Original Fiat Panda Dash - Genius
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Somewhatfoolish

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4,893 posts

202 months

Wednesday 30th July
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I was idly looking to see how much an original Fiat Panda is and saw the above photo and thought the warning light panel is genius and I've never seen one like that before. It clearly manages to convey which side of the car the fuel filler is and (if it had had front fogs or front heated windscreen - it doesn't but you can imagine) which of the symbols means front and which means rear which is imo not intuitively obvious. Also if you didn't know what the oil pressure or battery lights meant their positioning again would make it super obvious this was serious.

Just thought I'd share as this is very clever.

RECr

490 posts

67 months

Wednesday 30th July
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Early 90s Escort had similar on models with no rev counter.

biggbn

27,274 posts

236 months

Wednesday 30th July
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One of my favourite designs the original Panda, and Giugiaro's favourite which says a lot....

Squadrone Rosso

3,245 posts

163 months

Wednesday 30th July
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My wife’s first car. Brilliantly simple.


Mr Peel

567 posts

138 months

Wednesday 30th July
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Inside and out, the original Panda is a classic of industrial design.

As an aside, I only recently found out Italian buyers were offered the air-cooled engine from the 126 in early versions.

supacool1

698 posts

195 months

Wednesday 30th July
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Squadrone Rosso said:
My wife s first car. Brilliantly simple.

Amazing! And it's the 4x4 too!

carinaman

23,274 posts

188 months

Wednesday 30th July
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Squadrone Rosso said:
My wife s first car. Brilliantly simple.

I hope you're both well! An ex had an original Panda.

jet_noise

5,916 posts

198 months

Wednesday 30th July
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Somewhatfoolish said:


I was idly looking to see how much an original Fiat Panda is and saw the above photo and thought the warning light panel is genius and I've never seen one like that before. It clearly manages to convey which side of the car the fuel filler is and (if it had had front fogs or front heated windscreen - it doesn't but you can imagine) which of the symbols means front and which means rear which is imo not intuitively obvious. Also if you didn't know what the oil pressure or battery lights meant their positioning again would make it super obvious this was serious.

Just thought I'd share as this is very clever.
Be even more so if the car outline was portrait oriented rather than landscape. I can understand why it is landscape as that is the proportion of the space. A very early version of the mobile phone picture orientation conundrum if you will smile

AlexIT

1,664 posts

154 months

Wednesday 30th July
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Mr Peel said:
As an aside, I only recently found out Italian buyers were offered the air-cooled engine from the 126 in early versions.
Yep, the Panda 30 (indicating the HP output of the 2-cylinder engine) which was launched at the same time as the Panda 45, fitted with the 903 cm3 watercooled 4-cylinder engine of the 127.

They were the only 2 versions available at launch over here in 1980.

biggbn

27,274 posts

236 months

Wednesday 30th July
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I had two or three of them but the one I loved the most was an absolutely utilitarian 750L with the four speed, no carpet and the hammock style rear seat. I LOVED that car. Flat out everywhere all the time

InitialDave

13,355 posts

135 months

Wednesday 30th July
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I do love the original Panda, they're fantastic cars, in particular the post-85 ones with the FIRE engine.

Also loads of little touches that are stupidly simple, but weren't implemented on many cars until a long time afterwards, like not being possible to accidentally lock your keys in, or leave the headlights on.

Pit Pony

10,192 posts

137 months

Wednesday 30th July
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supacool1 said:
Squadrone Rosso said:
My wife s first car. Brilliantly simple.

Amazing! And it's the 4x4 too!
Was it Puch that did the system and is it chain driven.

DannyScene

7,306 posts

171 months

Wednesday 30th July
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I worked for a FIAT main dealer between 2019 and 2022, unfortunately the panda dash seems to be the last decent thing the company ever did

J4CKO

44,485 posts

216 months

Wednesday 30th July
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In Greece at the moment and have seen a couple of very battered ones, still in daily use by the looks of it, funny as in UK they lasted about three years before going crusty.

Somewhatfoolish

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4,893 posts

202 months

Wednesday 30th July
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J4CKO said:
In Greece at the moment and have seen a couple of very battered ones, still in daily use by the looks of it, funny as in UK they lasted about three years before going crusty.
Yes and I can't find any for a price I'd be willing to pay, I wanted to pay banger prices for a disposable one. Guess those ones have already been trashed by the scrappage scheme or just rust.

InitialDave

13,355 posts

135 months

Wednesday 30th July
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Pit Pony said:
Was it Puch that did the system and is it chain driven.
Yep, Steyr-Puch, but not chain driven.

There's a normal transverse final drive down to the diff, then the diff also has a bevel gear onto it driving out the back of the diff case, where a lever operated dog clutch sends power down a prop to live axle.

It's a really good system, with the 4x4 engaged they drive like nothing else on a snowy road, and about the only thjng that stops one off road is the lack of ground clearance.



Edited by InitialDave on Wednesday 30th July 16:06

lancslad58

1,348 posts

24 months

Wednesday 30th July
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Somewhatfoolish said:
J4CKO said:
In Greece at the moment and have seen a couple of very battered ones, still in daily use by the looks of it, funny as in UK they lasted about three years before going crusty.
Yes and I can't find any for a price I'd be willing to pay, I wanted to pay banger prices for a disposable one. Guess those ones have already been trashed by the scrappage scheme or just rust.
How much you want to pay , £2499 , £3600......


https://www.carandclassic.com/search?country%5B0%5...


Somewhatfoolish

Original Poster:

4,893 posts

202 months

Wednesday 30th July
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lancslad58 said:
Somewhatfoolish said:
J4CKO said:
In Greece at the moment and have seen a couple of very battered ones, still in daily use by the looks of it, funny as in UK they lasted about three years before going crusty.
Yes and I can't find any for a price I'd be willing to pay, I wanted to pay banger prices for a disposable one. Guess those ones have already been trashed by the scrappage scheme or just rust.
How much you want to pay , £2499 , £3600......


https://www.carandclassic.com/search?country%5B0%5...
3 figures. Proper banger cash smile

James P

3,015 posts

253 months

Wednesday 30th July
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biggbn said:
I had two or three of them but the one I loved the most was an absolutely utilitarian 750L with the four speed, no carpet and the hammock style rear seat. I LOVED that car. Flat out everywhere all the time
A 1986 750L was my first car in 1988. I ve now progressed to a 1996 900ie. Still no carpets but folding rear seats, a rear wiper and (gasp) a 5 speed gearbox.

Edit to add, western Sicily is full of series 1 Pandas, including a reasonable number of 30’s.


biggbn

27,274 posts

236 months

Wednesday 30th July
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James P said:
A 1986 750L was my first car in 1988. I ve now progressed to a 1996 900ie. Still no carpets but folding rear seats, a rear wiper and (gasp) a 5 speed gearbox.

Heaven!!