They finally got me
Discussion
After 40 odd years of driving, being religious about 20/30/40 limits and pretty much disregarding NSL and increasingly 50s. I've now got my first speeding ticket, and it's for 35 in a 30.
Going through a village I pass through once a week on my bike, always checking my speedo on reaching the very obvious speed camera and always finding I was doing 32 at the most. But last week there was a queue of 15-20MPH traffic on the road with the camera and just at the wrong moment I went for an overtake, something I almost never do in a 30 limit, and somehow I managed to hit 35.
I'll probably get offered a speed awareness course but I've no intention of taking it. It would mean time off work and my tolerance for being patronised is not great.
My question is, do insurance companies still regard 3 points as a minor issue, or do they assume you've already exhausted your speed awareness options and must be a regular offender?
Going through a village I pass through once a week on my bike, always checking my speedo on reaching the very obvious speed camera and always finding I was doing 32 at the most. But last week there was a queue of 15-20MPH traffic on the road with the camera and just at the wrong moment I went for an overtake, something I almost never do in a 30 limit, and somehow I managed to hit 35.
I'll probably get offered a speed awareness course but I've no intention of taking it. It would mean time off work and my tolerance for being patronised is not great.
My question is, do insurance companies still regard 3 points as a minor issue, or do they assume you've already exhausted your speed awareness options and must be a regular offender?
leigh1050 said:
I'd do the speed awareness course if I was you. A few hours sat at home looking at a computer.
Exactly this. Why take the points? Lthough I don't think 3 points has that much of an impact, if any, on insurance. Plenty of us get done for speeding these days, it is part of life. My last one was 24 in a 20...Don't overthink it.
Austin Prefect said:
After 40 odd years of driving, being religious about 20/30/40 limits and pretty much disregarding NSL and increasingly 50s. I've now got my first speeding ticket, and it's for 35 in a 30.
Going through a village I pass through once a week on my bike, always checking my speedo on reaching the very obvious speed camera and always finding I was doing 32 at the most. But last week there was a queue of 15-20MPH traffic on the road with the camera and just at the wrong moment I went for an overtake, something I almost never do in a 30 limit, and somehow I managed to hit 35.
I'll probably get offered a speed awareness course but I've no intention of taking it. It would mean time off work and my tolerance for being patronised is not great.
My question is, do insurance companies still regard 3 points as a minor issue, or do they assume you've already exhausted your speed awareness options and must be a regular offender?
Bog the system down. Request evidence, calibrations etc. If enough of us do this we can cause problems. Claim ADHD caused you to momentarily loose concentration, mental health etc.Going through a village I pass through once a week on my bike, always checking my speedo on reaching the very obvious speed camera and always finding I was doing 32 at the most. But last week there was a queue of 15-20MPH traffic on the road with the camera and just at the wrong moment I went for an overtake, something I almost never do in a 30 limit, and somehow I managed to hit 35.
I'll probably get offered a speed awareness course but I've no intention of taking it. It would mean time off work and my tolerance for being patronised is not great.
My question is, do insurance companies still regard 3 points as a minor issue, or do they assume you've already exhausted your speed awareness options and must be a regular offender?
Franco5 said:
Bog the system down. Request evidence, calibrations etc. If enough of us do this we can cause problems. Claim ADHD caused you to momentarily loose concentration, mental health etc.
Stupid comment IMO.The law is public info and so is the penalty if you’re caught breaking the law. Why would you want to ‘bog the system down’ or ‘cause problems’?
Maybe your post was just trolling and I’ve fallen for it?
Franco5 said:
Bog the system down. Request evidence, calibrations etc. If enough of us do this we can cause problems. Claim ADHD caused you to momentarily loose concentration, mental health etc.
It’s an idea, but the police can just send a note back to say “thanks for your request, it is filed. Should you accept a course or FPN you can still do so,otherwise it’s off to court and none of your requests or lies will be answered or matter”How’s that?
Edited by 2020vision on Saturday 16th August 20:22
A moments impatience and you are rewarded for it.
Same way I got a ticket, a moments impatience after sitting in traffic for an hour, the road cleared and bingo, driven that road many many many times before. Getting a speed awareness course for that was wishfull thinking, straight to 3 points..
Same way I got a ticket, a moments impatience after sitting in traffic for an hour, the road cleared and bingo, driven that road many many many times before. Getting a speed awareness course for that was wishfull thinking, straight to 3 points..
Over zealous speed enforcement for nonsense misdemeanours like 35 in a 30 is absolutely nothing about safety and absolutely all about raising money… it is completely and utterly out of control, as is flooding these sites with brakists, leftists and EV fanatic bot accounts who will doubtless shortly appear and respond to this post.
Fight those f
kers. Good luck op, maybe your au pair who has since returned to a far flung destination and can no longer be contacted was actually the one driving…?
Fight those f
kers. Good luck op, maybe your au pair who has since returned to a far flung destination and can no longer be contacted was actually the one driving…?Austin Prefect said:
After 40 odd years of driving, being religious about 20/30/40 limits and pretty much disregarding NSL and increasingly 50s. I've now got my first speeding ticket, and it's for 35 in a 30.
Going through a village I pass through once a week on my bike, always checking my speedo on reaching the very obvious speed camera and always finding I was doing 32 at the most. But last week there was a queue of 15-20MPH traffic on the road with the camera and just at the wrong moment I went for an overtake, something I almost never do in a 30 limit, and somehow I managed to hit 35.
I'll probably get offered a speed awareness course but I've no intention of taking it. It would mean time off work and my tolerance for being patronised is not great.
My question is, do insurance companies still regard 3 points as a minor issue, or do they assume you've already exhausted your speed awareness options and must be a regular offender?
You probably will be offered a course. You may think it patronising but getting caught at 35 in a 30 suggests you are going to benefit.Going through a village I pass through once a week on my bike, always checking my speedo on reaching the very obvious speed camera and always finding I was doing 32 at the most. But last week there was a queue of 15-20MPH traffic on the road with the camera and just at the wrong moment I went for an overtake, something I almost never do in a 30 limit, and somehow I managed to hit 35.
I'll probably get offered a speed awareness course but I've no intention of taking it. It would mean time off work and my tolerance for being patronised is not great.
My question is, do insurance companies still regard 3 points as a minor issue, or do they assume you've already exhausted your speed awareness options and must be a regular offender?
2020vision said:
Austin Prefect said:
After 40 odd years of driving, being religious about 20/30/40 limits and pretty much disregarding NSL and increasingly 50s. I've now got my first speeding ticket, and it's for 35 in a 30.
Going through a village I pass through once a week on my bike, always checking my speedo on reaching the very obvious speed camera and always finding I was doing 32 at the most. But last week there was a queue of 15-20MPH traffic on the road with the camera and just at the wrong moment I went for an overtake, something I almost never do in a 30 limit, and somehow I managed to hit 35.
I'll probably get offered a speed awareness course but I've no intention of taking it. It would mean time off work and my tolerance for being patronised is not great.
My question is, do insurance companies still regard 3 points as a minor issue, or do they assume you've already exhausted your speed awareness options and must be a regular offender?
You probably will be offered a course. You may think it patronising but getting caught at 35 in a 30 suggests you are going to benefit.Going through a village I pass through once a week on my bike, always checking my speedo on reaching the very obvious speed camera and always finding I was doing 32 at the most. But last week there was a queue of 15-20MPH traffic on the road with the camera and just at the wrong moment I went for an overtake, something I almost never do in a 30 limit, and somehow I managed to hit 35.
I'll probably get offered a speed awareness course but I've no intention of taking it. It would mean time off work and my tolerance for being patronised is not great.
My question is, do insurance companies still regard 3 points as a minor issue, or do they assume you've already exhausted your speed awareness options and must be a regular offender?
It isn't being offered the course that's patronising, it's the assumption that I make a habit of doing 35 in 30s because I'm not 'aware' of the limit. How do you know you haven't briefly hit 35 in a 30 where there wasn't a camera.
Franco5 said:
Austin Prefect said:
After 40 odd years of driving, being religious about 20/30/40 limits and pretty much disregarding NSL and increasingly 50s. I've now got my first speeding ticket, and it's for 35 in a 30.
Going through a village I pass through once a week on my bike, always checking my speedo on reaching the very obvious speed camera and always finding I was doing 32 at the most. But last week there was a queue of 15-20MPH traffic on the road with the camera and just at the wrong moment I went for an overtake, something I almost never do in a 30 limit, and somehow I managed to hit 35.
I'll probably get offered a speed awareness course but I've no intention of taking it. It would mean time off work and my tolerance for being patronised is not great.
My question is, do insurance companies still regard 3 points as a minor issue, or do they assume you've already exhausted your speed awareness options and must be a regular offender?
Bog the system down. Request evidence, calibrations etc. If enough of us do this we can cause problems. Claim ADHD caused you to momentarily loose concentration, mental health etc.Going through a village I pass through once a week on my bike, always checking my speedo on reaching the very obvious speed camera and always finding I was doing 32 at the most. But last week there was a queue of 15-20MPH traffic on the road with the camera and just at the wrong moment I went for an overtake, something I almost never do in a 30 limit, and somehow I managed to hit 35.
I'll probably get offered a speed awareness course but I've no intention of taking it. It would mean time off work and my tolerance for being patronised is not great.
My question is, do insurance companies still regard 3 points as a minor issue, or do they assume you've already exhausted your speed awareness options and must be a regular offender?
You start to ask for evidential disclosure at the fixed penalty stage then it’s down the Magistrates Court you will go. You’ll get your evidential disclosure (which they will have and it will be ship-shape) at that juncture but your conditional offer is then off the table.
You then start to play roulette with the Magistrates on sentencing as you’ve wasted court time running nonsensical arguments.
In terms of pulling the ADHD card - what the poster has failed to identify to you is that ADHD is a notifiable condition to the DVLA so they’ll stick you on for not telling them that as well whilst you’re in the Dock. There may also be the small matter of a lack of a formal diagnosis from a qualified and indemnified medical practitioner to support your claim.
It’ll be a SAC - some people do take some good snippets of information away with them - so go in with an open-mind - or a FPN of 3pts and £100.
ADJimbo said:
Franco5 said:
Austin Prefect said:
After 40 odd years of driving, being religious about 20/30/40 limits and pretty much disregarding NSL and increasingly 50s. I've now got my first speeding ticket, and it's for 35 in a 30.
Going through a village I pass through once a week on my bike, always checking my speedo on reaching the very obvious speed camera and always finding I was doing 32 at the most. But last week there was a queue of 15-20MPH traffic on the road with the camera and just at the wrong moment I went for an overtake, something I almost never do in a 30 limit, and somehow I managed to hit 35.
I'll probably get offered a speed awareness course but I've no intention of taking it. It would mean time off work and my tolerance for being patronised is not great.
My question is, do insurance companies still regard 3 points as a minor issue, or do they assume you've already exhausted your speed awareness options and must be a regular offender?
Bog the system down. Request evidence, calibrations etc. If enough of us do this we can cause problems. Claim ADHD caused you to momentarily loose concentration, mental health etc.Going through a village I pass through once a week on my bike, always checking my speedo on reaching the very obvious speed camera and always finding I was doing 32 at the most. But last week there was a queue of 15-20MPH traffic on the road with the camera and just at the wrong moment I went for an overtake, something I almost never do in a 30 limit, and somehow I managed to hit 35.
I'll probably get offered a speed awareness course but I've no intention of taking it. It would mean time off work and my tolerance for being patronised is not great.
My question is, do insurance companies still regard 3 points as a minor issue, or do they assume you've already exhausted your speed awareness options and must be a regular offender?
You start to ask for evidential disclosure at the fixed penalty stage then it’s down the Magistrates Court you will go. You’ll get your evidential disclosure (which they will have and it will be ship-shape) at that juncture but your conditional offer is then off the table.
You then start to play roulette with the Magistrates on sentencing as you’ve wasted court time running nonsensical arguments.
In terms of pulling the ADHD card - what the poster has failed to identify to you is that ADHD is a notifiable condition to the DVLA so they’ll stick you on for not telling them that as well whilst you’re in the Dock. There may also be the small matter of a lack of a formal diagnosis from a qualified and indemnified medical practitioner to support your claim.
It’ll be a SAC - some people do take some good snippets of information away with them - so go in with an open-mind - or a FPN of 3pts and £100.
Count897 said:
ADJimbo said:
Franco5 said:
Austin Prefect said:
After 40 odd years of driving, being religious about 20/30/40 limits and pretty much disregarding NSL and increasingly 50s. I've now got my first speeding ticket, and it's for 35 in a 30.
Going through a village I pass through once a week on my bike, always checking my speedo on reaching the very obvious speed camera and always finding I was doing 32 at the most. But last week there was a queue of 15-20MPH traffic on the road with the camera and just at the wrong moment I went for an overtake, something I almost never do in a 30 limit, and somehow I managed to hit 35.
I'll probably get offered a speed awareness course but I've no intention of taking it. It would mean time off work and my tolerance for being patronised is not great.
My question is, do insurance companies still regard 3 points as a minor issue, or do they assume you've already exhausted your speed awareness options and must be a regular offender?
Bog the system down. Request evidence, calibrations etc. If enough of us do this we can cause problems. Claim ADHD caused you to momentarily loose concentration, mental health etc.Going through a village I pass through once a week on my bike, always checking my speedo on reaching the very obvious speed camera and always finding I was doing 32 at the most. But last week there was a queue of 15-20MPH traffic on the road with the camera and just at the wrong moment I went for an overtake, something I almost never do in a 30 limit, and somehow I managed to hit 35.
I'll probably get offered a speed awareness course but I've no intention of taking it. It would mean time off work and my tolerance for being patronised is not great.
My question is, do insurance companies still regard 3 points as a minor issue, or do they assume you've already exhausted your speed awareness options and must be a regular offender?
You start to ask for evidential disclosure at the fixed penalty stage then it’s down the Magistrates Court you will go. You’ll get your evidential disclosure (which they will have and it will be ship-shape) at that juncture but your conditional offer is then off the table.
You then start to play roulette with the Magistrates on sentencing as you’ve wasted court time running nonsensical arguments.
In terms of pulling the ADHD card - what the poster has failed to identify to you is that ADHD is a notifiable condition to the DVLA so they’ll stick you on for not telling them that as well whilst you’re in the Dock. There may also be the small matter of a lack of a formal diagnosis from a qualified and indemnified medical practitioner to support your claim.
It’ll be a SAC - some people do take some good snippets of information away with them - so go in with an open-mind - or a FPN of 3pts and £100.
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