Capacitive steering wheel buttons

Capacitive steering wheel buttons

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Ham_and_Jam

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111 months

Tuesday 17th June
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A little rant.

Who the hell thought it was a good idea to put capacitive buttons on a steering wheel.

I’ve had my Mercedes E Class for 2 months now and they’re driving me nuts. 24 little buttons of pure annoyance to be exact.

No matter how hard I try, I change the radio, volume or menu on every single trip. Then spend several more button presses trying to figure out what the hell I actually accidentally pressed.

Don’t get me wrong, buttons on a steering wheel are OK, last car had several, but you had to physically press them. This just requires the slightest of wafts from a finger.

Not sure how to reduce the problem, at least with the annoying ADAS systems you can turn them off. How do you stop these from activating at the slightest brush of a digit?


Rat_Fink_67

2,714 posts

220 months

Tuesday 17th June
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Ham_and_Jam said:
A little rant.

Who the hell thought it was a good idea to put capacitive buttons on a steering wheel.

I ve had my Mercedes E Class for 2 months now and they re driving me nuts. 24 little buttons of pure annoyance to be exact.

No matter how hard I try, I change the radio, volume or menu on every single trip. Then spend several more button presses trying to figure out what the hell I actually accidentally pressed.

Don t get me wrong, buttons on a steering wheel are OK, last car had several, but you had to physically press them. This just requires the slightest of wafts from a finger.

Not sure how to reduce the problem, at least with the annoying ADAS systems you can turn them off. How do you stop these from activating at the slightest brush of a digit?
I've got the same steering wheel and found it a similar nuisance. To be honest though, you just kind of get used to it.

Ham_and_Jam

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Tuesday 17th June
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This one with the double row of buttons?

No matter how I adapt, I just keep catching the top right buttons.

Watcher of the skies

828 posts

51 months

Tuesday 17th June
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,124 posts

249 months

Tuesday 17th June
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Life can be really tricky can't it? hehe

Ham_and_Jam

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Tuesday 17th June
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Life can be really tricky can't it? hehe
Like a I said, a little rant to make me feel better biglaugh

Ham_and_Jam

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Watcher of the skies said:
I ve already used a fist version of that on the steering wheel.

MikeM6

5,502 posts

116 months

Tuesday 17th June
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Ham_and_Jam said:


This one with the double row of buttons?

No matter how I adapt, I just keep catching the top right buttons.
I've had to use yet terrible wheel recently.... I had a GLiB200 and it baffled me how anyone thought the haptic 'slider' was a good idea for the cruise control or volume. They are so imprecise it was silly.

It's a huge step backwards for the sake of progress, but I'm sure they will disappear soon.

Watcher of the skies

828 posts

51 months

Tuesday 17th June
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You'd think that they test this stuff before they sign off for production...

GeniusOfLove

3,542 posts

26 months

Tuesday 17th June
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MikeM6 said:
It's a huge step backwards for the sake of progress, but I'm sure they will disappear soon.
It's cheaper, that's the driving force I am sure. A lot of cars are having a lot of cost stripped out of them that most customers don't notice or care about but I think these dreadful controls are a step too far.

Doesn't help that the wheel looks st too.

Ham_and_Jam

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GeniusOfLove said:
It's cheaper, that's the driving force I am sure. A lot of cars are having a lot of cost stripped out of them that most customers don't notice or care about but I think these dreadful controls are a step too far.

Doesn't help that the wheel looks st too.
I don’t mind the look of it, no more offensive than most of my previous steering wheels, but the implementation of the buttons is woeful.

Pica-Pica

15,166 posts

98 months

Tuesday 17th June
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GeniusOfLove said:
MikeM6 said:
It's a huge step backwards for the sake of progress, but I'm sure they will disappear soon.
It's cheaper, that's the driving force I am sure. A lot of cars are having a lot of cost stripped out of them that most customers don't notice or care about but I think these dreadful controls are a step too far.

Doesn't help that the wheel looks st too.
Agreed. ‘Neither use nor ornament’ as my grandparents would say.

MattyD803

1,976 posts

79 months

Tuesday 17th June
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I had a Cupra Born for 2 days as a courtesy car whilst my Formentor (with identically positioned, but physical buttons) was in for service/recall work and the haptic buttons drove me mad.

Yes, I am sure you would 'get used to it' but blimey, it was hugely frustrating. I was changing the volume and radio station at nearly every turn of the wheel.

SkodaIan

852 posts

99 months

Tuesday 17th June
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What you need is some nice Alan Partridge driving gloves...

Most gloves don't operate capacitive touchscreens so presumably wouldn't work with these stupid steering wheel buttons either.

Alternatively drive with your hands in the wrong position on the wheel the whole time like the development testers must have done for this abomination to have reached production.


Ham_and_Jam

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Tuesday 17th June
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SkodaIan said:
What you need is some nice Alan Partridge driving gloves...

Most gloves don't operate capacitive touchscreens so presumably wouldn't work with these stupid steering wheel buttons either.

Alternatively drive with your hands in the wrong position on the wheel the whole time like the development testers must have done for this abomination to have reached production.
I’m seriously thinking about covering the most caught button with something, maybe a bit of black tape.

I don’t change the use of that button, so don’t need it once set.

Ham_and_Jam

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Tuesday 17th June
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SkodaIan said:
What you need is some nice Alan Partridge driving gloves...

Most gloves don't operate capacitive touchscreens so presumably wouldn't work with these stupid steering wheel buttons either.
Doesn’t work. Just tried covering the button (slider) with insulation tape, didn’t work. Micro fibre cloth, didn’t work. Card, didn’t work.

Finally stopped it detecting the presence of a finger and altering the settings with some thick microfiber cloth folded 4 layers thick, was probably about 1cm deep, and looked stupid and would catch when turning.

Very surprised its able to detect so far through insulating materials.

Back to the drawing board…

Krikkit

27,402 posts

195 months

Tuesday 17th June
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Ham_and_Jam said:
Doesn t work. Just tried covering the button (slider) with insulation tape, didn t work. Micro fibre cloth, didn t work. Card, didn t work.

Finally stopped it detecting the presence of a finger and altering the settings with some thick microfiber cloth folded 4 layers thick, was probably about 1cm deep, and looked stupid and would catch when turning.

Very surprised its able to detect so far through insulating materials.

Back to the drawing board
Try something electrically conductive, like that foil insulation tape

craigjm

19,152 posts

214 months

Tuesday 17th June
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There are far too many controls on the wheels these days. Audio volume and track and phone controls great and in addition cruise control but anything else really shouldn’t be there

troc

3,984 posts

189 months

Tuesday 17th June
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If you ask the manufacturers, they will tell you that you are supposed to be using the voice interface













because that s so much less infuriating!

TheDrownedApe

1,383 posts

70 months

Tuesday 17th June
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Urrgghh. Hated these in my id3 and the one reason I won't ever buy a car with these fitted.