EV comes with no AC Charger Type 2

EV comes with no AC Charger Type 2

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Abc321

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772 posts

110 months

Tuesday
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Bought a used car from dealer last week and upon getting home, noticed there is no Charging Cable.

There is the 3 pin plug and commando/industrial plug but no Type 2.

What are my rights / recommended process? I have asked for one to be sent to us. My thoughts are this is an essential part of the car. It is a major UK dealer and bought less than 7 days ago so just wondered what law states with regards returning car, etc. (They have been a pain from the start to be honest).

Unsure if this should be here or Plod and Law, mods move if required please.

TIA.

Cylon2007

574 posts

93 months

Tuesday
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Did you not check before completing the purchase?
It's a 2nd hand car the previous owner probably forgot to put it in the car, just buy a new one and get on with your life.

Dimebars

960 posts

109 months

Tuesday
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You want to return the car because it doesn't have a cable, and the supplier hasn't yet told you whether they'll supply one or not?


Evanivitch

24,152 posts

137 months

Tuesday
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It's not a major part of the car, no. It's an accessory.

Many, not all including my own, home chargers are tethered and away from home typically you'd use a rapid. Some destination chargers at hotels are tethered, many you would need your own cable.

It's something you can buy from screwfix, or sometimes on marketplace (I bought a 10m Type 1 cable many years ago, then had reconfigured to type 2 when I changed car).

https://www.screwfix.com/p/masterplug-32a-7kw-mode...

paul_c123

781 posts

8 months

Tuesday
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It doesn't matter how soon AFTER the purchase, the right time to check if it comes with these is actually BEFORE the purchase. What does it say on the advert listing or the pictures?

Martyn76

758 posts

132 months

Tuesday
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When we bought our Tesla last year it came with a granny charger but no type 2 cable, there's plenty out there to choose from.

Theoldguard

889 posts

73 months

Tuesday
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When our lease car was collected last week on the check list was the type 2 cable, so yes it is part of the car. They were not concerned about the 3 pin granny only the type 2.

For an electric car I would say it's an essential piece of kit and no doubt the other way around the garage would be all over it trying to knock you down due to a missing cable.

Evanivitch

24,152 posts

137 months

Tuesday
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Theoldguard said:
When our lease car was collected last week on the check list was the type 2 cable, so yes it is part of the car. They were not concerned about the 3 pin granny only the type 2.

For an electric car I would say it's an essential piece of kit and no doubt the other way around the garage would be all over it trying to knock you down due to a missing cable.
That doesn't make it essential. It's an accessory.

Ezra

753 posts

42 months

Tuesday
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I think I'd just suck it up, learn from it and buy one myself. I like to accept responsibility for what I do (or don't do) and if I didn't check the cable was there before I bought...its down to me.

66HFM

683 posts

40 months

Tuesday
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Yes, its annoying, but not the end of the world, speak to the dealer and iterate it is missing and can they supply you with a new one.
Worse case they are less than £100 to buy new.

When I had our used Discovery Sport delivered I noticed that the rear parcel shelf was missing, contacted the dealer straight away and he confirmed that the previous one was damaged and he ordered me a new one to be delivered straight to my home.

Speak to them politely and they'll hopefully sort you out with one, they should also be able to get them at trade rather than retail prices.

119

11,692 posts

51 months

Tuesday
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Abc321 said:
Bought a used car from dealer last week and upon getting home, noticed there is no Charging Cable.

There is the 3 pin plug and commando/industrial plug but no Type 2.

What are my rights / recommended process? I have asked for one to be sent to us. My thoughts are this is an essential part of the car. It is a major UK dealer and bought less than 7 days ago so just wondered what law states with regards returning car, etc. (They have been a pain from the start to be honest).

Unsure if this should be here or Plod and Law, mods move if required please.

TIA.
Bit extreme to want to return the car surely?

Theoldguard

889 posts

73 months

Tuesday
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Evanivitch said:
That doesn't make it essential. It's an accessory.
The point being when the car was delivered there was a granny charger, and type 2 in the boot...there was a tyre repair kit, there was an umbrella, there were mats, there was a storage cord for the boot, there were locking wheel nuts etc etc.

Not all those listed above were checked or requested to be there when the car was collected, the ones that were included the repair kit, locking nuts, type 2 cable, the others they were not interested in. I guess they see them as essential or required when the vehicle is passed on at auction, the charge for a missing cable is around £400 far greater than most other items.

Evanivitch

24,152 posts

137 months

Tuesday
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Theoldguard said:
The point being when the car was delivered there was a granny charger, and type 2 in the boot...there was a tyre repair kit, there was an umbrella, there were mats, there was a storage cord for the boot, there were locking wheel nuts etc etc.

Not all those listed above were checked or requested to be there when the car was collected, the ones that were included the repair kit, locking nuts, type 2 cable, the others they were not interested in. I guess they see them as essential or required when the vehicle is passed on at auction, the charge for a missing cable is around £400 far greater than most other items.
Who's charging £400 for a charge cable?

98elise

29,695 posts

176 months

Tuesday
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Theoldguard said:
Evanivitch said:
That doesn't make it essential. It's an accessory.
The point being when the car was delivered there was a granny charger, and type 2 in the boot...there was a tyre repair kit, there was an umbrella, there were mats, there was a storage cord for the boot, there were locking wheel nuts etc etc.

Not all those listed above were checked or requested to be there when the car was collected, the ones that were included the repair kit, locking nuts, type 2 cable, the others they were not interested in. I guess they see them as essential or required when the vehicle is passed on at auction, the charge for a missing cable is around £400 far greater than most other items.
Its up to them what they want to check on return as its their car. If they chose to check the car mats it wouldn't make them essential.

If you buy a car without an accessory thats up to you. Its annoying if you assumed one would be there but it doesn't stop you using it. I'd class it as finding your car has a can of spray glue when you though it would come with a spare tyre.

98elise

29,695 posts

176 months

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Mark V GTD said:
My brand new (2022) VW id3 didn't come with any kind of charging cable - the dealer apologised and said VW don't supply them free with the cars anymore. I never purchased one and just used the tethered public chargers.
Wow. I'd expect at least a granny charger on a new car.

Abc321

Original Poster:

772 posts

110 months

Tuesday
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Differing views then.

As mentioned, it’s been painful from the start with these lot and frankly I think they’re taking the p**s. They are a huge dealer which I would have named already but PH rules…

My first course of action was obviously asking them to buy a new one but on the reply of them saying no (which I very much assume they will), I am wondering what the procedure is.

I don’t think an umbrella and a charger for the car are the same. It’s very much more the principle at this stage on top of the other issues we’ve had with it.

Thanks though for some helpful (and some unhelpful) replies!

Mark V GTD

2,645 posts

139 months

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98elise said:
Wow. I'd expect at least a granny charger on a new car.
Apologies - poor memory - it was a spare wheel or any kind of tyre pump that was missing. A 6m type 2 cable was in fact supplied. Sorry for wasting thread space!

Theoldguard

889 posts

73 months

Tuesday
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Evanivitch said:
Who's charging £400 for a charge cable?
An official Hyundai charger cable was listed as £385, like anything there are the manufacturer ones that cost far more than aftermarket types, so I guess if its missing they quote the cost to replace it like for like.

Theoldguard

889 posts

73 months

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98elise said:
Its up to them what they want to check on return as its their car. If they chose to check the car mats it wouldn't make them essential.

If you buy a car without an accessory thats up to you. Its annoying if you assumed one would be there but it doesn't stop you using it. I'd class it as finding your car has a can of spray glue when you though it would come with a spare tyre.
On a full EV a charging cable should be there, without it your reliant on tethered chargers that are not always available, say you pick this vehicle up drive it home out into the country and all you have nearby and at home is a charger point without tethered cables, your basically stuffed, it's a key part of the vehicle hence why all new EVs come with them.

Spare tyre

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145 months

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They pop up really cheap on local market place gumtre Facebook etc

Get a decent length, a lot longer than you think you’ll need