Social Services in the UK

[Petrus1983]

It seems shocking. A bunch of middle/old aged women being judge and jury over such serious scenarios - when did Social Services become a hidden North Korea?

A friend who doesn't drink (boring), doesn't take drugs etc has just been told she's losing her kids to her ex - who's had a past of abusive behaviour, lost his job due to fraud etc Her offense - dating someone she didn't know about in March.

Before the hate - she's a friend and my son lives in Dallas (who's sadly lost 6 school friends in the flood).

Anyone know the jurisdiction??

[Ridgemont]

There appears to be a lot of missing detail or context here so not sure what response you are looking for?

[Jamescrs]

Definitely a lot of missing information in the post.

[wc98]

Is this in the States or UK. From what i can see in the UK it's usually the opposite where kids get left with abusive parents/guardians until they end up dead.

[egor110]

How do you date someone you don't know about ?

[greygoose]

Petrus1983 said:

It seems shocking. A bunch of middle/old aged women being judge and jury over such serious scenarios - when did Social Services become a hidden North Korea?

A friend who doesn't drink (boring), doesn't take drugs etc has just been told she's losing her kids to her ex - who's had a past of abusive behaviour, lost his job due to fraud etc Her offense - dating someone she didn't know about in March.

Before the hate - she's a friend and my son lives in Dallas (who's sadly lost 6 school friends in the flood).

Anyone know the jurisdiction??

Odd collection of sentences not making a clear story, why does the son appear? Is he the mystery man dated in March?

[MrBogSmith]

Petrus1983 said:

It seems shocking. A bunch of middle/old aged women being judge and jury over such serious scenarios.

There's literally a court involved (unless it's voluntary). Quite the opposite to being 'judge and jury'.

From what I saw of social services things had to get really bad for them to remove a child.

The relevant people should seek legal advice etc.

[Paddymcc]

MrBogSmith said:

here's literally a court involved (unless it's voluntary)

From what I saw of social services things had to get really bad for them to remove a child.

My better half works in this area of social services and this is exactly the case. Things have to be really bad for social services to go to court to seek removal of kids and put them into care. Typically things like neglect, drugs, alcohol, abuse or the whole lot all at once.

[Sheepshanks]

Was the "someone she didn't know about" on the sex offenders register (or similar)?

And she denied she was seeing him?

[Countdown]

wc98 said:

Is this in the States or UK. From what i can see in the UK it's usually the opposite where kids get left with abusive parents/guardians until they end up dead.

That's not down to Social Services. They'll usually put an application in to take the child into care if they think it's at risk, the parent(s) will fight the application and a judge decides.

[Colonel Cupcake]

Paddymcc said:

MrBogSmith said:

here's literally a court involved (unless it's voluntary)

From what I saw of social services things had to get really bad for them to remove a child.

My better half works in this area of social services and this is exactly the case. Things have to be really bad for social services to go to court to seek removal of kids and put them into care. Typically things like neglect, drugs, alcohol, abuse or the whole lot all at once.

You are only getting information from one side. Try speaking to someone on the receiving end.

[98elise]

MrBogSmith said:

Petrus1983 said:

It seems shocking. A bunch of middle/old aged women being judge and jury over such serious scenarios.

There's literally a court involved (unless it's voluntary). Quite the opposite to being 'judge and jury'.

From what I saw of social services things had to get really bad for them to remove a child.

The relevant people should seek legal advice etc.

Agreed. My mother was a social worker most of her working life. Social workers do not have the powers the OP is claiming. That lies with the courts.

[OutInTheShed]

98elise said:

Agreed. My mother was a social worker most of her working life. Social workers do not have the powers the OP is claiming. That lies with the courts.

Social services can AIUI get an Emergency Protection Order, in minutes.
I'm not sure if police involvement is required, but it definitely happens.

[Crumpet]

My wife is a lower-level manager in social services. I don’t want to hear her talk about the job; I’m actually amazed they can get anyone to do the front line work - it sounds horrendous.

The OP’s jab at middle/old aged women in upper management is warranted, though. I can only relay what my wife says but the lack of management skills is staggering. She has no issues with the male managers.

Either way, all I can work out is that councils st away public money on utterly mental stuff.

[98elise]

OutInTheShed said:

98elise said:

Agreed. My mother was a social worker most of her working life. Social workers do not have the powers the OP is claiming. That lies with the courts.

Social services can AIUI get an Emergency Protection Order, in minutes.
I'm not sure if police involvement is required, but it definitely happens.

The OP hasn't mentioned an emergency. Its quite the opposite in fact he's making out the other parent is the problem. They can't just rock up and decide to take a child from a mother and give it to the father.

[OutInTheShed]

98elise said:

The OP hasn't mentioned an emergency. Its quite the opposite in fact he's making out the other parent is the problem. They can't just rock up and decide to take a child from a mother and give it to the father.

The OP is spouting incoherent gibberish.