Led Zeppelin Documentary
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TwigtheWonderkid

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46,724 posts

167 months

Sunday 10th August
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I'm sure this isn't going to be popular but here goes.

Watched the 2hr+ documentary on Sky last night. Very interesting stuff but......god the music was dire. I was genuinely amazed to learn that all 4 of them were highly accomplished musicians before Led Zep, yet managed to produce such turgid, self indulgent tripe.

Thank god for the fast forward button, allowing me to ignore the music and just listen to them talking. At one point they played a 15 min live version of Dazed and Confused. I tell you, without the fast forward button, I would have been opening up my wrists.

Even great stuff like Whole Lotta Love, with that fabulous riff that Top of The Pops used for decades, was completely ruined by Jimmy Page's experimental nonsense.

Yes guys, we know you're fabulous musicians, but no need to have to demonstrate it with ridiculous solos in every effing track.

I think if Led Zep did Whole Lotta Love, in the style of The Cure's Boys Don't Cry, got on stage, bashed it out in 2min30, and fked off again, it would be so much better.

You look at punk a few years later, musicians with a fraction of the talent, who bashed out songs in under 3 mins, managed to produce for more exciting music.

My verdict, Led Zep, such a waste of talent.

(I'm sure the 3 surviving members will be devastated if they read this hehe)


Panamax

6,723 posts

51 months

Sunday 10th August
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The Song Remains The Same

Warhavernet

261 posts

4 months

Sunday 10th August
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Was that the doc that faded out only at their second album ? man, they had still their best stuff to come.


Sharp Bend

337 posts

3 months

Sunday 10th August
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
I'm sure this isn't going to be popular but here goes.

Watched the 2hr+ documentary on Sky last night. Very interesting stuff but......god the music was dire. I was genuinely amazed to learn that all 4 of them were highly accomplished musicians before Led Zep, yet managed to produce such turgid, self indulgent tripe.

Thank god for the fast forward button, allowing me to ignore the music and just listen to them talking. At one point they played a 15 min live version of Dazed and Confused. I tell you, without the fast forward button, I would have been opening up my wrists.

Even great stuff like Whole Lotta Love, with that fabulous riff that Top of The Pops used for decades, was completely ruined by Jimmy Page's experimental nonsense.

Yes guys, we know you're fabulous musicians, but no need to have to demonstrate it with ridiculous solos in every effing track.

I think if Led Zep did Whole Lotta Love, in the style of The Cure's Boys Don't Cry, got on stage, bashed it out in 2min30, and fked off again, it would be so much better.

You look at punk a few years later, musicians with a fraction of the talent, who bashed out songs in under 3 mins, managed to produce for more exciting music.

My verdict, Led Zep, such a waste of talent.

(I'm sure the 3 surviving members will be devastated if they read this hehe)
You Shook Me with that post.

Super Sonic

10,123 posts

71 months

Sunday 10th August
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Have you heard the Yardbirds version of Dazed & Confused? That also has the jammy bit in the middle. The theme tune to totp wasn't done by LZ.

TwigtheWonderkid

Original Poster:

46,724 posts

167 months

Sunday 10th August
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Warhavernet said:
Was that the doc that faded out only at their second album ? man, they had still their best stuff to come.

Well it couldn't have got any worse rofl

Warhavernet

261 posts

4 months

Sunday 10th August
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Super Sonic said:
Have you heard the Yardbirds version of Dazed & Confused? That also has the jammy bit in the middle. The theme tune to totp wasn't done by LZ.
A number of bands at that time were experimenting with turgid, longer live versions of short album tracks, Floyd Cream, Iron Butterfly, The Who, Mountain, Humble Pie filled an entire side of a LP with one track.

It also pleased the fans, instead of a 40 minute set by their fave band doing all the hits they got a two hour set.

cherryowen

12,197 posts

221 months

Sunday 10th August
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
My verdict, Led Zep, such a waste of talent.
My verdict, having listened to pretty much all of Zep's output, and played what I can of Page's guitar lines over the last 30-odd years is that you're full of st.

If you are a group of talented musicians, you explore all genres from rock to blues to folk to jazz which is what LZ did. If, as a group, you have the ability to compose something like "Ten Years Gone" (for example) then you aren't going to waste your time writing a 3 minute thrash using 3 cowboy chords.

Panamax

6,723 posts

51 months

Sunday 10th August
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Sharp Bend said:
You Shook Me with that post.
All night long.

Wacky Racer

39,970 posts

264 months

Sunday 10th August
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I've been to around thirty concerts since 1970 including (Page/Plant, The Firm etc) visited around ten of their homes they have lived in over the years, including Bron yr aur cottage in Wales, and have a huge record and book collection.

However, I'm not one of those fans that thinks the sun shines out of Page and Plant's arses, many gigs have been under par, where Jimmy wanders off on one of his extended guitar solos.....

I did enjoy the recent film, it was interesting hearing John Bonham's thoughts on tape at that time,


Wacky Racer

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264 months

Sunday 10th August
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Super Sonic

10,123 posts

71 months

Monday 11th August
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Panamax said:
Sharp Bend said:
You Shook Me with that post.
All night long.
How many more puns?

Panamax

6,723 posts

51 months

Monday 11th August
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Super Sonic said:
Have you heard the Yardbirds version of Dazed & Confused?
I listened to that version for the first time this morning. To my taste a rather dull, straight blues compared with LZ's rock.

I've never agreed that LZ "stole" the blues. What they did ws more like an early version of what later became known as "sampling" and about which copyright didn't really start getting mentioned until c.1990. Those original blues were "reinvented" as rock classics by LZ.

I found the first hour of the documentary interesting and will await what comes next. IMO the early LZ gave a solid foundation to what became known as rock.

Having said that, they also laid the foundations for unbelievably tedious, live solos including my greatest horror - the 10 minute drum solo. Aaaaargh! (No wonder Tommy Lee bought himself a roller coaster to lighten the tedium.)

Super Sonic

10,123 posts

71 months

Monday 11th August
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Super Sonic said:
Panamax said:
Sharp Bend said:
You Shook Me with that post.
All night long.
How many more puns?
Whole lotta puns.

TwigtheWonderkid

Original Poster:

46,724 posts

167 months

Monday 11th August
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cherryowen said:
My verdict, having listened to pretty much all of Zep's output, and played what I can of Page's guitar lines over the last 30-odd years is that you're full of st.

If you are a group of talented musicians, you explore all genres from rock to blues to folk to jazz which is what LZ did. If, as a group, you have the ability to compose something like "Ten Years Gone" (for example) then you aren't going to waste your time writing a 3 minute thrash using 3 cowboy chords.
Even if the 3 minute thrash actually sounds better?

Ever heard of "less is more". LZ certainly hadn't.

TwigtheWonderkid

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Monday 11th August
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Panamax said:
Having said that, they also laid the foundations for unbelievably tedious, live solos including my greatest horror - the 10 minute drum solo. Aaaaargh! (No wonder Tommy Lee bought himself a roller coaster to lighten the tedium.)
Yup, they were the forerunners of the ultimate dirge, prog rck. Some drugged up moron in a wizard's cape standing on a desolate hill surrounded by dry ice playing a 7 min guitar solo.

paulguitar

31,090 posts

130 months

Monday 11th August
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
I'm sure this isn't going to be popular but here goes.

Watched the 2hr+ documentary on Sky last night. Very interesting stuff but......god the music was dire. I was genuinely amazed to learn that all 4 of them were highly accomplished musicians before Led Zep, yet managed to produce such turgid, self indulgent tripe.

Thank god for the fast forward button, allowing me to ignore the music and just listen to them talking. At one point they played a 15 min live version of Dazed and Confused. I tell you, without the fast forward button, I would have been opening up my wrists.

Even great stuff like Whole Lotta Love, with that fabulous riff that Top of The Pops used for decades, was completely ruined by Jimmy Page's experimental nonsense.

Yes guys, we know you're fabulous musicians, but no need to have to demonstrate it with ridiculous solos in every effing track.

I think if Led Zep did Whole Lotta Love, in the style of The Cure's Boys Don't Cry, got on stage, bashed it out in 2min30, and fked off again, it would be so much better.

You look at punk a few years later, musicians with a fraction of the talent, who bashed out songs in under 3 mins, managed to produce for more exciting music.

My verdict, Led Zep, such a waste of talent.

(I'm sure the 3 surviving members will be devastated if they read this hehe)
Why not just listen to/watch documentaries about bands that you like?

Super Sonic

10,123 posts

71 months

Monday 11th August
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This is the thread you need.
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Lotobear

8,074 posts

145 months

Monday 11th August
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paulguitar said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I'm sure this isn't going to be popular but here goes.

Watched the 2hr+ documentary on Sky last night. Very interesting stuff but......god the music was dire. I was genuinely amazed to learn that all 4 of them were highly accomplished musicians before Led Zep, yet managed to produce such turgid, self indulgent tripe.

Thank god for the fast forward button, allowing me to ignore the music and just listen to them talking. At one point they played a 15 min live version of Dazed and Confused. I tell you, without the fast forward button, I would have been opening up my wrists.

Even great stuff like Whole Lotta Love, with that fabulous riff that Top of The Pops used for decades, was completely ruined by Jimmy Page's experimental nonsense.

Yes guys, we know you're fabulous musicians, but no need to have to demonstrate it with ridiculous solos in every effing track.

I think if Led Zep did Whole Lotta Love, in the style of The Cure's Boys Don't Cry, got on stage, bashed it out in 2min30, and fked off again, it would be so much better.

You look at punk a few years later, musicians with a fraction of the talent, who bashed out songs in under 3 mins, managed to produce for more exciting music.

My verdict, Led Zep, such a waste of talent.

(I'm sure the 3 surviving members will be devastated if they read this hehe)
Why not just listen to/watch documentaries about bands that you like?
. Twig idolises a bunch of middle class fake punks peddling fake reggae known as the clash. Nuff said really.

TwigtheWonderkid

Original Poster:

46,724 posts

167 months

Monday 11th August
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paulguitar said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I'm sure this isn't going to be popular but here goes.

Watched the 2hr+ documentary on Sky last night. Very interesting stuff but......god the music was dire. I was genuinely amazed to learn that all 4 of them were highly accomplished musicians before Led Zep, yet managed to produce such turgid, self indulgent tripe.

Thank god for the fast forward button, allowing me to ignore the music and just listen to them talking. At one point they played a 15 min live version of Dazed and Confused. I tell you, without the fast forward button, I would have been opening up my wrists.

Even great stuff like Whole Lotta Love, with that fabulous riff that Top of The Pops used for decades, was completely ruined by Jimmy Page's experimental nonsense.

Yes guys, we know you're fabulous musicians, but no need to have to demonstrate it with ridiculous solos in every effing track.

I think if Led Zep did Whole Lotta Love, in the style of The Cure's Boys Don't Cry, got on stage, bashed it out in 2min30, and fked off again, it would be so much better.

You look at punk a few years later, musicians with a fraction of the talent, who bashed out songs in under 3 mins, managed to produce for more exciting music.

My verdict, Led Zep, such a waste of talent.

(I'm sure the 3 surviving members will be devastated if they read this hehe)
Why not just listen to/watch documentaries about bands that you like?
That seems a very limited outlook on life, not wanting to know or learn more about anything that doesn't appeal to you. If everyone took that attitude, no one would make documentaries about wasps, for example.