ID4 Pro?
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twing

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5,539 posts

149 months

Friday 25th July
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Couldn't find a recent thread on these. Been offered (forced into) one of these as a company car. It'll be a 71 one plate, other than that I know nothing about them so any help appreciated.
I'll only really use it for my short commute which is 25 miles per day, mostly slow country roads.
The main issue I have is charging. I've got no way to charge at home so will mostly be a case of getting to a charging point once a week and fully charging.
For emergencies I'll be able to get a short charge at my OH's but a quick Google suggests it will take forever to get even a few miles into it.
My weekly petrol bill is only about £15 so the cost saving will be negligible.
Can anyone give me some good news about them?
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Sheepshanks

38,044 posts

137 months

Friday 25th July
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Not really. If you're public charging it's going to be costing you 2x what you spend on petrol.

V8 Stang

4,469 posts

201 months

Friday 25th July
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Can’t you plug it in at work?

twing

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Friday 25th July
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Sheepshanks said:
Not really. If you're public charging it's going to be costing you 2x what you spend on petrol.
Is what I thought. To be honest it's more the time and effort than the amount of money is small. I've got a public charger just down the road but can only really get to it one a week and there's only so much time I can spend wandering round a garden centre.

P675

533 posts

50 months

Friday 25th July
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Yeah this isn't going to work. Forced into a company car?

twing

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V8 Stang said:
Can t you plug it in at work?
That's to be confirmed, if so then It's all good.

P675 said:
Yeah this isn't going to work. Forced into a company car?
Well forced out of a small commercial and into an EV. Being in the trade I do need to get my head around electrics at some point and driving one will be the best way.


Tallywagger

22 posts

3 months

Friday 25th July
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twing said:
Can anyone give me some good news about them?
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Yeah my sister has one as a company car. She likes the higher driving position, but otherwise hates it, and wants her old Golf back.

piecost76

292 posts

192 months

Friday 25th July
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I'm obviously a bit weird.

Left a ICE company car & into a VW ID7 Tourer.

Amazing car, super comfy, loads more gadgets than the ICE (Skoda Superb TDi) and great rage (300 miles+)

Taken it on several round trips of 300 miles and never had range anxiety.

I also get free charging at work and got a free Ohme charger installed at home which I have used 3x since February due to the decent range & free work charging biggrin

Genuinely, cannot see the hate for EVs & for the record, I use it a lot (12,200 miles since 2 February so approx. 24k p.a.

I understand that an ID4 doesn't have the range though so charging would need to be planned more.

Evanivitch

25,026 posts

140 months

Friday 25th July
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twing said:
Couldn't find a recent thread on these. Been offered (forced into) one of these as a company car. It'll be a 71 one plate, other than that I know nothing about them so any help appreciated.
I'll only really use it for my short commute which is 25 miles per day, mostly slow country roads.
The main issue I have is charging. I've got no way to charge at home so will mostly be a case of getting to a charging point once a week and fully charging.
For emergencies I'll be able to get a short charge at my OH's but a quick Google suggests it will take forever to get even a few miles into it.
My weekly petrol bill is only about £15 so the cost saving will be negligible.
Can anyone give me some good news about them?
.
125 miles a week, call it 150, and needing 50kWh charge is going to cost you £3.50 with home charging and between £22.50 and £44 with public charging.

Unless you can get a home charging solution and a home charger (standard install £700-£1200), there's really no obvious financial benefits in your use case.

Sheepshanks

38,044 posts

137 months

Friday 25th July
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piecost76 said:
I'm obviously a bit weird.

Left a ICE company car & into a VW ID7 Tourer.

Amazing car, super comfy, loads more gadgets than the ICE (Skoda Superb TDi) and great rage (300 miles+)

Taken it on several round trips of 300 miles and never had range anxiety.

I also get free charging at work and got a free Ohme charger installed at home which I have used 3x since February due to the decent range & free work charging biggrin

Genuinely, cannot see the hate for EVs & for the record, I use it a lot (12,200 miles since 2 February so approx. 24k p.a.

I understand that an ID4 doesn't have the range though so charging would need to be planned more.
Maybe I'm missing something but your reply seems completely irrelevant to the OP's situation?

twing

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5,539 posts

149 months

Friday 25th July
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To be fair it was good to see a new EV user enjoying it. I don't think I can make one work at the moment though, too much grief unless I can charge at work. Thanks for putting me off driving

twing

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149 months

Wednesday 6th August
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Quick update, I've got the hateful thing. It's huge, heavy and let's say not a lot of fun to drive. Range is pretty good and driving in Eco it's frugal enough. Still nowhere to charge on a regular basis but I'll get it down to 50 miles and drive the other car until I've got time to fully charge it somewhere when's convenient
Can see how one would work with a home charger but think I'll be buying a cheap hack to get to work and back and use the other car for everything else.

Edited by twing on Wednesday 6th August 13:25

uktrailmonster

7,041 posts

218 months

Wednesday 6th August
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twing said:
Quick update, I've got the hateful thing. It's huge, heavy and let's say not a lot of fun to drive. Range is pretty good and driving in Eco it's frugal enough. Still nowhere to charge on a regular basis but I'll get it down to 50 miles and drive the other car until I've got time to fully charge it somewhere when's convenient
Can see how one would work with a home charger but think I'll be buying a cheap hack to get to work and back and use the other car for everything else.

Edited by twing on Wednesday 6th August 13:25
Yeah, without home or work charging you are not getting the real benefit here.

TheDeuce

29,552 posts

84 months

Wednesday 6th August
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Evanivitch said:
twing said:
Couldn't find a recent thread on these. Been offered (forced into) one of these as a company car. It'll be a 71 one plate, other than that I know nothing about them so any help appreciated.
I'll only really use it for my short commute which is 25 miles per day, mostly slow country roads.
The main issue I have is charging. I've got no way to charge at home so will mostly be a case of getting to a charging point once a week and fully charging.
For emergencies I'll be able to get a short charge at my OH's but a quick Google suggests it will take forever to get even a few miles into it.
My weekly petrol bill is only about £15 so the cost saving will be negligible.
Can anyone give me some good news about them?
.
125 miles a week, call it 150, and needing 50kWh charge is going to cost you £3.50 with home charging and between £22.50 and £44 with public charging.

Unless you can get a home charging solution and a home charger (standard install £700-£1200), there's really no obvious financial benefits in your use case.
Apart from tax saving and getting a brand new car - those are fairly obvious benefits and I suspect the tax saving will dwarf the slight increase in running costs.

OP, is there really no way you can charge it at home using the granny charger? Or at work using it?

Evanivitch

25,026 posts

140 months

Wednesday 6th August
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TheDeuce said:
Apart from tax saving and getting a brand new car - those are fairly obvious benefits and I suspect the tax saving will dwarf the slight increase in running costs.

OP, is there really no way you can charge it at home using the granny charger? Or at work using it?
What tax savings? They've been forced into a company car, are they paying for it? If so then they're paying for something they can't run effectively and are looking to get an ICE. When did OP state they wanted a new car?

"Slight" increase in running costs seems to be pretty big when the range of charge pricing is suitably large and inconvenient.

twing said:
Well forced out of a small commercial and into an EV. Being in the trade I do need to get my head around electrics at some point and driving one will be the best way.

twing

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Wednesday 6th August
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TheDeuce said:
Apart from tax saving and getting a brand new car - those are fairly obvious benefits and I suspect the tax saving will dwarf the slight increase in running costs.

OP, is there really no way you can charge it at home using the granny charger? Or at work using it?
The tax saving against an LCV isn't that great to be honest. No way to charge at home at all, the parking configuration outside (and living in an upper flat) just doesn't work. It's not a biggie for me, it's a car I can use when it suits me to charge it and I have alternatives.

TheDeuce

29,552 posts

84 months

Wednesday 6th August
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twing said:
TheDeuce said:
Apart from tax saving and getting a brand new car - those are fairly obvious benefits and I suspect the tax saving will dwarf the slight increase in running costs.

OP, is there really no way you can charge it at home using the granny charger? Or at work using it?
The tax saving against an LCV isn't that great to be honest. No way to charge at home at all, the parking configuration outside (and living in an upper flat) just doesn't work. It's not a biggie for me, it's a car I can use when it suits me to charge it and I have alternatives.
But compared to no company vehicle the tax saving is significant. And as it stands pretty much any new company car is likely to be electric.

Have you tried this in your area? https://co-charger.com/map/

I just had a look near me and there are some very cheap ones around here, which surprised me as I live in a tiny market town. I'm guessing as you live in a flat you're in a more densely populated area and there's probably plenty of choice nearby.


Jon39

14,021 posts

161 months

Wednesday 6th August
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twing said:
Well forced out of a small commercial and into an EV.
Being in the trade, I do need to get my head around electrics at some point and driving one will be the best way.

A small commercial suggests that you might be in a business activity.

I have noticed some drivers who are employees (seems to be mainly large companies) relaxing in their vans for more than an hour, waiting for the battery to be recharged. If your employer insists that you to have an electrical vehicle, it seems only fair that you are allowed to charge it during working hours?
You could have restful sleep while you are waiting.

Can you imagine many years ago, saying to your employer during the working day, "Can I have a sleep for an hour on full pay, I am feeling a little tired". Would probably have resulted in the sack.

How times change!


EDIT.
I have just read that your EV has now arrived. I presume that the good point for you, is that you are not the owner. The rapid loss of value, is ether paid for by your employer, or their finance company.

Had to laugh at the (so we are told) benefit to the environment. You describe having to use an additional car, to cope with some aspects which you are finding inconvenient.


Edited by Jon39 on Wednesday 6th August 16:48

TheDeuce

29,552 posts

84 months

Wednesday 6th August
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Jon39 said:

twing said:
Well forced out of a small commercial and into an EV.
Being in the trade, I do need to get my head around electrics at some point and driving one will be the best way.

A small commercial suggests that you might be in a business activity.

I have noticed some drivers who are employees (seems to be mainly large companies) relaxing in their vans for more than an hour, waiting for the battery to be recharged. If your employer insists that you to have an electrical vehicle, it seems only fair that you are allowed to charge it during working hours?
You could have restful sleep while you are waiting.

Can you imagine many years ago, saying to your employer during the working day, "Can I have a sleep for an hour on full pay, I am feeling a little tired". Would probably have resulted in the sack.

How times change!


EDIT.
I have just read that your EV has now arrived. I presume that the good point for you, is that you are not the owner. The rapid loss of value, is ether paid for by your employer, or their finance company.

Had to laugh at the (so we are told) benefit to the environment. You describe having to use an additional car, to cope with some aspects which you are finding inconvenient.


Edited by Jon39 on Wednesday 6th August 16:48
Many years ago and employee might have been idle for an hour of that's how long they had to charge.

But there's zero reason the OP should need to take that long for an in working hours charge.

Also these days pretty much all employees have something they can remotely wherever they are, responding to emails, sort calendar, call client etc etc.

It's a bit daft to imagine an employee needs to wait an hour to charge during their working day or that they can't continue to be useful for that time - or more realistically take a lunch break and eat a sandwich.

twing

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Wednesday 6th August
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Jon39 said:



EDIT.
I have just read that your EV has now arrived. I presume that the good point for you, is that you are not the owner. The rapid loss of value, is ether paid for by your employer, or their finance company.

Had to laugh at the (so we are told) benefit to the environment. You describe having to use an additional car, to cope with some aspects which you are finding inconvenient.


Edited by Jon39 on Wednesday 6th August 16:48