Cumbria mega mosque - UKIP content

Cumbria mega mosque - UKIP content

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ChevronB19

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7,893 posts

178 months

Tuesday 22nd July
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This has been dragging on for ages, people saying it is a ‘mega mosque’ and ‘in the Lake District’, neither of which are true. It’s the size of a parish church and is close to the Lake District, but not in it.

Protests are getting worse now. Contractors being called ‘traitors’ etc., extra police patrols, arrests etc.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpvj0981dvxo

chrispmartha

19,328 posts

144 months

Tuesday 22nd July
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Society is going backwards at a fair rate of knots.

markbigears

2,485 posts

284 months

Tuesday 22nd July
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I’d say our society is finally going forwards

bitchstewie

59,083 posts

225 months

Tuesday 22nd July
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It's about the level these days.

Give it until the end of page 1 and you'll have people defending the people protesting.

wc98

11,940 posts

155 months

Tuesday 22nd July
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I wonder if those complaining about it would be happy if the Doctors having it built decided not to build it but also left the area for a more welcoming area where they could find somewhere to worship close to home ?

I'm not a fan of religion at all but as long as it is legal people should be able to build places of worship without hassle regardless of who or what they worship.

119

12,368 posts

51 months

Tuesday 22nd July
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All seems to be above board so not really sure what the fuss is about tbh.

chrispmartha

19,328 posts

144 months

Tuesday 22nd July
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wc98 said:
I wonder if those complaining about it would be happy if the Doctors having it built decided not to build it but also left the area for a more welcoming area where they could find somewhere to worship close to home ?

I'm not a fan of religion at all but as long as it is legal people should be able to build places of worship without hassle regardless of who or what they worship.
I used to be totally against religion and quite forthright in my views about it, but Ive softened a lot over the last few years, I'm still a total atheist, I think it's total bobbins but I more live and let live these days.

As for the mosque, so what, who cares if its serving a need for the local community then that's good in my mind.

brake fader

1,902 posts

50 months

Tuesday 22nd July
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There are more people opposing it than want it, planning should never be granted it's simply not needed.

ChocolateFrog

32,159 posts

188 months

Tuesday 22nd July
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A Religious doctor sounds like an oxymoron to me.

I don't know how you can do both in this country legitimately without a conflict of personal interest.

Tankrizzo

7,741 posts

208 months

Tuesday 22nd July
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That UKIP leader sounds like an absolute fruitcake.

Quite like the design of that mosque tbh.

Bill

55,839 posts

270 months

Tuesday 22nd July
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brake fader said:
There are more people opposing it than want it, planning should never be granted it's simply not needed.
Then NIMBYS would mean nothing gets built...

brake fader

1,902 posts

50 months

Tuesday 22nd July
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wc98 said:
I wonder if those complaining about it would be happy if the Doctors having it built decided not to build it but also left the area for a more welcoming area where they could find somewhere to worship close to home ?

I'm not a fan of religion at all but as long as it is legal people should be able to build places of worship without hassle regardless of who or what they worship.
It may be a great idea to ask let the locals decide, Doctors or mosque?

Bill

55,839 posts

270 months

Tuesday 22nd July
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ChocolateFrog said:
A Religious doctor sounds like an oxymoron to me.

I don't know how you can do both in this country legitimately without a conflict of personal interest.
Apart from abortion, which is an issue for plenty of non-religious people, where is there a conflict?

wc98

11,940 posts

155 months

Tuesday 22nd July
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chrispmartha said:
I used to be totally against religion and quite forthright in my views about it, but Ive softened a lot over the last few years, I'm still a total atheist, I think it's total bobbins but I more live and let live these days.

As for the mosque, so what, who cares if its serving a need for the local community then that's good in my mind.
Ditto, for me it's an age thing. The older i get the more tolerant and accepting i become. Live and let live, be nice to everyone you come into contact with (outside of NPE biggrin)and it makes life much nicer in general.

Mastodon2

14,043 posts

180 months

Tuesday 22nd July
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ChocolateFrog said:
A Religious doctor sounds like an oxymoron to me.

I don't know how you can do both in this country legitimately without a conflict of personal interest.
They're doctors who happen to be Muslims, they're not faith healers. Having religious beliefs and the ability to practice medicine are not mutually exclusive.

Regarding the mosque, it doesn't look to be an eyesore, it's not excessively large, it's will be the only one for miles etc. Yeah, maybe there's not a huge community who will use it, but I suspect that if it were a new church being built that nobody would be up in arms.

brake fader

1,902 posts

50 months

Tuesday 22nd July
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Mastodon2 said:
They're doctors who happen to be Muslims, they're not faith healers. Having religious beliefs and the ability to practice medicine are not mutually exclusive.

Regarding the mosque, it doesn't look to be an eyesore, it's not excessively large, it's will be the only one for miles etc. Yeah, maybe there's not a huge community who will use it, but I suspect that if it were a new church being built that nobody would be up in arms.
With 3500 churches closing since 2013 i can't see any new ones being built.

ChocolateFrog

32,159 posts

188 months

Tuesday 22nd July
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Bill said:
ChocolateFrog said:
A Religious doctor sounds like an oxymoron to me.

I don't know how you can do both in this country legitimately without a conflict of personal interest.
Apart from abortion, which is an issue for plenty of non-religious people, where is there a conflict?
That would depend on the religion and the level to which the doctor prescribes to it.

I get a bit shakey after 4 or 5 hours without food. I wouldn't want to be undertaking surgery after say 10hrs without food as one example.

But I can think of quite a few GP scenarios where advice could be tainted by someone's belief in the make believe.

wc98

11,940 posts

155 months

Tuesday 22nd July
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brake fader said:
It may be a great idea to ask let the locals decide, Doctors or mosque?
It might if most people were sensible when it comes to things being built near them, the NIMBY phenomena suggests not.

BOR

5,022 posts

270 months

Tuesday 22nd July
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Anyone else surprised that UKIP were still going?

Didn't they get what they wanted? But still angry at the world?

Mastodon2

14,043 posts

180 months

Tuesday 22nd July
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brake fader said:
With 3500 churches closing since 2013 i can't see any new ones being built.
Neither can I, but that's not the point I was making.