Being put at risk of burglary (intentionally)

Being put at risk of burglary (intentionally)

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BrettMRC

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4,992 posts

175 months

Tuesday
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(I know, another thread from me about the wkerish behaviour of the farm workers coffee )

The various ups and downs we have here with the commercial farm are an ongoing saga and have been since they took over the place pre-covid, the relationship between home owners and landowner/farm manager/farm workers had actually reached a reasonable point until last winter when Mrs Brett asked one of the tractor drivers if he could stop going by flat out in 1st gear, (politely I might add) since then it's basically open hostility against us all - I've been told to my face that we should "all fking move away" if we don't like the way they do things, and that the roads are for them, not us.

To paint a visual image of these gentlemen, to a man they look identical to the sort of scrotes you see flying through inner Bristol on an illegal electric bike, and behave in the same way.

Anyway...

Over recent weeks there has been a massive uptick in burglary and theft from farms and rural houses in the area, including the nearest neighbour to me which is only 500M away who had a small tractor stolen. This has occurred at roughly the same time as a large travelling community have pitched up in the region, and despite being moved on frequently they are remaining close by.

Naturally we're all on alert and reported some unfamiliar transit based pickups making their way around the surrounding fields etc.

I bumped into one of the workers as he was shutting some gates to one of the fields and asked if there would be any problem with us closing the road gates to the various fields that surround the houses and smallholdings so we can stop the casual snooping - he was fine with it, so we did just that. (I was always taught that gates should be closed anyway)

Fast forward a few days and we noticed that every gate that was near a residential property had been opened, but only those gates.

We closed them, and within 6 hours they were open again.

Some have even had the chains removed so they can't be locked, and one has been deliberately wrecked so it can't be closed.

All this has been done by the farm manager - I've watched him do it in the last 30mins to the road gate near us.

I get that it's not our field, but it's pretty obvious he's trying to get the residential houses burgled.

TL;DR - farmers being a again.

Not sure what I expect PHer's to do - but it's good to vent! biggrin

119

11,795 posts

51 months

Tuesday
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BrettMRC said:
(I know, another thread from me about the wkerish behaviour of the farm workers coffee )

The various ups and downs we have here with the commercial farm are an ongoing saga and have been since they took over the place pre-covid, the relationship between home owners and landowner/farm manager/farm workers had actually reached a reasonable point until last winter when Mrs Brett asked one of the tractor drivers if he could stop going by flat out in 1st gear, (politely I might add) since then it's basically open hostility against us all - I've been told to my face that we should "all fking move away" if we don't like the way they do things, and that the roads are for them, not us.

To paint a visual image of these gentlemen, to a man they look identical to the sort of scrotes you see flying through inner Bristol on an illegal electric bike, and behave in the same way.

Anyway...

Over recent weeks there has been a massive uptick in burglary and theft from farms and rural houses in the area, including the nearest neighbour to me which is only 500M away who had a small tractor stolen. This has occurred at roughly the same time as a large travelling community have pitched up in the region, and despite being moved on frequently they are remaining close by.

Naturally we're all on alert and reported some unfamiliar transit based pickups making their way around the surrounding fields etc.

I bumped into one of the workers as he was shutting some gates to one of the fields and asked if there would be any problem with us closing the road gates to the various fields that surround the houses and smallholdings so we can stop the casual snooping - he was fine with it, so we did just that. (I was always taught that gates should be closed anyway)

Fast forward a few days and we noticed that every gate that was near a residential property had been opened, but only those gates.

We closed them, and within 6 hours they were open again.

Some have even had the chains removed so they can't be locked, and one has been deliberately wrecked so it can't be closed.

All this has been done by the farm manager - I've watched him do it in the last 30mins to the road gate near us.

I get that it's not our field, but it's pretty obvious he's trying to get the residential houses burgled.

TL;DR - farmers being a again.

Not sure what I expect PHer's to do - but it's good to vent! biggrin
You are indeed correct, it's not your field.

Also, why would he want to get the houses burgled?

AndyAudi

3,456 posts

237 months

Tuesday
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In my opinion/experience

Manager probably doesn’t want you burgled

He wants you to understand you request things from the organ grinder not the monkey.

(Sad to say my old man wouldn’t be pleased with requests to his workers not him & he’d probably go out of his way to do the opposite!)

geeks

10,453 posts

154 months

Tuesday
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I feel some of your pain. We have had to ask the farmer several times to ask the guys that cut the stubble and bring the bales in to ease off when they go past the house partly because the clouds of diesel smoke are fking horrible but also because the exit off of our driveway is unsighted. Farmer has apologised several times and asked them to ease off, they do this for an hour or so before they are back to flat out again, rinse and repeat. I have since confronted the guys that do the bailing who basically shrugged and told us we should just be grateful they are producing food for us to eat. We are, it doesn't mean you get to be a wk spangle about it though.

BrettMRC

Original Poster:

4,992 posts

175 months

Tuesday
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119 said:
You are indeed correct, it's not your field.

Also, why would he want to get the houses burgled?
AndyAudi said:
In my opinion/experience

Manager probably doesn t want you burgled

He wants you to understand you request things from the organ grinder not the monkey.

(Sad to say my old man wouldn t be pleased with requests to his workers not him & he d probably go out of his way to do the opposite!)
Sadly the answer to both of these is because he is a deeply unpleasant person who has made it very clear that none of us are welcome here any more.

Steve H

6,259 posts

210 months

Yesterday (08:26)
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There as many different types of people in farming as in any area of life.

By us we have plenty who are friendly and helpful but a few others that act like entitled tts who think everyone is an outsider with no right to be there.

Unfortunately you can’t fix miserable.



Regarding the OP’s issue, the only answer is to ensure there is plenty of visible security on the land you do own and hope it is enough to push anyone away and towards your unhelpful neighbours.

GasEngineer

1,440 posts

77 months

Yesterday (09:38)
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Can't you nip out if you see him opening the gates and say that they have agreed to keep them shut ?

hidetheelephants

30,212 posts

208 months

Yesterday (10:32)
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Being a huge bellend is an equal opportunity pursuit; buy a load of st padlocks and some cheap chain to replace all the missing chains. You may forget to pass on the keys, you have a hectic life what with the worry of avoiding burglary.

donkmeister

10,276 posts

115 months

Yesterday (10:55)
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hidetheelephants said:
Being a huge bellend is an equal opportunity pursuit; buy a load of st padlocks and some cheap chain to replace all the missing chains. You may forget to pass on the keys, you have a hectic life what with the worry of avoiding burglary.
hehe

All good fun, but probably best avoided if he doesn't like the smell of slurry. Muck spreaders only seem to malfunction when farm workers have the hump.


OP, all I can suggest is put your polite requests in writing to the farm manager. Email or letter, take your pick. Be unexcited and unemotional, tts like that feel empowered by getting a rise out of people. Just state what you want to happen and why.

If it doesn't happen, escalate higher in the company that owns the farm.

shed driving

49 posts

1 month

Yesterday (11:36)
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They're not trying to get you burgled they don't like you and they don't want you there, and vice versa. You can either move or go to war. War means violence / jail or worse. You make the choice.

geeks

10,453 posts

154 months

Yesterday (11:52)
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shed driving said:
They're not trying to get you burgled they don't like you and they don't want you there, and vice versa. You can either move or go to war. War means violence / jail or worse. You make the choice.
Lol what?

119

11,795 posts

51 months

Yesterday (12:00)
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donkmeister said:
hidetheelephants said:
Being a huge bellend is an equal opportunity pursuit; buy a load of st padlocks and some cheap chain to replace all the missing chains. You may forget to pass on the keys, you have a hectic life what with the worry of avoiding burglary.
hehe

All good fun, but probably best avoided if he doesn't like the smell of slurry. Muck spreaders only seem to malfunction when farm workers have the hump.


OP, all I can suggest is put your polite requests in writing to the farm manager. Email or letter, take your pick. Be unexcited and unemotional, tts like that feel empowered by getting a rise out of people. Just state what you want to happen and why.

If it doesn't happen, escalate higher in the company that owns the farm.
I can almost guarentee they will not want to get involved.

And if the op starts chaining the gates closed all that will happen is the farmer will just remove them completely.


BrettMRC

Original Poster:

4,992 posts

175 months

Yesterday (12:24)
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119 said:
I can almost guarentee they will not want to get involved.

And if the op starts chaining the gates closed all that will happen is the farmer will just remove them completely.
Exactly - it's annoying, and always feels very one sided - but there is very little we can do inside of the law.

It's a burgeoning issue accross the countryside though; where previously you had multiple farms that had operated within the community for generations - now we have commercial farming where the owner may have dozens of farms spread over several counties. These farms individually are often over 1000 acres each and have small communities within the boundries. Add to this the price pressures on farming, newer, bigger vehicles for efficiency and a tendancy to now hire the cheapest possible labour and it becomes obvious why there are issues.


Peterpetrole

726 posts

12 months

Yesterday (12:35)
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Find out who they supply

Tesco

Make a fuss to Tesco

Use social media

Tisy

662 posts

7 months

Yesterday (12:40)
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I have a suspicion that the farmer's version of events will differ quite substantially from the version(s) that BrettMC has been posting across multiple threads now.

I'm already sympathising with the farmer when the nuts and bolts of the complaints are whining that you are driving your tractor in the wrong gear and it's putting out too much fumes. rolleyes

Chaining their gates closed so they can't do their farming is a surefire way to escalate matters to number 11 on a dial that only goes up to 10 and farmers have about 3000 different ways to make you suffer in ways that you can't even begin to imagine. I recommend letting him get on with his farming duties using whatever gear he wants to use on his tractor and you find yourself a hobby.

BrettMRC

Original Poster:

4,992 posts

175 months

Yesterday (13:06)
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Tisy said:
I have a suspicion that the farmer's version of events will differ quite substantially from the version(s) that BrettMC has been posting across multiple threads now.

I'm already sympathising with the farmer when the nuts and bolts of the complaints are whining that you are driving your tractor in the wrong gear and it's putting out too much fumes. rolleyes

Chaining their gates closed so they can't do their farming is a surefire way to escalate matters to number 11 on a dial that only goes up to 10 and farmers have about 3000 different ways to make you suffer in ways that you can't even begin to imagine. I recommend letting him get on with his farming duties using whatever gear he wants to use on his tractor and you find yourself a hobby.
Tell me you're a contrator without telling me you're a contractor?

If you've spent the time stalking my threads over the years, (thanks by the way, would have taken awhile so I appreciate the effort) then you'll know the problems are significantly deeper.

Looking forward to new ways of suffering.

shed driving

49 posts

1 month

Yesterday (13:09)
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BrettMRC said:
Tell me you're a contrator without telling me you're a contractor?

If you've spent the time stalking my threads over the years, (thanks by the way, would have taken awhile so I appreciate the effort) then you'll know the problems are significantly deeper.

Looking forward to new ways of suffering.
Why not move? You're obs not happy where you are

BrettMRC

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4,992 posts

175 months

Yesterday (13:15)
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shed driving said:
Why not move? You're obs not happy where you are
Honestly?

Because fk being bullied out of my home.

Chris Peacock

3,077 posts

149 months

Yesterday (13:21)
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BrettMRC said:
it's pretty obvious he's trying to get the residential houses burgled.
That's quite a leap. It's much more likely he's simply unhappy with a nuisance neighbour trying to tell him what to do with his property so he's making a point.

shed driving

49 posts

1 month

Yesterday (13:25)
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BrettMRC said:
Honestly?

Because fk being bullied out of my home.
I get it. I'm dealing with something similar but a bit of jail time doesn't bother me. That's the difference between them and me and why that keeps me ahead of them. If you're not for moving, it's the laws of the animal kindown - which is the actual law rather what some tt wrote down with a quill on a piece of parchment wink