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Ceeejay said:
Anyone got experience of these? I ve seen some reasonable lease deals going on them. We re replacing an 8 year old Macan diesel, who s duties involve running around locally and every other week a 200 mile journey each way for work, with the opportunity for an over night charge
The name's Bond, James Bond.They look decent cars, Mrs Eldar is looking at them, possibly the slightly smaller Elroq. Decent range, 250+, quick charging and well put together.
Hi, yes, about 4 weeks into a 2 year business lease deal on an 85x Sportline.
In terms of money, for me, no question, this was worth doing. It was about £270 plus VAT for 10k miles 12+23. Free metallic. Latest tech deck facelift, Sportline is v high spec now: area view, HUD, Canton audio etc. Cars already built, no additional options, but there was nothing more I would have wanted anyway. I own a VAT reg'd business. Would I do it on a personal lease w/o the tax breaks ? Probably not, I'd have just hung on to our 6 year old 230 tsi Tiguan.
I like nearly everything about the car. It is easily fast enough, in town or on motorway. Slightly faster than that Tiguan, the sense of massive low down torque overcoming massive weight, and the smoothness, feels more like an M440i for the first few seconds, does 270-280 miles in real world mixed driving in the summer if driving smoothly but keeping up with the traffic, it's very refined apart from a bit of tyre noise and some rear thump over potholes, interior is as good as anything you'll find in VW group currently, steering is quick, precise, but fairly numb.
The user interface is a lot better than on say the early ID3's but still not perfect. Too much assigned to the touchscreen, you can assign a shortcut to lane assist but it still takes at least 2 taps to switch it off each time which is a distraction if you're already on the move, no way to permanently defeat, no single physical button to assign to. But the screen is responsive and moves through menus quickly, wireless android auto works pretty faultlessly, audio quality is pretty good for VW, somewhere around BMW Hi-Fi on a G20 or G30 maybe ?
Only other gripe is a spongy brake pedal. Quite a lot of travel and effort before you push beyond max regen into actual pad on disc. Just about used to it now but still don't like it.
In terms of money, for me, no question, this was worth doing. It was about £270 plus VAT for 10k miles 12+23. Free metallic. Latest tech deck facelift, Sportline is v high spec now: area view, HUD, Canton audio etc. Cars already built, no additional options, but there was nothing more I would have wanted anyway. I own a VAT reg'd business. Would I do it on a personal lease w/o the tax breaks ? Probably not, I'd have just hung on to our 6 year old 230 tsi Tiguan.
I like nearly everything about the car. It is easily fast enough, in town or on motorway. Slightly faster than that Tiguan, the sense of massive low down torque overcoming massive weight, and the smoothness, feels more like an M440i for the first few seconds, does 270-280 miles in real world mixed driving in the summer if driving smoothly but keeping up with the traffic, it's very refined apart from a bit of tyre noise and some rear thump over potholes, interior is as good as anything you'll find in VW group currently, steering is quick, precise, but fairly numb.
The user interface is a lot better than on say the early ID3's but still not perfect. Too much assigned to the touchscreen, you can assign a shortcut to lane assist but it still takes at least 2 taps to switch it off each time which is a distraction if you're already on the move, no way to permanently defeat, no single physical button to assign to. But the screen is responsive and moves through menus quickly, wireless android auto works pretty faultlessly, audio quality is pretty good for VW, somewhere around BMW Hi-Fi on a G20 or G30 maybe ?
Only other gripe is a spongy brake pedal. Quite a lot of travel and effort before you push beyond max regen into actual pad on disc. Just about used to it now but still don't like it.
Probably similar pattern of use to you as well.
There's just one journey I have to do every few weeks down the M5 that might need a fast charge. I haven't bothered mastering all the details of all the networks and their prices and the apps and so on, I've just set up the Tesla app and starred on Google maps the Tesla superchargers at John Lewis at Cribbs Causeway, usually not very busy, car is charging at about 140kw within a minute of turning up, and I just go for a pee and a bite to eat in their cafe.
Not even bothering to install a wall charger yet. Bought a Masterplug slow charger off amazon, £140, that adds about 7 miles per hour, 8+ hours of that is easily enough for me. I just checked the state of the wiring to, and inside, my chosen wall socket very carefully before first use...
There's just one journey I have to do every few weeks down the M5 that might need a fast charge. I haven't bothered mastering all the details of all the networks and their prices and the apps and so on, I've just set up the Tesla app and starred on Google maps the Tesla superchargers at John Lewis at Cribbs Causeway, usually not very busy, car is charging at about 140kw within a minute of turning up, and I just go for a pee and a bite to eat in their cafe.
Not even bothering to install a wall charger yet. Bought a Masterplug slow charger off amazon, £140, that adds about 7 miles per hour, 8+ hours of that is easily enough for me. I just checked the state of the wiring to, and inside, my chosen wall socket very carefully before first use...
We are into year 4 of ownership. Generally it's been all good news. We have the iv80, 77kwh battery and get about 280-300 miles, the worst we saw was 240 in the winter. A very solid car, that feels good quality.
The only issue we have had is it losing connection with Octopus on IOG. We could still charge it, but had to schedule it ourselves, which meant only the 23.30-05.30 slot. It magically fixed itself after about a week, though.
The only issue we have had is it losing connection with Octopus on IOG. We could still charge it, but had to schedule it ourselves, which meant only the 23.30-05.30 slot. It magically fixed itself after about a week, though.
Have a 2023 vrs enyaq. Really good car. Comfy, roomy and still one of the biggest boots for midsize SUV.
200 miles in winter (if driven carefully) 250+ easy in summer but I understand the newer cars are a bit more efficient.
The infotainment is fine if a bit frustrating at times.
Mines done 22k miles on its original tyres and servicing is only every 2 years.
Drives nicely, a bit fidgety at times but nothing crazy, it's a wide car so watch out for tight parking spaces.
As it's big and comfy feeling of speed is deceptive, it's pretty quick but it doesn't really feel it. Huge grip levels.
Not super exciting but works well and a great family car...
200 miles in winter (if driven carefully) 250+ easy in summer but I understand the newer cars are a bit more efficient.
The infotainment is fine if a bit frustrating at times.
Mines done 22k miles on its original tyres and servicing is only every 2 years.
Drives nicely, a bit fidgety at times but nothing crazy, it's a wide car so watch out for tight parking spaces.
As it's big and comfy feeling of speed is deceptive, it's pretty quick but it doesn't really feel it. Huge grip levels.
Not super exciting but works well and a great family car...
I also have a Jan 24 Enyaq 80, bought @ 9 months old. A good spec, 5k miles,cognac leather & sunroof, lots of extras, was under £30k from main dealer incl 2 free ‘services’
My 3rd Skoda in a row, loving it!
Fast enough, very comfortable on our terrible roads, big inside. Boot is marginally smaller than the Superb which it replaced. I know that as I tried to used the Superbs boot liner, was about 4” too long for the Enyaq..
Zero problems to date, almost a year in. I plan to keep it long term.
The worst range i’ve seen is around 250 miles in the coldest weather (if 100% to 0% which nobody does of course).
Currently would do over 300 miles

The tech is fine, I use carplay though as I prefer Waze & Abrp nav.
Only public charged a few times, Octopus IOG & Ohme charger at home. I just tell Ohme how many % to add, it’s never missed a beat.
Mine wasn’t prone to luxury car tax & I strategically taxed it, so free until next March.
If buying new now?, I would consider the Elroq as that should avoid the higher luxury tax & may also get the Government discount if under £37k new.
I believe nigh on identical, slightly smaller boot.
My 3rd Skoda in a row, loving it!
Fast enough, very comfortable on our terrible roads, big inside. Boot is marginally smaller than the Superb which it replaced. I know that as I tried to used the Superbs boot liner, was about 4” too long for the Enyaq..
Zero problems to date, almost a year in. I plan to keep it long term.
The worst range i’ve seen is around 250 miles in the coldest weather (if 100% to 0% which nobody does of course).
Currently would do over 300 miles
The tech is fine, I use carplay though as I prefer Waze & Abrp nav.
Only public charged a few times, Octopus IOG & Ohme charger at home. I just tell Ohme how many % to add, it’s never missed a beat.
Mine wasn’t prone to luxury car tax & I strategically taxed it, so free until next March.
If buying new now?, I would consider the Elroq as that should avoid the higher luxury tax & may also get the Government discount if under £37k new.
I believe nigh on identical, slightly smaller boot.
Yes, elroq is the same except:
- Slightly smaller boot with different storage arrangements, eg shelves on sides, solid boot cover
- Lower spec for same spec name, eg Sportline on elroq needs "advanced package" added to match Enyaq spec (HUD, canton, area view, maybe a few other things)
If you adjust for spec, the price difference is maybe £3k, but it is much easier to get under the £40k mark, and I imagine Skoda will further adjust the price of the cheapest 77(82)kwh version so that all non vrs models qualify for the new grant, so the difference in your pocket, if buying, will be much greater.
I suspect Skoda won't sell any elroqs until the grant position is clear, and after that they will sell huge numbers of those and hardly any Enyaqs...
- Slightly smaller boot with different storage arrangements, eg shelves on sides, solid boot cover
- Lower spec for same spec name, eg Sportline on elroq needs "advanced package" added to match Enyaq spec (HUD, canton, area view, maybe a few other things)
If you adjust for spec, the price difference is maybe £3k, but it is much easier to get under the £40k mark, and I imagine Skoda will further adjust the price of the cheapest 77(82)kwh version so that all non vrs models qualify for the new grant, so the difference in your pocket, if buying, will be much greater.
I suspect Skoda won't sell any elroqs until the grant position is clear, and after that they will sell huge numbers of those and hardly any Enyaqs...
occasionalranter said:
Yes, elroq is the same except:
- Slightly smaller boot with different storage arrangements, eg shelves on sides, solid boot cover
- Lower spec for same spec name, eg Sportline on elroq needs "advanced package" added to match Enyaq spec (HUD, canton, area view, maybe a few other things)
If you adjust for spec, the price difference is maybe £3k, but it is much easier to get under the £40k mark, and I imagine Skoda will further adjust the price of the cheapest 77(82)kwh version so that all non vrs models qualify for the new grant, so the difference in your pocket, if buying, will be much greater.
I suspect Skoda won't sell any elroqs until the grant position is clear, and after that they will sell huge numbers of those and hardly any Enyaqs...
I'm expecting them to release an SE 85 or SE L 85 on this train of thought. Get the 85 battery and 210kW entry under the £37,000 barrier so they can all access grants (assuming Skoda are eligible...)- Slightly smaller boot with different storage arrangements, eg shelves on sides, solid boot cover
- Lower spec for same spec name, eg Sportline on elroq needs "advanced package" added to match Enyaq spec (HUD, canton, area view, maybe a few other things)
If you adjust for spec, the price difference is maybe £3k, but it is much easier to get under the £40k mark, and I imagine Skoda will further adjust the price of the cheapest 77(82)kwh version so that all non vrs models qualify for the new grant, so the difference in your pocket, if buying, will be much greater.
I suspect Skoda won't sell any elroqs until the grant position is clear, and after that they will sell huge numbers of those and hardly any Enyaqs...
That would be very attractive. Drivethedeal offer £6k off the £38.6k Edition 85 / 210kw already. If an SE L version listed at £36,990 and got £6k discount plus at least some of the grant actually feeding through rather than just eating away that discount, maybe we're looking at £28-29k ?
But if I have a company / can do salary sacrifice, I think I'm still just going to pick whichever Elroq or Enyaq has the sweetest lease deal. Residual values still a bit of a worry...
But if I have a company / can do salary sacrifice, I think I'm still just going to pick whichever Elroq or Enyaq has the sweetest lease deal. Residual values still a bit of a worry...
occasionalranter said:
Hi, yes, about 4 weeks into a 2 year business lease deal on an 85x Sportline.
Only other gripe is a spongy brake pedal. Quite a lot of travel and effort before you push beyond max regen into actual pad on disc. Just about used to it now but still don't like it.
I test drove a Seat Tavascan last week and the brakes had a similar feeling in that. It drove nicely but the styling is definitely aimed at a younger audience. Immediately after the test drive we walked over to the Skoda showroom, and the Enyaq looked like a much nicer place to be.Only other gripe is a spongy brake pedal. Quite a lot of travel and effort before you push beyond max regen into actual pad on disc. Just about used to it now but still don't like it.
occasionalranter said:
But if I have a company / can do salary sacrifice, I think I'm still just going to pick whichever Elroq or Enyaq has the sweetest lease deal. Residual values still a bit of a worry...
I'll be leasing if i go for it. Currently about to fist the proverbial on a deal for a VRS Coupe that would cost around £12k over 2 years and 10k miles per year. Much cheaper than current PCP's and looking at current 2nd hand prices they go from a list price of around £50k to a selling price of around £30k at 2 years old.... I can't imagine there's too many deals reducing the list price of the facelift model yetoccasionalranter said:
Hi, yes, about 4 weeks into a 2 year business lease deal on an 85x Sportline.
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The user interface is a lot better than on say the early ID3's but still not perfect. Too much assigned to the touchscreen, you can assign a shortcut to lane assist but it still takes at least 2 taps to switch it off each time which is a distraction if you're already on the move, no way to permanently defeat, no single physical button to assign to. But the screen is responsive and moves through menus quickly, wireless android auto works pretty faultlessly, audio quality is pretty good for VW, somewhere around BMW Hi-Fi on a G20 or G30 maybe ?
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I read somewhere that after 2024 the single press cancellation of driver aids is banned and it now has to be at least two presses/screens.snip.
The user interface is a lot better than on say the early ID3's but still not perfect. Too much assigned to the touchscreen, you can assign a shortcut to lane assist but it still takes at least 2 taps to switch it off each time which is a distraction if you're already on the move, no way to permanently defeat, no single physical button to assign to. But the screen is responsive and moves through menus quickly, wireless android auto works pretty faultlessly, audio quality is pretty good for VW, somewhere around BMW Hi-Fi on a G20 or G30 maybe ?
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