WHHOOOOOWOH! SCARE (2)
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Had a couple of moments this weekend. One in the tunnel on our way back from shoreham, dropped a couple of cogs, lit up the tyres which lost traction, and just managed to catch it in time and not end up kerbing it :o The tunnel was dry, but tyres still very wet. Another warning for winter, perhaps.
The second was much more frightening. I was taking an 80something year old pensioner out for a hoon on Sunday :nuts: and had just come off a roundabout, was knocking back the gears still accelerating like a ballistic missile when the car ahead decides to pull into the outside lane on the dual carriage way.
Other road users see you in their rear view mirror a mile behind them, but always fail to realise that within 2-3 seconds you'll be overtaking them. Its not the first time its happened :rolleyes:
There was absolutely no way I would have stopped in time. With no lanes free, rather than attempt braking and almost certain collision, I hammered it, overtaking (mostly) on the fast-lane hard shoulder :yikes:
Never again. Whilst I feel comfortable in my car, when accelerating on a dry straight (up to 70, tops) :) accounting for the random decisions and manouvers of the general public isnt something I want to have to think about each time I put my foot down.
The second was much more frightening. I was taking an 80something year old pensioner out for a hoon on Sunday :nuts: and had just come off a roundabout, was knocking back the gears still accelerating like a ballistic missile when the car ahead decides to pull into the outside lane on the dual carriage way.
Other road users see you in their rear view mirror a mile behind them, but always fail to realise that within 2-3 seconds you'll be overtaking them. Its not the first time its happened :rolleyes:
There was absolutely no way I would have stopped in time. With no lanes free, rather than attempt braking and almost certain collision, I hammered it, overtaking (mostly) on the fast-lane hard shoulder :yikes:
Never again. Whilst I feel comfortable in my car, when accelerating on a dry straight (up to 70, tops) :) accounting for the random decisions and manouvers of the general public isnt something I want to have to think about each time I put my foot down.
How very true! I know other cars don't expect to see you moving so quick, I always try and keep my speed differential down between me and the other car (if I'm not sure that they've seen me - usually they've heard me 
).
In fact, it only takes a 'spirited' drive to make me realise how shallow the well of my talent is (on the road, with other road users). I'll try and keep it for the track!
Can recommend Ride Drive!
>> Edited by simonsparrow on Monday 3rd October 14:19
). In fact, it only takes a 'spirited' drive to make me realise how shallow the well of my talent is (on the road, with other road users). I'll try and keep it for the track!
Can recommend Ride Drive!
>> Edited by simonsparrow on Monday 3rd October 14:19
just remember you are potentially on a scateboard with a cruise missile attached.
Ive only had the cerb for a month now, thankfully had a couple of scares in the wet, so ive learned to not even bother 'making progress' in the wet or giving it some 'stick' round the bends in the dry.
When the rear end breaks traction in the wet it can happen so fast with the huge amount of torque that its impossible to predict or catch.
I always get in the trev with slight aprehension knowing that one day it will prolly bite me on the ass and i might end up in the morgue.
fear the trev!
Ive only had the cerb for a month now, thankfully had a couple of scares in the wet, so ive learned to not even bother 'making progress' in the wet or giving it some 'stick' round the bends in the dry.
When the rear end breaks traction in the wet it can happen so fast with the huge amount of torque that its impossible to predict or catch.
I always get in the trev with slight aprehension knowing that one day it will prolly bite me on the ass and i might end up in the morgue.
fear the trev!
I did the Half Day a couple of weeks back with the nice chap (albeit rather lofty), Duncan.
My birthday next week and the family are contributing to the Full Day with Track Handling (at Top Gear's track and possibly the skidpan at Goodwood) that I have pre-booked with young (tongue in cheek) Duncan
My birthday next week and the family are contributing to the Full Day with Track Handling (at Top Gear's track and possibly the skidpan at Goodwood) that I have pre-booked with young (tongue in cheek) Duncan
Posted a thread the other day in answer to "did everyone get home safely".
VW Golf pulled out as Jane was overtaking, she managed the slide very well, but we ended up 180 degrees and backwards across the road, over the kerb, along the kitty litter, and into the barrier.
*()&%^$$!"£$%()!!!
Rear offside light cover gone, offside rear quarter panned and wheels scuffed.
Don't know full extent of damage underneath, couldn't bring myself to look at the new (2 month) exhaust box etc.
Not our speed, (50-55) as he just did not look in his mirror, and pulled out at the same time as indicating.
VW Golf pulled out as Jane was overtaking, she managed the slide very well, but we ended up 180 degrees and backwards across the road, over the kerb, along the kitty litter, and into the barrier.
*()&%^$$!"£$%()!!!
Rear offside light cover gone, offside rear quarter panned and wheels scuffed.
Don't know full extent of damage underneath, couldn't bring myself to look at the new (2 month) exhaust box etc.
Not our speed, (50-55) as he just did not look in his mirror, and pulled out at the same time as indicating.
rpa.janwell said:
Posted a thread the other day in answer to "did everyone get home safely".
VW Golf pulled out as Jane was overtaking, she managed the slide very well, but we ended up 180 degrees and backwards across the road, over the kerb, along the kitty litter, and into the barrier.
*()&%^$$!"£$%()!!!
Rear offside light cover gone, offside rear quarter panned and wheels scuffed.
Don't know full extent of damage underneath, couldn't bring myself to look at the new (2 month) exhaust box etc.
Not our speed, (50-55) as he just did not look in his mirror, and pulled out at the same time as indicating.
Right, thats it! My garage is getting locked and giving the key to the missus, not to be returned to me until May at the earliest!
[quote=ajcerb]and as a matter of interest what is the effective age of the 80yr old pensioner after this experience?...
about 105??? Yeah
Actually, I was so calm (did what had to be done, entered my own little world of silent thought) and I had to point out what happened afterwards
When he got home, he spent the next half hour raving about how cool the experience had been, how the car threw his head back when it accelerated, mentioning speeds etc
He took it in quite well, Id imagine his attention span is better than simon sparrows
Nick, are you coming to the track day with Robb Gravett? Ted kindly put up a sticky in general gassing. We have 7 PHers booked in so far - forgot to ask you today if you were one of them
It would be nice to have a few cerberas along too!
about 105??? Yeah
Actually, I was so calm (did what had to be done, entered my own little world of silent thought) and I had to point out what happened afterwards
When he got home, he spent the next half hour raving about how cool the experience had been, how the car threw his head back when it accelerated, mentioning speeds etc
He took it in quite well, Id imagine his attention span is better than simon sparrows
Nick, are you coming to the track day with Robb Gravett? Ted kindly put up a sticky in general gassing. We have 7 PHers booked in so far - forgot to ask you today if you were one of them
It would be nice to have a few cerberas along too!rpa.janwell said:
Posted a thread the other day in answer to "did everyone get home safely".
VW Golf pulled out as Jane was overtaking, she managed the slide very well, but we ended up 180 degrees and backwards across the road, over the kerb, along the kitty litter, and into the barrier.
*()&%^$$!"£$%()!!!
Rear offside light cover gone, offside rear quarter panned and wheels scuffed.
Don't know full extent of damage underneath, couldn't bring myself to look at the new (2 month) exhaust box etc.
Not our speed, (50-55) as he just did not look in his mirror, and pulled out at the same time as indicating.
thats awful. Must have been pretty upsetting. I had to swerve violently to avoid a 65 year old woman, who was TOTALLY oblivious to the fact that the corner she took put her in my lane. It was only because I was turning up ahead that I happend to look over and notice her, and saved the side of my car. I was pretty angry I must admit. Yet another incident which occured just this weekend.Yes, it was even more disturbing that we had been tottering along behind a stack of cars at 50, just taking in the Borders scenery on a really nice day.
And had been behind the Golf for about 15 minutes - it's not as if he did not know we were there.
He did come back to see if we were OK, and said something to the effect "I never saw you".
Not particularly surprising if you don't look in your mirrors and signal before manouvering. Prat.
As per above mails, we'll be on a skid pan/advanced drivers course, Jane with the Cerb, and me with the Sagaris, in the fairly near future.
And had been behind the Golf for about 15 minutes - it's not as if he did not know we were there.
He did come back to see if we were OK, and said something to the effect "I never saw you".
Not particularly surprising if you don't look in your mirrors and signal before manouvering. Prat.
As per above mails, we'll be on a skid pan/advanced drivers course, Jane with the Cerb, and me with the Sagaris, in the fairly near future.
rpa.janwell said:It makes you wonder doesnt it. Not long after I got the cerb, I snapped up some mini blind spot mirrors, which I stuck in the bottom corner of the side mirrors. Every little helps, I suppose
Yes, it was even more disturbing that we had been tottering along behind a stack of cars at 50, just taking in the Borders scenery on a really nice day.
And had been behind the Golf for about 15 minutes - it's not as if he did not know we were there.
He did come back to see if we were OK, and said something to the effect "I never saw you".
Not particularly surprising if you don't look in your mirrors and signal before manouvering. Prat.
As per above mails, we'll be on a skid pan/advanced drivers course, Jane with the Cerb, and me with the Sagaris, in the fairly near future.
So then...
Q) How long does it take simonsparrow to change a set of brake pads?
A) Ohh cool, Ive just booked a place on the next Vmax!
UKBob said:
...had just come off a roundabout, was knocking back the gears still accelerating like a ballistic missile when the car ahead decides to pull into the outside lane on the dual carriage way...
...There was absolutely no way I would have stopped in time. With no lanes free, rather than attempt braking and almost certain collision, I hammered it, overtaking (mostly) on the fast-lane hard shoulder...
Whether or not people use their mirrors sufficiently and whether or not they can judge another car's speed of approach even if they do, we all KNOW that they can change lane at a time that might be poorly judged.
With that in mind, approaching a situation where exactly this scenario can be anticipated whilst "accelerating like a ballistic missile" consitutes driving like a cock in my book, I'm afraid.
We all love the cars for their performance and we all doubtless like to perform the odd demo for co-pilots. Risking an accident involving other people, numpties or not, is not really big or clever though, is it.
daver said:
...had just come off a roundabout, was knocking back the gears still accelerating like a ballistic missile when the car ahead decides to pull into the outside lane on the dual carriage way...
...There was absolutely no way I would have stopped in time. With no lanes free, rather than attempt braking and almost certain collision, I hammered it, overtaking (mostly) on the fast-lane hard shoulder...
Whether or not people use their mirrors sufficiently and whether or not they can judge another car's speed of approach even if they do, we all KNOW that they can change lane at a time that might be poorly judged.
With that in mind, approaching a situation where exactly this scenario can be anticipated whilst "accelerating like a ballistic missile" consitutes driving like a cock in my book, I'm afraid.
We all love the cars for their performance and we all doubtless like to perform the odd demo for co-pilots. Risking an accident involving other people, numpties or not, is not really big or clever though, is it.
Well said !! At last some sense!
daver said:
exactly this scenario can be anticipated whilst "accelerating like a ballistic missile" consitutes driving like a cock in my book, I'm afraid.
......not really big or clever though, is it.
I've baked a humble pie big enough feed a third world country, have tucked in
and agree wholeheartedly. Ive only been driving 14 months, anticipation is a learning curve, and I dont plan on putting myself in the same situation again now that I have the experience of foresight.
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