Tarmac upto boundary neighbours wall

[Leon525]

Recently bought a little Mk Indy kit car, I have a single lane drive long enough for 3 cars but it s abit first world problems having to move 2 cars up the road and out the way to get the Mk Indy out the garage.

My drive is much wider and wide enough to park cars side by side if it was all tarmac instead of a single drive and the stones either side. I plan to tarmac the stone areas to give the room needed.

I ve asked a few block pavers etc and have yet to get a definitive answer as to whether or not I can tarmac right upto my neighbours wall.

I believe I can aslong as the tarmac is 150mm below the DPC of the house and obviously inside my own boundary which of course it is. They do have electrical boxes on the wall which I have to grant them access to but beside that it s my property.

Edited by Leon525 on Tuesday 1st July 18:14

[paul_c123]

If its at the front of the house, you can't tarmac it - unless its permeable tarmac.

[Leon525]

It’s side of house.

[andburg]

another option would be to replace the gravel with resin bound or even to remove the gravel, fit gravel grids and then sweep it back in

[speedyman]

You may need to install a drainage channel to a drain so surface water has somewhere to go.

[John D.]

Just park on the gravel.

[Leon525]

speedyman said:

You may need to install a drainage channel to a drain so surface water has somewhere to go.

We are at the bottom of the hill so the water will run to us if anything they’re considerably higher than us.

[Leon525]

John D. said:

Just park on the gravel.

Looks untidy

[Leon525]

andburg said:

another option would be to replace the gravel with resin bound or even to remove the gravel, fit gravel grids and then sweep it back in

You could be onto something there. Thank you.

[MustangGT]

If the drain runs under there you may need utilities permission.

[speedking31]

Are those covers rated for vehicles, or just pedestrians?

[Ian Geary]

paul_c123 said:

If its at the front of the house, you can't tarmac it - unless its permeable tarmac.

My understanding (albeit a few years ago now) is that the suds regulations don't allow impermeable covering unless there is surface drainage to somewhere within the property.

A quick Google will give details, but it isn't an absolute "no".

(And many "contractors" just seem to loosely fit drainage channel that isn't even connected to anything anyway - the whole thing seems a joke)


Agree about the covers, but they're quite easy to upgrade (edit: the base/ surround might need upgrading too - not just the plastic "cover"). See if the covers have weight codes on them, like A15, B125 etc)

I would have thought building over shared utilities (ie sewers) would need permission but not just changing the landscaping around them....they remain as accessible as before.

I always found www.pavingexpert.com an excellent place for advice when doing jobs like this.


Hth

Edited by Ian Geary on Wednesday 2nd July 07:24

[alscar]

Given the drainage covers and potential water run off issues once tarmac down I’d be tempted to leave as is.
Looks quite neat as it is.
Yes a bore if jacking a car but sounds like that wouldn’t be the case there.

[dhutch]

alscar said:

Given the drainage covers and potential water run off issues once tarmac down I d be tempted to leave as is.
Looks quite neat as it is.
Yes a bore if jacking a car but sounds like that wouldn t be the case there.

Can jack a car right up against a wall anyway.

What about 'permeable' block paving?

[Leon525]

Rain I can’t see causing an issue. What you can’t see by the photo is that we are at the bottom of a hill they’re considerably higher than us. I don’t want to show too much of their property to protect their privacy.

[GasEngineer]

Getting the neighbours to put their fence posts on their side of the wall rather than over your property line will give you another few inches.

[dhutch]

It all starts flowing down hill from the top though, just because you arnt going to flood doesnt mean you should roll out more impermeable paving.
Plus if using paving stones rather than tarmac is you can always lift a few if you need to.

If you are below the DPC and on your land, then personally I would probably just crack on. Assuming you have some sort of relationship with the neighbours, just mention it to them politely before work starts.

[Chrisgr31]

Leon525 said:

Rain I can t see causing an issue. What you can t see by the photo is that we are at the bottom of a hill they re considerably higher than us. I don t want to show too much of their property to protect their privacy.

The issue is more for you. If you are at the bottom of the hill where is the water that currently drains through the gravel going in the event you tarmac the gravel?

[Leon525]

Chrisgr31 said:

Leon525 said:

Rain I can t see causing an issue. What you can t see by the photo is that we are at the bottom of a hill they re considerably higher than us. I don t want to show too much of their property to protect their privacy.

The issue is more for you. If you are at the bottom of the hill where is the water that currently drains through the gravel going in the event you tarmac the gravel?

I have a drain my side.

[paul_c123]

Leon525 said:

It s side of house.

What is beyond your land? Is it another road (ie you're on the corner) or is it another building/house?

What is the area you wish to tarmac? less than 5m2?