Spectator/Douglas Murray - 1 Lying YouTuber - 0
Spectator/Douglas Murray - 1 Lying YouTuber - 0
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Original Poster:

8,947 posts

152 months

Tuesday 5th August
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"For a long time, Mohammed Hijab has bullied the British press, threatening publications and outlets who crosses him with crushing lawsuits. The Spectator, rightly, did not bow to his pressure."


https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-spectator-...

gruffalo

7,897 posts

242 months

Tuesday 5th August
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Brilliant!

I do like The Spectator.


MrBogSmith

3,495 posts

50 months

Tuesday 5th August
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He thought poorly fabricated evidence would get past the judge….


Al Gorithum

4,616 posts

224 months

Tuesday 5th August
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I despise the Spectator but am pleased about this victory over the parasite.

BikeBikeBIke

11,955 posts

131 months

Tuesday 5th August
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"But messages that he relied on for these claims ‘have the appearance of being contrived for the purpose of these proceedings,’ the judge said. They addressed Hegab formally, despite coming from people who knew him well; they blamed the article; and they ‘provided material that would be necessary to support a claim for financial losses…when one might not generally expect such detail.’ They also arrived at ‘roughly the same time, which was several weeks after the article, but very shortly before a letter of claim was sent’."

Wow.

Yertis

19,181 posts

282 months

Tuesday 5th August
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Al Gorithum said:
I despise the Spectator but am pleased about this victory over the parasite.
Why is that? I've been considering subscribing but my reading time is already a bit stretched.

tim0409

5,303 posts

175 months

Tuesday 5th August
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Yertis said:
Al Gorithum said:
I despise the Spectator but am pleased about this victory over the parasite.
Why is that? I've been considering subscribing but my reading time is already a bit stretched.
I would seriously consider subscribing as there is a lot of very good journalism. It certainly kept me sane during the pandemic, as it constantly questioned the evidence for the governments increasingly batst crazy policies.

fizz47

2,957 posts

226 months

Tuesday 5th August
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The Spectator can hardly be considered an example of good journalism.

What it routinely offers is little more than opinion pieces masquerading as fact, often loaded with inflammatory rhetoric.

Writers like Douglas Murray are repeat offenders, known for peddling insensitive and divisive commentary on race, religion, and gender thinly veiled as thought-provoking analysis

The same individuals who churn out these so-called articles are often the first to cry foul when challenged or when the public discourse turns against them. They champion free speech until it no longer serves their agenda.

But like any other publication aligned with your views then people will always take it as fact and no different than articles on the other side of the spectrum.

ETA: no fan of the hijab fellow so not sticking up for him and his foolishness.

Edited by fizz47 on Tuesday 5th August 16:03

Gecko1978

11,558 posts

173 months

Tuesday 5th August
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Insensitive.....strange choice of words as often people say the truth hurts. As a criticism it's flawed. But I have no dog in the race just noted your criticism used that phrase.

mac96

5,174 posts

159 months

Tuesday 5th August
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So, is that the end? He seems to have faked evidence and lied to the court. Is that not perjury?

Yertis

19,181 posts

282 months

Tuesday 5th August
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fizz47 said:
The Spectator can hardly be considered an example of good journalism.

What it routinely offers is little more than opinion pieces masquerading as fact, often loaded with inflammatory rhetoric.

Writers like Douglas Murray are repeat offenders, known for peddling insensitive and divisive commentary on race, religion, and gender thinly veiled as thought-provoking analysis

The same individuals who churn out these so-called articles are often the first to cry foul when challenged or when the public discourse turns against them. They champion free speech until it no longer serves their agenda.

But like any other publication aligned with your views then people will always take it as fact and no different than articles on the other side of the spectrum.

ETA: no fan of the hijab fellow so not sticking up for him and his foolishness.

Edited by fizz47 on Tuesday 5th August 16:03
Hmmmm… How does it compare with say ‘Spiked’ or ‘Unherd’?

BikeBikeBIke

11,955 posts

131 months

Tuesday 5th August
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fizz47 said:
The Spectator can hardly be considered an example of good journalism.
So between the Spectator and New Statesman which would you regard as "best"?

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Original Poster:

8,947 posts

152 months

Thursday 7th August
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Another gem from Douglas Murray.

Apart from the witnesses who failed to apear for Hijab - having become too ill or having left the country - another witness - "Mr Wasway from Nature’s Blends – had to try to explain his recent conviction and time spent in prison for making false court claims after staging car accidents."


Quality!

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/my-victory-ove...

Oilchange

9,298 posts

276 months

Thursday 7th August
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Great result, I like Murray

ChocolateFrog

32,236 posts

189 months

Thursday 7th August
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BikeBikeBIke said:
"But messages that he relied on for these claims ‘have the appearance of being contrived for the purpose of these proceedings,’ the judge said. They addressed Hegab formally, despite coming from people who knew him well; they blamed the article; and they ‘provided material that would be necessary to support a claim for financial losses…when one might not generally expect such detail.’ They also arrived at ‘roughly the same time, which was several weeks after the article, but very shortly before a letter of claim was sent’."

Wow.
That was the bit that stood out for me.

Surely that is criminal in itself? And deserves more than 'just' being called out by the judge.

It's fraud isn't it?.

KAgantua

4,731 posts

147 months

Thursday 7th August
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fizz47 said:
The Spectator can hardly be considered an example of good journalism.

What it routinely offers is little more than opinion pieces masquerading as fact, often loaded with inflammatory rhetoric.

Writers like Douglas Murray are repeat offenders, known for peddling insensitive and divisive commentary on race, religion, and gender thinly veiled as thought-provoking analysis

The same individuals who churn out these so-called articles are often the first to cry foul when challenged or when the public discourse turns against them. They champion free speech until it no longer serves their agenda.

But like any other publication aligned with your views then people will always take it as fact and no different than articles on the other side of the spectrum.

ETA: no fan of the hijab fellow so not sticking up for him and his foolishness.

Edited by fizz47 on Tuesday 5th August 16:03
Yawn, bored of posting on the Israeli thread then?