Paris Blue 720s

[Am43]

Does anyone have any information/history of the below 720s currently for sale ?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2025060632...

Cheers

[Streetbeat]

Looks a nice example and looks to have the track pack which they dont mention specifically.

[Am43]

Streetbeat said:

Looks a nice example and looks to have the track pack which they dont mention specifically.

I know, i have managed to find some old adverts when it had no carbon rear wing and , no carbon paddle shifters , so it looks like someone has upgraded a few bits

[supersport]

Looks like strong money for a 2018 car.

A lovely colour.

[Zorbathegreek]

There’s something not quite right about the carbon fiber. The armadillo cover doesn’t have the McLaren signature V pattern and the carbon weave on other panels looks to be larger than OEM. Check with the dealership if they will guarantee authenticity of all parts fitted since it left the factory in addition to the original build spec (they can get the build spec using the VIN). There’s a lot of non-McLaren parts (usually chinese) out there. I’d also check if the seats and harness bar are OEM.

Get the VIN and work out the build date versus registration date. There’s several cars that have sat on forecourts and at McLaren HQ which seem younger than they actually are. I’ve seen cars that have had their logos changed from red logo to silver logo to coincide with the registration date.

It is being sold as an approved McLaren vehicle. One would expect it to be all genuine OEM, and if not, it should be disclosed during the sale process.

Another thing to note is the software version. Earlier 2017 and some 2018 cars cannot be updated to the latest software version - not backwards compatible - latest software version = SBM14DCC5KW003344


Edit: looks like the advert has been pulled. Did you buy it?

Edited by Zorbathegreek on Friday 15th August 18:26

[Streetbeat]

Zorbathegreek said:

There’s something not quite right about the carbon fiber. The armadillo cover doesn’t have the McLaren signature V pattern and the carbon weave on other panels looks to be larger than OEM. Check with the dealership if they will guarantee authenticity of all parts fitted since it left the factory in addition to the original build spec (they can get the build spec using the VIN). There’s a lot of non-McLaren parts (usually chinese) out there. I’d also check if the seats and harness bar are OEM.

Get the VIN and work out the build date versus registration date. There’s several cars that have sat on forecourts and at McLaren HQ which seem younger than they actually are. I’ve seen cars that have had their logos changed from red logo to silver logo to coincide with the registration date.

It is being sold as an approved McLaren vehicle. One would expect it to be all genuine OEM, and if not, it should be disclosed during the sale process.

Another thing to note is the software version. Earlier 2017 and some 2018 cars cannot be updated to the latest software version - not backwards compatible - latest software version = SBM14DCC5KW003344


Edit: looks like the advert has been pulled. Did you buy it?

Edited by Zorbathegreek on Friday 15th August 18:26

There are no fake p1 seats or harness bars (720s) available, so must be genuine.

What difference would replica carbon parts make to a Mclaren warranty?

[Zorbathegreek]

Streetbeat said:

There are no fake p1 seats or harness bars (720s) available, so must be genuine.

What difference would replica carbon parts make to a Mclaren warranty?

There are Chinese copy P1 seats (as well as Senna seats). There are harness bars made for the 720S by independent businesses based in UK.

I doubt replica carbon parts would make any difference to warranty, but if the OP is buying under the impression that they are genuine McLaren parts fitted (as part of track pack), that does make a difference. The OP was asking for some help on a particular sales advert. Someone inferred that it had been upgraded to track pack.

It is pretty easy to spot non-McLaren carbon fiber parts because they tend not to have the signature ‘V’ pattern and lack the McLaren quality. It’s a shame the advert has been pulled. The Armadillo was definitely not OEM. The bat wing fluid top-up cover wasn’t carbon fiber, which is unusual for a track-pack spec car.

IIRC, wasn’t the track pack only available from 2019 onwards. The car in the advert was 2018.

Edited by Zorbathegreek on Saturday 16th August 20:39

[br d]

I've had a Paris Blue 720, not this one though.

Great colour in the flesh, better than any pic of it.

[Streetbeat]

Zorbathegreek said:

There are Chinese copy P1 seats (as well as Senna seats). There are harness bars made for the 720S by independent businesses based in UK.

I doubt replica carbon parts would make any difference to warranty, but if the OP is buying under the impression that they are genuine McLaren parts fitted (as part of track pack), that does make a difference. The OP was asking for some help on a particular sales advert. Someone inferred that it had been upgraded to track pack.

It is pretty easy to spot non-McLaren carbon fiber parts because they tend not to have the signature ‘V’ pattern and lack the McLaren quality. It’s a shame the advert has been pulled. The Armadillo was definitely not OEM. The bat wing fluid top-up cover wasn’t carbon fiber, which is unusual for a track-pack spec car.

IIRC, wasn’t the track pack only available from 2019 onwards. The car in the advert was 2018.

Edited by Zorbathegreek on Saturday 16th August 20:39

Plenty of semna copies, never seen p1 copies or 720s harness bars that mimic the mso ones, happy to be corrected if you can supply links.

Officially yes but they were supplying the track pack as a package beforehand. The advert never stated they were oem carbon fibre, so as you say up to the buyer to decide whether its an issue, but it wont affect warranty which you said would present an issue.

Look forward to the links.

Edited by Streetbeat on Sunday 17th August 09:29

[Zorbathegreek]

Streetbeat said:

Plenty of semna copies, never seen p1 copies or 720s harness bars that mimic the mso ones, happy to be corrected if you can supply links.

Officially yes but they were supplying the track pack as a package beforehand. The advert never stated they were oem carbon fibre, so as you say up to the buyer to decide whether its an issue, but it wont affect warranty which you said would present an issue.

Look forward to the links.

Edited by Streetbeat on Sunday 17th August 09:29

Look pal, I’m simply responding to the OP who was asking for some advice on the advertised car. I’m not here to justify myself. Take it as you want. At no point had I mentioned anything to do with warranty.

BTW, I’m a 720S owner. I’ve had two since 2018, one of which is track pack, including sports exhaust, super lightweight P1 wheels, P1 seats (touring size), MSO harness bar, track telemetry system with three cameras and loads of carbon fiber.

[Streetbeat]

Zorbathegreek said:

Look pal, I’m simply responding to the OP who was asking for some advice on the advertised car. I’m not here to justify mysel.

You do have to justify yourself when your advise is wrong though "pal", no need to get bent of shape and defensive, if im wrong im happy to proved so and the OP receives the correct info.

[Frankychops]

Zorbathegreek said:

Streetbeat said:

There are no fake p1 seats or harness bars (720s) available, so must be genuine.

What difference would replica carbon parts make to a Mclaren warranty?

There are Chinese copy P1 seats (as well as Senna seats). There are harness bars made for the 720S by independent businesses based in UK.

I doubt replica carbon parts would make any difference to warranty, but if the OP is buying under the impression that they are genuine McLaren parts fitted (as part of track pack), that does make a difference. The OP was asking for some help on a particular sales advert. Someone inferred that it had been upgraded to track pack.

It is pretty easy to spot non-McLaren carbon fiber parts because they tend not to have the signature ‘V’ pattern and lack the McLaren quality. It’s a shame the advert has been pulled. The Armadillo was definitely not OEM. The bat wing fluid top-up cover wasn’t carbon fiber, which is unusual for a track-pack spec car.

IIRC, wasn’t the track pack only available from 2019 onwards. The car in the advert was 2018.

Edited by Zorbathegreek on Saturday 16th August 20:39

have you a like to the fake P1's? I've only seen Senna's

[Zorbathegreek]

Streetbeat said:

Zorbathegreek said:

Look pal, I’m simply responding to the OP who was asking for some advice on the advertised car. I’m not here to justify mysel.

You do have to justify yourself when your advise is wrong though "pal", no need to get bent of shape and defensive, if im wrong im happy to proved so and the OP receives the correct info.

Delusional. I don’t have to justify anything to you. I’ll not waste anymore effort on you. Αντίο

[Zorbathegreek]

Frankychops said:

Zorbathegreek said:

Streetbeat said:

There are no fake p1 seats or harness bars (720s) available, so must be genuine.

What difference would replica carbon parts make to a Mclaren warranty?

There are Chinese copy P1 seats (as well as Senna seats). There are harness bars made for the 720S by independent businesses based in UK.

I doubt replica carbon parts would make any difference to warranty, but if the OP is buying under the impression that they are genuine McLaren parts fitted (as part of track pack), that does make a difference. The OP was asking for some help on a particular sales advert. Someone inferred that it had been upgraded to track pack.

It is pretty easy to spot non-McLaren carbon fiber parts because they tend not to have the signature ‘V’ pattern and lack the McLaren quality. It’s a shame the advert has been pulled. The Armadillo was definitely not OEM. The bat wing fluid top-up cover wasn’t carbon fiber, which is unusual for a track-pack spec car.

IIRC, wasn’t the track pack only available from 2019 onwards. The car in the advert was 2018.

Edited by Zorbathegreek on Saturday 16th August 20:39

have you a like to the fake P1's? I've only seen Senna's

There was a discussion on McLaren life where someone had bought Chinese P1 seats. I think it was also discussed on one of the Facebook groups when a Chinese member was spamming the FB group with lots of carbon fibre parts. It was several months ago.

[murphyaj]

Zorbathegreek said:

Streetbeat said:

Zorbathegreek said:

Look pal, I’m simply responding to the OP who was asking for some advice on the advertised car. I’m not here to justify mysel.

You do have to justify yourself when your advise is wrong though "pal", no need to get bent of shape and defensive, if im wrong im happy to proved so and the OP receives the correct info.

Delusional. I don’t have to justify anything to you. I’ll not waste anymore effort on you. ?????

I don't have any idea if replica P1 seats are available, so I have no idea who is right here, but just a little FYI how this comes across to an external observer:-

Whenever I see someone being asked to provide evidence for something they said, if they choose not to simply provide said evidence, but instead get defensive and act like doing so is a waste of their time, I tend to take it as an admission that they don't have any evidence but don't want to admit it. Simply providing evidence when asked is usually easier than getting into an argument, and is a much better way of proving ones point

[Oaky]

murphyaj said:

I don't have any idea if replica P1 seats are available, so I have no idea who is right here, but just a little FYI how this comes across to an external observer:-

Whenever I see someone being asked to provide evidence for something they said, if they choose not to simply provide said evidence, but instead get defensive and act like doing so is a waste of their time, I tend to take it as an admission that they don't have any evidence but don't want to admit it. Simply providing evidence when asked is usually easier than getting into an argument, and is a much better way of proving ones point

Have you got a link?

[murphyaj]

Oaky said:

Have you got a link?

Well, since you asked nicely

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitchens%27s_razor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(phi...

[Streetbeat]

Zorbathegreek said:

Delusional. I don’t have to justify anything to you. I’ll not waste anymore effort on you. ?????

Very mature, would be easier to just post a link than get all bent of shape with your petulant response.

[Am43]

I didn’t buy it no, I did notice the advert was down. I did drive by mcmanchester last week, but could t see it.