What's reasonable haggling on a used car?
What's reasonable haggling on a used car?
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blueST

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4,674 posts

233 months

Saturday 23rd August
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I'm looking at older used cars, 8 to15 years old and some are at dealers. Are dealers at this end of the market open to a bit of negotiation without taking offence and throwing me out of the door? My previous experience is from years ago when things seemed a bit more relaxed.

Rough101

2,744 posts

92 months

Saturday 23rd August
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Everything is on line now, so if it’s priced low or right, very little room.

Wills2

26,619 posts

192 months

Saturday 23rd August
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You should within reason politely haggle, I think with over priced cars it's best to whittle them down via browsing the internet as you're not going to get price discovery and just waste your time by going to see it, but once you have a car you want to buy there is nothing wrong in giving them your opinion on what the car is worth to you, just don't do it in the form of an insulting offer after spending and hour or two with the salesmen as that might get a response you don't want.


dontlookdown

2,216 posts

110 months

Saturday 23rd August
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My experience is that there is v little room for haggling on regular cars at that price point these days. Internet makes pricing v transparent, if you get £100 off you're doing well.

smokey mow

1,290 posts

217 months

Saturday 23rd August
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1-2% at best in my experience.

TheDrownedApe

1,461 posts

73 months

Saturday 23rd August
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Son bought a kia ceed gt back in March. Dealer had it at 6790 and I managed to get it, over the phone, for 6500.

Dealer claimed at that price it would be sold as trade sale; clearly I agreed but I wonder if he knew he was talking nonsense?

So 5% seems reasonable to try for (in my limited experience).

fflump

2,480 posts

55 months

Saturday 23rd August
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If it's priced well than you know it and they know it there will be little room

If it is over-priced and in a colour or spec that you particularly want then there may be room if you appear indifferent to the colour/spec on the phone and cite other examples that are cheaper. If you tell them you want to agree to a price in principle and you will buy assuming the car is fine upon inspection and test drive then the salesman may well be amenable to flexibility for a 90% chance of a sale for minimal time spent on their part.

Wills2

26,619 posts

192 months

Saturday 23rd August
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If someone told me they were indifferent to the colour and spec and that there are cheaper cars elsewhere, I'd simply tell them to buy one of those then, dreadful open gambit IMO.




ashenfie

1,638 posts

63 months

Saturday 23rd August
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Good Luck offending a used car salesperson.

ZX10R NIN

29,424 posts

142 months

Saturday 23rd August
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It depends on the car but yes you can & should always try to haggle.

Buy on condition, make sure it has receipts & everything works at which point you can workout what seems like a reasonable price to pay for the car you're looking at.

ADJimbo

685 posts

203 months

Saturday 23rd August
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fflump said:
If it's priced well than you know it and they know it there will be little room

If it is over-priced and in a colour or spec that you particularly want then there may be room if you appear indifferent to the colour/spec on the phone and cite other examples that are cheaper. If you tell them you want to agree to a price in principle and you will buy assuming the car is fine upon inspection and test drive then the salesman may well be amenable to flexibility for a 90% chance of a sale for minimal time spent on their part.
Your negotiation skills are really quite impressive.

If you appear ‘indifferent’ towards the negotiation and the vehicle in question, you run the risk of coming across as a time waster as you’ll appear disinterested in them and the vehicle as a whole.

I’d personally approach it in the manner of explaining that it’s a car you’re very interested in, the dealership have obviously prepared and presented the vehicle well and you’re in a position to move forwards both commercially and very quickly should the opportunity present itself.

Then explain that you see the commercials on the vehicle slightly differently to them so thought you’d pick up the telephone to them as an act of courtesy - as their time is equally as valuable as yours - to explore the potential of opening up a pricing discussion on the vehicle in the hope you could land on a number that works for both them and you…

Actually, scrap that. Indifference is the best negational tactic after all.


Panamax

6,725 posts

51 months

Saturday 23rd August
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"I've looked at several cars similar to this and yours is the one I'd like to buy, if we can agree a suitable price.""

"Well, the car is advertised at £10,000 and that's the price."

"Yes, I can see what you're asking for the car. I looked at a similar car down the road at £9,250 which is almost as good. If you can move towards that price I'll be happy to put down a deposit right here right now. (Pulls credit card from pocket.) Can we do a deal at £9,400?"

and a bit of further haggling should see a deal done without anyone being offended.

the-norseman

14,502 posts

188 months

Saturday 23rd August
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My experience last time was 1-2% that was about it, they wouldn't budge.

The car unfortunately had all of the options I wanted, in the colour I wanted. There were no others for sale at the time.

Edible Roadkill

1,949 posts

194 months

Saturday 23rd August
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Frustratingly very little on the last car I bought. Dynamic pricing stated the dealer, head office set the price.

Angled for a grand off ~ 2%, sent a link to one similar that was £1k less for comparison.

I think I got 170 off a 44k car, very much take it or leave it laugh

Rick101

7,089 posts

167 months

Saturday 23rd August
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Just pay list and negotiate extras. Works much better that way.


Panamax

6,725 posts

51 months

Saturday 23rd August
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Rick101 said:
Just pay list and negotiate extras. Works much better that way.
What "extras" are available on a used car?

cliffords

2,763 posts

40 months

Saturday 23rd August
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TheDrownedApe said:
Son bought a kia ceed gt back in March. Dealer had it at 6790 and I managed to get it, over the phone, for 6500.

Dealer claimed at that price it would be sold as trade sale; clearly I agreed but I wonder if he knew he was talking nonsense?

So 5% seems reasonable to try for (in my limited experience).
Why was he talking nonsense. I don't follow.

the-norseman

14,502 posts

188 months

Saturday 23rd August
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Panamax said:
What "extras" are available on a used car?
usually a warranty thats not worth the paper its written on.

Jamescrs

5,434 posts

82 months

Saturday 23rd August
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cliffords said:
Why was he talking nonsense. I don't follow.
He’s probably referring to the fact you can’t get someone to sign away their consumer rights but that being said enforcing them is a very different thing, especially in this instance.

TheDrownedApe

1,461 posts

73 months

Saturday 23rd August
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cliffords said:
TheDrownedApe said:
Son bought a kia ceed gt back in March. Dealer had it at 6790 and I managed to get it, over the phone, for 6500.

Dealer claimed at that price it would be sold as trade sale; clearly I agreed but I wonder if he knew he was talking nonsense?

So 5% seems reasonable to try for (in my limited experience).
Why was he talking nonsense. I don't follow.
Trying to imply that CRA 2015 wouldn't apply to a "trade sale".