearly gaps in mine, I would imagine most cars also, and even though the car has full main dealer and great indies such as Hero Motor Co and Everything M3’s I’m concerned that I pay and when claiming they throw it out because it has not had a main dealer history every year since 2003! Do BMW, like Ferrari & Porsche ask you to come in for a PPi, before accepting it for warranty? Or gaps in yearly maintenance don’t matter when claiming, once you have your agreement and are paying? Advise appreciated.

darreni

4,211 posts

286 months

Servicing is every 2 years or 15k miles.

JJ77

369 posts

64 months

So you have to service it every 2 years for warranty claims to be valid? So a gap between 2009 to 2013, and 2016 to 2019, even though mileage was 5000 total would ban me from BMW warranty even though they have quoted me?

edthefed

799 posts

83 months

JJ77 said:
So you have to service it every 2 years for warranty claims to be valid? So a gap between 2009 to 2013, and 2016 to 2019, even though mileage was 5000 total would ban me from BMW warranty even though they have quoted me?
Has to be serviced in line with the manufacturers stated intervals

On modern BMWs that tends to be 2 years or 19000 miles whichever comes first.

On older cars it was 1 year 10 / 12000 miles whichever comes first

So 3 and 4 year gaps would not be acceptable

darreni

4,211 posts

286 months

JJ77 said:
So you have to service it every 2 years for warranty claims to be valid? So a gap between 2009 to 2013, and 2016 to 2019, even though mileage was 5000 total would ban me from BMW warranty even though they have quoted me?
Why not ring and ask?

sortedcossie

798 posts

144 months

I think you'd struggle with those gaps if you needed to claim.

JJ77

369 posts

64 months

Thanks that’s what I needed to know. Think it’s a bad system, go online put in reg number and mileage then they quote you annually or monthly, voluntary excess and pay now. You drive round thinking you have comprehensive cover until something goes wrong and told car not valid for Warranty. Much prefer the Ferrari or Porsche system, come in for PPi, or service and they inspect it and say you good to pay online…