2017 Ecoboost - wet belt?
Discussion
Background:
We had a pal whose ecoboost Focus 'blew up' on her on holiday this year, due to the notorious wet belt issue. It was a fairly old car, but became scrap value only
I say 'notorious' - I was previously totally unaware of this issue, which sounds like a major Ford design failure, requiring serious work (£1,500+) every ten years to replace.
Now: our daughter had a couple of these ecoboost engines with Fiesta's. The first was totalled by a drug thief, so that won't be reaching 10 years....but the last was a nice 2017 one - B&O Play Zetec Series 1.0T EcoBoost 100PS 5d 2017/67 to be precise - & we sold this on to a relative.
Now I am aware of the issue, I am compelled to mention it to them - they are not car people, and will be totally unaware of this, I am certain.
It sounds like the wet belt will need changing within a couple of years.
Firstly - is there any way to fully confirm whether the engine has that wet belt? I feel pretty certain it is, from limited reading.
Secondly - any suggestions on the best (most cost effective!) place to get it done?! They live near Hull.
We had a pal whose ecoboost Focus 'blew up' on her on holiday this year, due to the notorious wet belt issue. It was a fairly old car, but became scrap value only
I say 'notorious' - I was previously totally unaware of this issue, which sounds like a major Ford design failure, requiring serious work (£1,500+) every ten years to replace.
Now: our daughter had a couple of these ecoboost engines with Fiesta's. The first was totalled by a drug thief, so that won't be reaching 10 years....but the last was a nice 2017 one - B&O Play Zetec Series 1.0T EcoBoost 100PS 5d 2017/67 to be precise - & we sold this on to a relative.
Now I am aware of the issue, I am compelled to mention it to them - they are not car people, and will be totally unaware of this, I am certain.
It sounds like the wet belt will need changing within a couple of years.
Firstly - is there any way to fully confirm whether the engine has that wet belt? I feel pretty certain it is, from limited reading.
Secondly - any suggestions on the best (most cost effective!) place to get it done?! They live near Hull.
From the model year and engine type, it most likely does have a wet belt.
FWIW, my OH had a 1.0 Fiesta Ecoboost from three years old to 11 years old and it was absolutely fine.
We got the belt replaced when the car was 10 years old.
Ford wanted a lot of money to do it, so we rang around some recommended local independents. A lot wouldn't touch it, but one did and it was fairly reasonable for the work involved (just under £1k IIRC)
FWIW, my OH had a 1.0 Fiesta Ecoboost from three years old to 11 years old and it was absolutely fine.
We got the belt replaced when the car was 10 years old.
Ford wanted a lot of money to do it, so we rang around some recommended local independents. A lot wouldn't touch it, but one did and it was fairly reasonable for the work involved (just under £1k IIRC)
Had two done, my daughter 2013 which has been in the family from new. Belt was changed at 10 years sitting on 130k miles, cost £730 (the two belts and the water pump). Second is my 2020 1.0 van, changes as above at 5 years and 138k miles. both running perfect with both covering over 10k miles plus since the change. Obviously both were serviced as ford specified, the 2013 car had service intervals at 12k, where as the van service intervals were 18k. I carried out 9000 mile oil changes as 12k is ok to me where 18k is pushing it.
Don Veloci said:
How much? 
Wifey car is a 2015 Fiesta 1.0 ecoboost100ps!
Indeed.Wifey car is a 2015 Fiesta 1.0 ecoboost100ps!
As I said, I was totally unaware of the issue. Bloody Ford - apparently they thought it would last the lifetime of the car, then adjust things after some 'experience'....& the job is a beast to do.
A pal over the road had their daughters done - I think he used a Ford garage, around £1,500, and it was the FIRST they had done. Not sure I fancy the odds of that ending well, tbh
mikeiow said:
Don Veloci said:
How much?
Wifey car is a 2015 Fiesta 1.0 ecoboost100ps!
Indeed.Wifey car is a 2015 Fiesta 1.0 ecoboost100ps!
As I said, I was totally unaware of the issue. Bloody Ford - apparently they thought it would last the lifetime of the car, then adjust things after some 'experience'....& the job is a beast to do.
A pal over the road had their daughters done - I think he used a Ford garage, around £1,500, and it was the FIRST they had done. Not sure I fancy the odds of that ending well, tbh
Most garages don't want to do it because it's a pain in the arse, not because it goes wrong.
Don Veloci said:
Hmm,
Either get the job priced and booked (Edinburgh), trade the car, or keep playing the fail lottery for a while yet.
Job would be the cheapest. Mileage is small but 10 years is 10 years. No ways it's been done, We've had it since 2019.
I work at a garage in Edinburgh.Either get the job priced and booked (Edinburgh), trade the car, or keep playing the fail lottery for a while yet.
Job would be the cheapest. Mileage is small but 10 years is 10 years. No ways it's been done, We've had it since 2019.
We tried to send a Transit that has a wet belt to auction without doing the belt to save money.
We got the transit back as it wouldnt sell at the auction.
A lot of places wont touch a trade in without the wet belt being shown to have been changed at around 10 years.
We are lucky that we have a couple of Ford trained techs but even they want thectooling to do it.
A new engine is alot more than the belt to change.
Don Veloci said:
Hmm,
Either get the job priced and booked, trade the car, or keep playing the fail lottery for a while yet.
Job would be the cheapest. Mileage is small but 10 years is 10 years. No ways it's been done, We've had it since 2019.
That feels like the summary to give them. A bugger, but then again, all cars cost money, eh!Either get the job priced and booked, trade the car, or keep playing the fail lottery for a while yet.
Job would be the cheapest. Mileage is small but 10 years is 10 years. No ways it's been done, We've had it since 2019.
sherman said:
I work at a garage in Edinburgh.
We tried to send a Transit that has a wet belt to auction without doing the belt to save money.
We got the transit back as it wouldnt sell at the auction.
A lot of places wont touch a trade in without the wet belt being shown to have been changed at around 10 years.
We are lucky that we have a couple of Ford trained techs but even they want thectooling to do it.
A new engine is alot more than the belt to change.
I guess I'm expecting the likes of Arnold Clark to take a trade without much thought - which says a lot about what you're buying We tried to send a Transit that has a wet belt to auction without doing the belt to save money.
We got the transit back as it wouldnt sell at the auction.
A lot of places wont touch a trade in without the wet belt being shown to have been changed at around 10 years.
We are lucky that we have a couple of Ford trained techs but even they want thectooling to do it.
A new engine is alot more than the belt to change.
I've planted the seed now regarding the impending spend, we'll get it done somewhere.
Don Veloci said:
sherman said:
I work at a garage in Edinburgh.
We tried to send a Transit that has a wet belt to auction without doing the belt to save money.
We got the transit back as it wouldnt sell at the auction.
A lot of places wont touch a trade in without the wet belt being shown to have been changed at around 10 years.
We are lucky that we have a couple of Ford trained techs but even they want thectooling to do it.
A new engine is a lot more than the belt to change.
I guess I'm expecting the likes of Arnold Clark to take a trade without much thought - which says a lot about what you're buying We tried to send a Transit that has a wet belt to auction without doing the belt to save money.
We got the transit back as it wouldnt sell at the auction.
A lot of places wont touch a trade in without the wet belt being shown to have been changed at around 10 years.
We are lucky that we have a couple of Ford trained techs but even they want thectooling to do it.
A new engine is a lot more than the belt to change.
I've planted the seed now regarding the impending spend, we'll get it done somewhere.
Makes that kind of decision slightly less clear cut, especially if it might last another 5 years without the work.
Let’s not forget that Ford originally felt the wet belt would last the lifetime of the car.
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