Do the police / dvla care about fake plates?
Do the police / dvla care about fake plates?
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MickTravis665321

Original Poster:

55 posts

32 months

A neighbour of mine has put fake plates on his car. MOT has also run out and no insurance. It is taxed under the original plate.

The registration isn't cloned, it's just made up and does not link to any vehicle.

Reported it via a form on the met police site a week or so ago. Be interesting to see if they come round to clamp/tow it.

Anyone had any success with this in the past? Bloke drives like a cretin so would be good for his uppence to come.

Glassman

23,719 posts

231 months

Nick the plates

sunnyb13

1,113 posts

54 months

How do you know it has no insurance?

ashenfie

1,571 posts

62 months

If it’s off the road then he can do what he likes.

Simpo Two

89,343 posts

281 months

sunnyb13 said:
How do you know it has no insurance?
Google AI says 'No, a car without a valid MOT (Ministry of Transport) test certificate is generally not insured. Most car insurance policies require a valid MOT as a condition of coverage, meaning that if you drive without one, your insurance may be invalidated, and you could face legal penalties.'

Cold

16,108 posts

106 months

Simpo Two said:
sunnyb13 said:
How do you know it has no insurance?
Google AI says 'No, a car without a valid MOT (Ministry of Transport) test certificate is generally not insured. Most car insurance policies require a valid MOT as a condition of coverage, meaning that if you drive without one, your insurance may be invalidated, and you could face legal penalties.'
If you delete this I promise to delete my quote.

LosingGrip

8,367 posts

175 months

Simpo Two said:
sunnyb13 said:
How do you know it has no insurance?
Google AI says 'No, a car without a valid MOT (Ministry of Transport) test certificate is generally not insured. Most car insurance policies require a valid MOT as a condition of coverage, meaning that if you drive without one, your insurance may be invalidated, and you could face legal penalties.'
We need to start a PH Bingo list for things said on threads. That would be one of them.

Sebring440

2,797 posts

112 months

Simpo Two said:
Most car insurance policies require a valid MOT as a condition of coverage, meaning that if you drive without one, your insurance may be invalidated, and you could face legal penalties.
Here we go.....

banghead

Simpo Two

89,343 posts

281 months

Cold said:
Simpo Two said:
sunnyb13 said:
How do you know it has no insurance?
Google AI says 'No, a car without a valid MOT (Ministry of Transport) test certificate is generally not insured. Most car insurance policies require a valid MOT as a condition of coverage, meaning that if you drive without one, your insurance may be invalidated, and you could face legal penalties.'
If you delete this I promise to delete my quote.
I simply quoted Google AI. It's not an opinion or a fact.

So, as my attempt to explain why the OP might think think the car has no insurance seems to have been rejected, let's throw the question out again:

sunnyb13 said:
How do you know it has no insurance?

Matthen

1,381 posts

167 months

Simpo Two said:
Cold said:
Simpo Two said:
sunnyb13 said:
How do you know it has no insurance?
Google AI says 'No, a car without a valid MOT (Ministry of Transport) test certificate is generally not insured. Most car insurance policies require a valid MOT as a condition of coverage, meaning that if you drive without one, your insurance may be invalidated, and you could face legal penalties.'
If you delete this I promise to delete my quote.
I simply quoted Google AI. It's not an opinion or a fact.

So, as my attempt to explain why the OP might think think the car has no insurance seems to have been rejected, let's throw the question out again:

sunnyb13 said:
How do you know it has no insurance?
There are plenty of apps with an AskMID backend - I suspect the OP used one of those (on both the plates). It's an easy cop, so you might see the Met in attendance...




Rusty569

216 posts

123 months

Tuesday
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Plates that don’t conform exactly to the specified legislation? No

Plates that are either cloned or illegible to ANPR? Yes

Fastdruid

9,092 posts

168 months

Tuesday
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MickTravis665321 said:
A neighbour of mine has put fake plates on his car. MOT has also run out and no insurance. It is taxed under the original plate.

The registration isn't cloned, it's just made up and does not link to any vehicle.

Reported it via a form on the met police site a week or so ago. Be interesting to see if they come round to clamp/tow it.

Anyone had any success with this in the past? Bloke drives like a cretin so would be good for his uppence to come.
No. I've reported someone previously[1]....nothing happened.

Now sure if I'd gone to the effort of going down to a station and demanded they do something they may have bothered but IMO if you report it online, even saying where its parked, when its parked and when they're driving it nothing will come of it.

[1] Somewhat of a coincidence I noticed but a car parked during the pandemic had a broken rear screen. Then suddenly it had a different registration....and then the screen was fixed and it was being used and then a while later another different registration. If it wasn't for the broken screen I'd never have noticed it.

dingg

4,381 posts

235 months

Tuesday
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Simpo Two said:
sunnyb13 said:
How do you know it has no insurance?
Google AI says 'No, a car without a valid MOT (Ministry of Transport) test certificate is generally not insured. Most car insurance policies require a valid MOT as a condition of coverage, meaning that if you drive without one, your insurance may be invalidated, and you could face legal penalties.'
Google ai, is often quite right, unfortunately it's often quite wrong, the governing factor re mot and insurance validity is what's stated in the insurance policy associated with the vehicle concerned.

Not ai but actual intelligence

MickTravis665321

Original Poster:

55 posts

32 months

Tuesday
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sunnyb13 said:
How do you know it has no insurance?
I used the askMID service for both the new (fake) and old (real) plate and ticked the box where it says "It's an offence to check a vehicle that does not belong to you" - the police are welcome to come and arrest me for that if they also pop over to tow him smile


Fastdruid said:
No. I've reported someone previously[1]....nothing happened.

Now sure if I'd gone to the effort of going down to a station and demanded they do something they may have bothered but IMO if you report it online, even saying where its parked, when its parked and when they're driving it nothing will come of it.
That's disappointing, like you say it's a slam dunk easy win for them, and in this day and age of KPIs / stats etc I'd have thought quite appealing.

Beetnik

541 posts

200 months

Tuesday
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dingg said:
Google ai, is often quite right, unfortunately it's often quite wrong...
It would fit in well here then - maybe it should open an account?

Nibbles_bits

1,775 posts

55 months

Tuesday
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MickTravis665321 said:
sunnyb13 said:
How do you know it has no insurance?
I used the askMID service for both the new (fake) and old (real) plate and ticked the box where it says "It's an offence to check a vehicle that does not belong to you" - the police are welcome to come and arrest me for that if they also pop over to tow him smile


Fastdruid said:
No. I've reported someone previously[1]....nothing happened.

Now sure if I'd gone to the effort of going down to a station and demanded they do something they may have bothered but IMO if you report it online, even saying where its parked, when its parked and when they're driving it nothing will come of it.
That's disappointing, like you say it's a slam dunk easy win for them, and in this day and age of KPIs / stats etc I'd have thought quite appealing.
It wouldn't be the police, but the DVLA

Nibbles_bits

1,775 posts

55 months

Tuesday
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Fastdruid said:
MickTravis665321 said:
A neighbour of mine has put fake plates on his car. MOT has also run out and no insurance. It is taxed under the original plate.

The registration isn't cloned, it's just made up and does not link to any vehicle.

Reported it via a form on the met police site a week or so ago. Be interesting to see if they come round to clamp/tow it.

Anyone had any success with this in the past? Bloke drives like a cretin so would be good for his uppence to come.
No. I've reported someone previously[1]....nothing happened.

Now sure if I'd gone to the effort of going down to a station and demanded they do something they may have bothered but IMO if you report it online, even saying where its parked, when its parked and when they're driving it nothing will come of it.

[1] Somewhat of a coincidence I noticed but a car parked during the pandemic had a broken rear screen. Then suddenly it had a different registration....and then the screen was fixed and it was being used and then a while later another different registration. If it wasn't for the broken screen I'd never have noticed it.
Alright Ronnie Pickering, calm down.

Going down to the station and "demanding" action is very unlikely to make a difference. Crime is prioritised by Threat Harm Risk. False number plate is low in all of those.

OIC

151 posts

9 months

Tuesday
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MickTravis665321 said:
A neighbour of mine has put fake plates on his car. MOT has also run out and no insurance. It is taxed under the original plate.

The registration isn't cloned, it's just made up and does not link to any vehicle.

Reported it via a form on the met police site a week or so ago. Be interesting to see if they come round to clamp/tow it.

Anyone had any success with this in the past? Bloke drives like a cretin so would be good for his uppence to come.
I'm confused.

Are you saying that he's using the car on the road while displaying a made up registration number?

Or is it just parked on his drive with the titty plates on?

Could be one for the odd things your neighbours do fred.

MickTravis665321

Original Poster:

55 posts

32 months

Tuesday
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OIC said:
Are you saying that he's using the car on the road while displaying a made up registration number?
Precisely. It is parked on the road and in use. It is using a made up registration number.


Edited by MickTravis665321 on Tuesday 19th August 17:50

CaptainScarlet1967

43 posts

1 month

Tuesday
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Rusty569 said:
Plates that don’t conform exactly to the specified legislation? No

Plates that are either cloned or illegible to ANPR? Yes
amongst many cars I have seen sporting the same sort of plates, there is one Range Rover parked on a main road into town donning those darkened grey / 'smoked' number plates in plain view of everyone.

Researching this style of plate points towards a certain type of person who believes they are a necessity, but who mistakenly believes ANPR won't be able to make out the VRN, namely if the camera flashes.

The Police don't seem to care about numberplate conformity when it comes to these, given how many cars now seem to have them (never mind hexagonal / shortened / '4D' fridge magnet effect) and how illegible / badly obscured so many 'smoked' VRNs are to the human eye.