New Tyres - MPS4S or SportContact 7?

New Tyres - MPS4S or SportContact 7?

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SkinnyPete

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1,565 posts

164 months

Tuesday
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It's time for new tyres on my 981.

The Michelin Pilot Sport 4S has been the go-to choice since 2017, but the Continental SportContact 7 is a much newer release and seems to outperform the MPS4S in most areas - plus, it’s a bit cheaper.

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Compare/SportContact-7...

Has anyone here tried the SportContact 7s yet?

Bonus question: are N-rated tyres still required to maintain the Porsche warranty?

bennno

13,794 posts

284 months

Wednesday
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The mps4s appears to be quieter, more efficient and better in the wet. So if it’s n rated why not stick with it.

Porsche oddly demand n rated tyres when doing a warranty inspection. I can’t understand why.

jackwood

2,813 posts

223 months

Wednesday
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bennno said:
The mps4s appears to be quieter, more efficient and better in the wet. So if it s n rated why not stick with it.

Porsche oddly demand n rated tyres when doing a warranty inspection. I can t understand why.
That is no longer the case. N spec tyres not required for warranty or warranty renewal now.

Discombobulate

5,558 posts

201 months

Wednesday
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SC7 is a great tyre but buyers report a firmer ride than the Michelins. Something to bear in mind if that matters to you.

Ed.Neumann

932 posts

23 months

Wednesday
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I have not tried the N rated PS4S, but the non N rated version I thought were pants.

They feel wooly, the steering is just off, the car loses that razor sharp turn in that makes it such fun to drive.

I moved the Bridgestone Potenza Sports, I was told that the steering feel comes back, which is does (90% anyway) and the rears are not as firm and noisy as the Conti Sport 7. The nosie seems fine to me. Also the Bridgestones are fabulous in the wet, which is the one area where the PS4S was very good.


But, like I said, I have not tried the N Rated PS4S, which do have a different compound, so I would only go N Rated if I was going to try the Michelin tyre.

rrroro

430 posts

170 months

Wednesday
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Evo magazine reviewed the latest Michelin Pilot Sport S 5 (I hope I remembered the name right, doesn’t quite roll off the tongue easily), and seemed to rate it quite highly for wet and also dry performance. I’d be looking at that tyre too if I ever decided to switch from the Cup 2

Gio G

2,989 posts

224 months

Wednesday
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I have always gone MPS4S and also found them to last quite long for road tyres. I think Michelin have a cash back offer at the moment..

G

SkinnyPete

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1,565 posts

164 months

Yesterday (08:28)
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Thanks for the replies so far.

I've had multiple sets of PS4S and while I don't have a problem with them as such, they are older and more expensive than the SportContact 7.

Not really bothered about longetivity or ride comfort. Will post an update on how I get on.

jackwood said:
bennno said:
The mps4s appears to be quieter, more efficient and better in the wet. So if it s n rated why not stick with it.

Porsche oddly demand n rated tyres when doing a warranty inspection. I can t understand why.
That is no longer the case. N spec tyres not required for warranty or warranty renewal now.
I have heard a few people say this, but have yet to find anything official from Porsche.

Do you have a sourcce for this?

Crudeoink

1,065 posts

74 months

Yesterday (08:40)
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SkinnyPete said:
I have heard a few people say this, but have yet to find anything official from Porsche.

Do you have a sourcce for this?
I've used the SC7 and rate them over the MPS4S. Found them to have better turn in and more feedback. Road noise difference was about the same and they were maybe a bit stiffer than the MPS4S but neglible really. I haven't tried the 5S yet but I guess it is probably better than the 4. Wear was slightly worse on the SC7 but they saw more abuse, make of that what you will!

Voodoo Blue

985 posts

160 months

Yesterday (12:08)
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I tend to buy my tyres from Costco and last year had a new set of PS4s put on the back of the Boxster. When I turned up at my local branch the fitter went to check that the tyres I'd ordered were N rated as he said they won't fit non N rated to a Porsche if it's still under warranty, which mine was.

Apparently they've had a couple of instances of customers returning to get the tyres changed because the no N rated tyres they'd had fitted voided the warranty. I assume this was for the extended warranty but didn't enquire further since I'd already avoided that scenario.


SkinnyPete

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1,565 posts

164 months

Yesterday (12:11)
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My understanding is if the warranty is already in place then it will remain valid.

In my case my car is so old it won’t be an issue either way.

Royal Jelly

3,816 posts

213 months

Yesterday (12:16)
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Just put a set of PS4S on my 981 after all the hype, but I’m frankly a little underwhelmed.

I think the outright grip is very good, and in the wet they’re better than my P-Zero (N1), but as someone else mentioned, the turn-in is nowhere near as sharp.

As Cayman handling is all about the first half of a corner, I definitely feel like I have sold the car short.

I’ll get a new geo done which may help to a degree, but I personally wouldn’t recommend them.

Ed.Neumann

932 posts

23 months

Yesterday (12:45)
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Royal Jelly said:
Just put a set of PS4S on my 981 after all the hype, but I m frankly a little underwhelmed.

I think the outright grip is very good, and in the wet they re better than my P-Zero (N1), but as someone else mentioned, the turn-in is nowhere near as sharp.

As Cayman handling is all about the first half of a corner, I definitely feel like I have sold the car short.

I ll get a new geo done which may help to a degree, but I personally wouldn t recommend them.
Don't bother getting another geo done, the steering feel on the Michelins is just rubbish and no amount of geo can dial it out.

Well, by the time it does the car just feels like it is on ice. (Being a bit extreme here, but hope you get what I am getting at?).



These are sports cars, they have amazing mechanical grip no matter what tyre (if we are sticking with the main players) and I simply don't get why so many people praise the PS4S tyres in Porsches.
The loss in steering feel, that razor sharp off centre turn in is completely gone. Sure they may last a bit longer, they may corner at 3.2G instead of 3.1G, but the car now feels more like a Golf or something.

I dumped mine after 1000 miles, considering I am paying £700 a year in road tax, £600 in insurance, £80 every fortnight in fuel, I just decided to bit the bullet and swap them out.

To be fair I got £450 for them used and think I paid around £620 new, so it wasn't that bad.

But I just didn't want 2 years of the car feeling so numb when it had felt so good up until then.



SkinnyPete

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1,565 posts

164 months

Yesterday (20:13)
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Interesting take.

I’ve never really had any complaints about the MPS4S - they were a massive step up from the Goodyears and Pirellis I had before so I was grateful for that. If I had to nitpick, I’d say they need a bit of heat before they really come alive, but that’s to be expected given they’re more of an occasional-use track tyre anyway.

I'll report back how I get on with the SportContact7s'.