Women's sport vs Men's sport - which is best...
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I guess have to ask why the question? For me I don’t look at it like that. I can watch both. In golf for instance I prefer watching the women because they are so bloody good. In cricket I love to see the continuous improvement. I fundamentally believe you watch men or women for what they are in each sport and I can appreciate that. Better or best doesn’t come into it. I also like watching the men in both those sports. I know it doesn’t really answer your question.
PhilkSVR said:
I guess have to ask why the question? For me I don t look at it like that. I can watch both. In golf for instance I prefer watching the women because they are so bloody good. In cricket I love to see the continuous improvement. I fundamentally believe you watch men or women for what they are in each sport and I can appreciate that. Better or best doesn t come into it. I also like watching the men in both those sports. I know it doesn t really answer your question.
I don't watch a lot of sport, but in tennis I prefer the womens game over 3 sets. They need to get out of the blocks quicker, and winning the 1st set is more crucial than the mens being played, best of 5. rjfp1962 said:
I don't watch a lot of sport, but in tennis I prefer the womens game over 3 sets. They need to get out of the blocks quicker, and winning the 1st set is more crucial than the mens being played, best of 5.
I was thinking of Tennis when I asked does it have to be either/or.If Wimbledon is on chances are there will be a women's and a mens match playing at the same time.
I won't watch one purely because it's the mens or the women's it very much depends who is playing.
Just feels like it should be a "it depends" one mostly
Back in the 90s men’s tennis was regularly slated as high power serves meant that rallies were short and breaks of serve were rare, while women’s tennis was more interesting and varied therefore more fun to watch. The Williams era may have changed that, no idea what view people might have of today’s games.
My female friend described women’s football as like decaffeinated coffee, same taste but a lot less punch.
I watch Phily Bowden’s running channel on YouTube as she is a unique personality on a becoming-elite athlete’s body, great entertainment and insights.
There might be a gap between sports where power and brute speed is paramount (hence some might find women’s football not as exhilarating) whereas sports like volleyball and badminton there’s probably not a lot in it.
Bring back Rhona and the f
king curling, that’s what I say.
My female friend described women’s football as like decaffeinated coffee, same taste but a lot less punch.
I watch Phily Bowden’s running channel on YouTube as she is a unique personality on a becoming-elite athlete’s body, great entertainment and insights.
There might be a gap between sports where power and brute speed is paramount (hence some might find women’s football not as exhilarating) whereas sports like volleyball and badminton there’s probably not a lot in it.
Bring back Rhona and the f
king curling, that’s what I say.For whatever reason I watch no women's sport, I don't have time or interest to double up.
I mainly watch motorsport, and has had equality since the 80s really, there are efforts made to set up women only stuff, but I don't watch it.
Part of the reason in some sports is the high pitched screeching, tennis grunts, being forced to listen to female commentators in men's sport to ram equality down my throat.
But I genuinely have zero interest in women's sport
I mainly watch motorsport, and has had equality since the 80s really, there are efforts made to set up women only stuff, but I don't watch it.
Part of the reason in some sports is the high pitched screeching, tennis grunts, being forced to listen to female commentators in men's sport to ram equality down my throat.
But I genuinely have zero interest in women's sport
ScotHill said:
There might be a gap between sports where power and brute speed is paramount (hence some might find women s football not as exhilarating) whereas sports like volleyball and badminton there s probably not a lot in it.
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Many say that women's beach volleyball is the pinnacle of sporting entertainment .
More seriously I will watch women's sports when it offers something different to the men and is very interesting in its own right. Tennis is a great example as it is still less dominated by the serve in the women's game (though there used to be an even greater difference back in the 1990s and the women's game has become more power dominated since).
Women's gymnastics is another example and ice skating. In fact I would say that gymnastics really gets it and the women's events demonstrate grace and agility and the men's events have far more of strength focus.
What I will not bother with is just doing the same thing as the men, but worse because they don't have the same size, strength or coordination. A number of Olympic events is an honourable exception to this as it is the Olympics.
In terms of wider societal impacts it is great if there are things that encourage girls into sports as they don't do as much as the boys. So great that there is so much media coverage of the lionesses. It may not be my thing but you have to recognise the social benefit.
Edited by JagLover on Wednesday 30th July 07:38
When we go to the rugby at Northampton they sometimes do the women’s game after the Mens so we hang round and watch, I find the women’s rugby has quite a decent skill level and is a fairly open game so can be a decent watch,
When you look at the players there isn’t as big a mismatch in size terms so it’s not like in the mens game where you have 120kg units smashing into defences, so it’s more evenly matched,
I don’t have the answer but I think where they fall down is they use the exact same rules, an 80 minute game is maybe too long as you see how tired the men are, in a physical game women aren’t built the same so maybe look at how long the game is?
When you look at the players there isn’t as big a mismatch in size terms so it’s not like in the mens game where you have 120kg units smashing into defences, so it’s more evenly matched,
I don’t have the answer but I think where they fall down is they use the exact same rules, an 80 minute game is maybe too long as you see how tired the men are, in a physical game women aren’t built the same so maybe look at how long the game is?
bergclimber34 said:
For whatever reason I watch no women's sport, I don't have time or interest to double up.
I mainly watch motorsport, and has had equality since the 80s really, there are efforts made to set up women only stuff, but I don't watch it.
Part of the reason in some sports is the high pitched screeching, tennis grunts, being forced to listen to female commentators in men's sport to ram equality down my throat.
But I genuinely have zero interest in women's sport
If you were watching the Olympics, would you watch men's athletics or swimming but not be interested in the women's events? Though perhaps you'd not watch either since you say you mainly watch motorsport?I mainly watch motorsport, and has had equality since the 80s really, there are efforts made to set up women only stuff, but I don't watch it.
Part of the reason in some sports is the high pitched screeching, tennis grunts, being forced to listen to female commentators in men's sport to ram equality down my throat.
But I genuinely have zero interest in women's sport
In terms of football, if it's Chelsea or England, I'll watch and support, and I'll enjoy it as i have a vested interest in my side winning. Men, women, under 10's, doesn't bother me, they'll have my support and I'll enjoy watching.
I'm not that fussed about other sports, men or women, unless it's a big event like an Olympic final. Then I'm happy to watch, Kelly Holmes, Mo Farah, whoever is English will have my support and I'll enjoy watching it.
I'm not that fussed about other sports, men or women, unless it's a big event like an Olympic final. Then I'm happy to watch, Kelly Holmes, Mo Farah, whoever is English will have my support and I'll enjoy watching it.
Some women’s sports would benefit from changing the pitch/playing area to suit them better. e.g. in cricket matches the boundary is smaller to allow sixes and fours to be hit. They could also do with shortening the wicket by a couple of yards to make pace bowling more of a threat. The size of a football pitch and the goal has come about over decades of men playing football…why are women playing on the same size pitches and goals. A women’s goalkeeper just doesn’t have the same athletic ability/reach as a man.
Cheib said:
Some women’s sports would benefit from changing the pitch/playing area to suit them better. e.g. in cricket matches the boundary is smaller to allow sixes and fours to be hit. They could also do with shortening the wicket by a couple of yards to make pace bowling more of a threat. The size of a football pitch and the goal has come about over decades of men playing football…why are women playing on the same size pitches and goals. A women’s goalkeeper just doesn’t have the same athletic ability/reach as a man.
I wouldn't dare to be the one to put forward that idea...MontyPythonX said:
Cheib said:
Some women’s sports would benefit from changing the pitch/playing area to suit them better. e.g. in cricket matches the boundary is smaller to allow sixes and fours to be hit. They could also do with shortening the wicket by a couple of yards to make pace bowling more of a threat. The size of a football pitch and the goal has come about over decades of men playing football…why are women playing on the same size pitches and goals. A women’s goalkeeper just doesn’t have the same athletic ability/reach as a man.
I wouldn't dare to be the one to put forward that idea...Glassman said:
MontyPythonX said:
Cheib said:
Some women’s sports would benefit from changing the pitch/playing area to suit them better. e.g. in cricket matches the boundary is smaller to allow sixes and fours to be hit. They could also do with shortening the wicket by a couple of yards to make pace bowling more of a threat. The size of a football pitch and the goal has come about over decades of men playing football…why are women playing on the same size pitches and goals. A women’s goalkeeper just doesn’t have the same athletic ability/reach as a man.
I wouldn't dare to be the one to put forward that idea...In cricket they use a different ball(smaller) and reduce the boundary size. Shortening the length of the pitch does present issues. The Women’s game has benefitted massively by playing on the major grounds, Oval, Lords etc, shortening the length of the pitch affects the square and in my view is impractical. The Women are doing fine and will continue to improve and evolve naturally without that particular change in my view. We already have a woman bowling over 80 mph, that’s quick by any standard on a current length of pitch. If they grow up that way they get used to it and adapt.
Fair point about shorter wickets disrupting the major grounds but clubs could easily deal with it as they do for age group cricket for both boys and girls. Some clubs use spring back stumps to avoid holes in the wicket. Elite women might bowl at 80 mph but women’s club cricketers definitely don’t and they’re playing on 22 yard pitches. It would make women’s club cricket a better game as there would be more pace on the ball….easier to hit to the boundary.
Football clubs all over the country have different size pitches and goals for youth football so I’d say that could use those for the women’s football at an amateur level.
Football clubs all over the country have different size pitches and goals for youth football so I’d say that could use those for the women’s football at an amateur level.
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