Hit from behind by drunk driver
Hit from behind by drunk driver
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DaGuv

Original Poster:

451 posts

222 months

After some advice please.

I was on the a34 yesterday near Oxford and as I slowed down for traffic a car collided with the back of my enterprise rental car. To cut a long story short the driver at fault was 3x the alcohol limit. I have back and kneck injuries. Enterprise have not been much help. I’m after any legal advice etc.

Djtemeka

1,929 posts

208 months

You claim on the drunks insurance

DaGuv

Original Poster:

451 posts

222 months

How do you even start that process? Thanks

Djtemeka

1,929 posts

208 months

Did you or the police not swap insurance details at the scene?

DaGuv

Original Poster:

451 posts

222 months

I have his details but waiting on police report.

Tony1963

5,712 posts

178 months

I don’t think I’d rely on just claiming through his insurance. You need someone on your side to maximise the claim in a professional way. A medical report will be required.

Boringvolvodriver

10,514 posts

59 months

Does your home insurance, own car insurance policy or employer provide some sort of legal advice line/assistance? If so give them a ring.

Failing that then find a solicitor who will take on your case in a no win no fee basis.

As others have said, you will need medical reports to substantiate your claim.

DaGuv

Original Poster:

451 posts

222 months

Yes going to ring home insurance and use them legal cover.

MustangGT

13,408 posts

296 months

DaGuv said:
Yes going to ring home insurance and use them legal cover.
Few home insurance policies cover legal for motor related incidents, it is specifically excluded on mine for example.

Tony1963

5,712 posts

178 months

The rental car will have been insured. I’d be looking at the terms and conditions on that.

Jamescrs

5,389 posts

81 months

You need to find a personal injury solicitor and they will sort out the whole process including medical reports

wrencho

330 posts

81 months

You need to be all over the Police for the official reading from the station. The roadside reading isn't admissible.

My wife was hit by a drink driver on the M6 and by the time the Police got their act together and got a sample he was under the limit and no further action was taken.

It was a st show from start to finish dealing with the Police and his insurers.

kestral

2,017 posts

223 months

The car has been hit and damaged and Enterprise rental have not asked you to fill a form in for their inurers !

InitialDave

13,447 posts

135 months

Having been hit by an Enterprise car, yes, their insurers are... somewhat lacking.

Foss62

1,454 posts

81 months

wrencho said:
You need to be all over the Police for the official reading from the station. The roadside reading isn't admissible.

My wife was hit by a drink driver on the M6 and by the time the Police got their act together and got a sample he was under the limit and no further action was taken.

It was a st show from start to finish dealing with the Police and his insurers.
Not sure I follow the logic here. Why would the driver being under the limit be of relevance to your wife’s insurance claim? If the other driver was at fault, then him being under the alcohol limit doesn’t alter that - any more than him being over would affect things from an insurance perspective if your wife was at fault.
Your wife’s insurance company would presumably be able to use Police observations (and actions) at the scene, to claim from the other driver - much more evidence than would be the case in many other collisions.

tele_lover

870 posts

31 months

wrencho said:
You need to be all over the Police for the official reading from the station. The roadside reading isn't admissible.

My wife was hit by a drink driver on the M6 and by the time the Police got their act together and got a sample he was under the limit and no further action was taken.

It was a st show from start to finish dealing with the Police and his insurers.
So if the police pull someone over for drink driving, if they collapse on the floor and pretend they're having a heart attack, they would get taken to A&E and get away with it?

Rusty569

216 posts

123 months

tele_lover said:
So if the police pull someone over for drink driving, if they collapse on the floor and pretend they're having a heart attack, they would get taken to A&E and get away with it?
No. The suspect would go to hospital rather than custody initially, in hospital the police can send a force medic to obtain an evidential blood test (proving the doctor in charge of the suspects care did not provide any medical grounds objecting to the specimen being obtained and the suspect consented. If the doctor objected then there’s nothing more to be done, if the suspect did not consent then they are charged with failing to provide)

The blood sample would then be sent off for analysis.

Ultimately the roadside breath test provides an indication but is not evidential, the suspect needs to be arrested and taken to custody for 2 evidential breath tests on a calibrated machine or have blood / urine obtained within custody or hospital. There is an unavoidable time delay between roadside impairment testing and an evidential sample being obtained, this delay can sometimes be upwards of an hour but cops will do all they can to obtain the specimen in a timely manner

tele_lover

870 posts

31 months

Rusty569 said:
tele_lover said:
So if the police pull someone over for drink driving, if they collapse on the floor and pretend they're having a heart attack, they would get taken to A&E and get away with it?
No. The suspect would go to hospital rather than custody initially, in hospital the police can send a force medic to obtain an evidential blood test (proving the doctor in charge of the suspects care did not provide any medical grounds objecting to the specimen being obtained and the suspect consented. If the doctor objected then there’s nothing more to be done, if the suspect did not consent then they are charged with failing to provide)

The blood sample would then be sent off for analysis.

Ultimately the roadside breath test provides an indication but is not evidential, the suspect needs to be arrested and taken to custody for 2 evidential breath tests on a calibrated machine or have blood / urine obtained within custody or hospital. There is an unavoidable time delay between roadside impairment testing and an evidential sample being obtained, this delay can sometimes be upwards of an hour but cops will do all they can to obtain the specimen in a timely manner
I wasn't trying to be a prick, was just curious given the roadside one is not evidential. Is that because the kit is less-accurate?

eldar

24,178 posts

212 months

tele_lover said:
I wasn't trying to be a prick, was just curious given the roadside one is not evidential. Is that because the kit is less-accurate?
I think it's a hangover(!) from the original breathalyser blow in the bag system, and the law hasn't been updated.

XCP

17,456 posts

244 months

Tuesday
quotequote all
Rusty569 said:
No. The suspect would go to hospital rather than custody initially, in hospital the police can send a force medic to obtain an evidential blood test (proving the doctor in charge of the suspects care did not provide any medical grounds objecting to the specimen being obtained and the suspect consented. If the doctor objected then there’s nothing more to be done, if the suspect did not consent then they are charged with failing to provide)

The blood sample would then be sent off for analysis.

Ultimately the roadside breath test provides an indication but is not evidential, the suspect needs to be arrested and taken to custody for 2 evidential breath tests on a calibrated machine or have blood / urine obtained within custody or hospital. There is an unavoidable time delay between roadside impairment testing and an evidential sample being obtained, this delay can sometimes be upwards of an hour but cops will do all they can to obtain the specimen in a timely manner
If there is evidence of driving whilst intoxicated, there's no reason not to charge with driving whilst unfit ( in charge) notwithstanding that no samples have been taken. Been there and done it.