Reliable couriers - do they exist?
Reliable couriers - do they exist?
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8IKERDAVE

Original Poster:

2,582 posts

230 months

Tuesday 22nd July
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A bit of context here. My business uses DX for all deliveries. We generally send 3-5 large items per day to subcontractors around the UK who are working on our behalf. We have a daily collection and pay a minimum charge each week to guarantee this.

Of late, the service has become quite unreliable. This typically happens around Christmas time for obvious reasons but generally it is ok the rest of the time.

On a number of occasions we have paid a premium to guarantee the delivery is made by 10:30 the following day only for the delivery to be made 2-3 hours later. I was under the assumption that the early delivery fee would be refunded and automatically downgraded to a standard delivery fee. However, it appears this is not the case and regardless of when the delivery is made we are still charged the early delivery premium. To say I'm fuming is an understatement! Despite this being immoral how is it even legal?

We have dabbled with other couriers in the past but I haven't looked into this in any great detail for some time. I am now determined that DX won't get our business anymore but would be really grateful if anyone can recommend an alternative. There is a lot of hassle involved in changing couriers and the last thing I want to do is jump from the frying pan into the fire.

Muzzer79

12,245 posts

204 months

Tuesday 22nd July
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I work in this industry

General consensus is:

Evri are the cheapest but most unreliable - they have a reputation for a reason

DX are a step above that, but not too many steps.....the middle ground that they inhabit contains many players.

DPD are the best quality, but also at the higher end on price.


Now, someone will come along in a minute and say that DPD are crap and their parcels always get lost and so on. However, I could name any parcel courier and that would be the case.

Overall, I've found DPD to be the best in terms of service.


8IKERDAVE

Original Poster:

2,582 posts

230 months

Wednesday 23rd July
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Thank you.

I'm looking into it right now and DPD don't have any details on their site about setting up a daily collection so I need to do a little more digging. Not a great start though, typically getting hold of a salesman / account manager should be simple!

blue_haddock

4,544 posts

84 months

Wednesday 23rd July
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We use DHL at work and they are simply fantastic. Very rarely have an issue and when we do its swiftly resolved.

Dont think they have lost a single parcel at all.

otherman

2,246 posts

182 months

Wednesday 23rd July
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blue_haddock said:
We use DHL at work and they are simply fantastic. Very rarely have an issue and when we do its swiftly resolved.

Dont think they have lost a single parcel at all.
Huh, they damaged an expensive one of mine, try claiming from them. Impossible.

8IKERDAVE

Original Poster:

2,582 posts

230 months

Wednesday 23rd July
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Thanks, I'll give DHL a try too.

Having had many years of experience with couriers I can confirm claiming anything back from them is always a nightmare!. They seem to operate different parameters to the rest of us!

blue_haddock

4,544 posts

84 months

Wednesday 23rd July
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otherman said:
blue_haddock said:
We use DHL at work and they are simply fantastic. Very rarely have an issue and when we do its swiftly resolved.

Dont think they have lost a single parcel at all.
Huh, they damaged an expensive one of mine, try claiming from them. Impossible.
But thats the thing, in several years of using them for business i havent needed to make a claim.

Which is a win to me.

Venisonpie

4,199 posts

99 months

Thursday 24th July
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As is evident from the posts thus far, they're all frustrating just to different degrees. This could be from a top down corporate culture to the luck of how decent your local depot is.

I've worked for various parcel companies albeit 25 years ago and the difference was stark, some I'm amazed anything found its destination to others that were almost reliable. Depending on volume I'd be tempted to work with more than one and find out where the best service lies, back in 2001 rural Suffolk TNT were excellent but I don't know if they even exist anymore.

soad

34,051 posts

193 months

Thursday 24th July
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Warehouse has multiple daily collections with the UPS and FedEX. Often see Evri trailers parked next door (Amazon). hehe

Even RM failed to deliver a SD (on time) once, £9.99 fee refunded.

Liamjrhodes

315 posts

158 months

Thursday 24th July
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We use DHL and in the last week they have failed to collect a parcel 3 times with no explanation just sorry please rearrange for the next day

Mark Turmell

760 posts

29 months

Thursday 24th July
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UPS are the same, you pay for the 10:30 service and it then arrives 3 days later. rolleyes

The customer then needs to claim a refund, it’s not automatically credited and UPS will then try and wriggle out of the refund and claim circumstances out of their control.

UPS also like to ‘lose’ roughly one in ten of our parcels, they probably took £30k’s worth of laptops last year and trying to claim on their insurance is extremely convoluted.


Motorman74

477 posts

38 months

Thursday 24th July
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There are all pretty much the same from my experiece.

Evri get really bad press but our regular Evri guy is superb and we've not had a problem since he's been delivering - DPD went really bad for a while for us - every parcel damaged, when we spoke to the company that sent one, they guessed which depot it had been delivered from before I'd given them an address as they have so many problems with that depot - our area is now delivered from a different depot and they are great again.

Yodel haven't lost anything of ours recently, DHL seem OK.

In my experience, and I get a LOT of parcels delivered, many of which are relatively heavy and awkward (20KG of charcoal for example) or super time sensitive (frozen meat for example) it all comes down to what your local depot is like - it always seems to be the final step that is either great or spoils the experience.

Venisonpie

4,199 posts

99 months

Thursday 24th July
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Motorman74 said:
.. it all comes down to what your local depot is like - it always seems to be the final step that is either great or spoils the experience.
This.

oddball1313

1,386 posts

140 months

Thursday 24th July
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We ve used APC for years and never have any issues, i think they work as a franchise so my point of contact is a small independent company who actually give a st.

UPS is beyond appalling- I wouldn’t use them if they were free

soad

34,051 posts

193 months

Thursday 24th July
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Disappointing to hear poor feedback about the UPS, as we used them extensively during and after COVID-19.

MattsCar

1,813 posts

122 months

Thursday 24th July
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DPD end of story. 1000's of parcels sent. 0 issues.

Yodel...absolutely abysmal. Literally will turn up 1 week/7 days later and the driver shakes his head at you for not having the parcel ready for him after the explanation the customer has cancelled.

Royal mail Tracked 24/48 is fine for small stuff and reliable.

Proof...

Edited by MattsCar on Thursday 24th July 22:40

Mark Turmell

760 posts

29 months

Friday 25th July
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soad said:
Disappointing to hear poor feedback about the UPS, as we used them extensively during and after COVID-19.
There’s just no consistency with them and when things inevitably go missing that’s it, you won’t see it again and they’ll then send you the generic claims form rolleyes

There’s no UK customer service, so emails and phone calls are all offshore and they lie when you ask where the parcel is.

They even tried to blame me by saying the missing parcels hadn’t been collected from me, even though they were all scanned and clearly showing on the tracker.

All the above has happened many times, but the company I work for are partners with UPS so I can’t change couriers.