Wheelbarrow tyre, embarrassing help needed!
Wheelbarrow tyre, embarrassing help needed!
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macron

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11,954 posts

182 months

Yesterday (12:05)
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Tyre has come off, should be a piece of piss to put back on, right? I'm old, weak and incapable, any tips?

On the one side, on and fine (it's tubed, the tube is as flat as it can get)



The other, you can see how wide the sidewall is compared to the wheel



If I lever it both sides, you can see how much stretch I'll need. Save 4 or 5 hands, is there some trick anyone knows of to sort this? By the time I have half of it in, the hub is so far "in" to the tyre I can't see how I'd get it close. Will a local true fitter knacker the plastic wheel? Any other tips etc??!


sunbeam alpine

7,185 posts

204 months

Yesterday (12:15)
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Try your tyre irons at 12 & 3 instead of 12 & 6 smile

Mr Squarekins

1,349 posts

78 months

Yesterday (12:18)
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I'd put both next to each other, kneel on one whilst sliding the other round.

GasEngineer

1,551 posts

78 months

Yesterday (12:18)
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My wheelbarrow wheel is in two halves bolted together. Is yours all one piece?

FlyVintage

194 posts

7 months

Yesterday (12:20)
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The bead needs to go down into the reduced part of the rim to give you enough “slack” to work the rest of it over. Some soapy water will help.

RGG

719 posts

33 months

Yesterday (12:25)
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1) feet holding tryre down at 5 and 7.

2) first lever at 12

3) second lever at 1

4) this is where you need a third (or be VERY careful with a screwdriver possibly wrapped with tape or a neighbour's lever).

5) third lever at 2 whilst the first two levers remain in position

6) remove first lever from 12 and reinsert at 3.

7) remove second lever at 1 and reinsert at 4.

8) repeat around the circle.

This means at all times there are two levers locating the tyre on the rim.

And there's less chance of the tyre flicking off.

RGG

719 posts

33 months

Yesterday (12:26)
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FlyVintage said:
The bead needs to go down into the reduced part of the rim to give you enough “slack” to work the rest of it over. Some soapy water will help.
Yes, get the tyre as warm / hot as possible with water.


Monsterdan

16 posts

119 months

Yesterday (12:30)
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If it’s dry and barren then you won’t get it in without some lube, and the same applies to wheelbarrow tyres…

As it’s a plastic wheel then I would start off with washing up liquid and some warm water making sure that both sides of the bead can slip and slide easily into the central part of the wheel. The tyre looks well past its best, so will not be as flexible or pliable as a new one, but should go on easy enough. Once it’s on then shake well to remove any water within the wheel, and take your time when pumping it up to make sure it’s seating well.

RGG

719 posts

33 months

Yesterday (12:49)
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Second thoughts - avoid a day of pain.

Something along the lines of this - £9.99

https://www.amazon.co.uk/14-Pneumatic-Wheel-Wheelb...



Super Sonic

9,986 posts

70 months

Yesterday (12:55)
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FlyVintage said:
The bead needs to go down into the reduced part of the rim to give you enough “slack” to work the rest of it over. Some soapy water will help.
This. The wheel has a groove or valley of reduced diameter around the middle, you need to drop one side of the bead into this to give enough slack to get the rest of the bead over the rim. If you don't do this, no amount of lubing, stretching, tugging or levering will get it on.

macron

Original Poster:

11,954 posts

182 months

Yesterday (13:34)
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sunbeam alpine said:
Try your tyre irons at 12 & 3 instead of 12 & 6 smile
Even I knew that! It's the challenge of getting it into that groove that's killing me!

GasEngineer said:
My wheelbarrow wheel is in two halves bolted together. Is yours all one piece?
Yes, one piece, it it would be a bit easier!

RGG's method tried and failed, I'm off to lube up, and will report back later.

I may be some time!

phazed

22,287 posts

220 months

Yesterday (13:48)
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Lots of soapy water and about 60 psi and it will pop out in position.

21TonyK

12,473 posts

225 months

Yesterday (13:58)
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phazed said:
Lots of soapy water and about 60 psi and it will pop out in position.
Plastic wheels and high psi dont mix... my dad lost half his thumb this way.

Bill

55,968 posts

271 months

Yesterday (14:14)
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Just buy a solid wheel and never worry about this again.

macron

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11,954 posts

182 months

Yesterday (14:28)
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Right, was that 40 mins? Fixed, here are the stats

-1 bottle of fairy Max
-1 cup of tea which is why I needed
-2 kettles, having used some of the first for the tea
-2 inflation attempts, bead wasn't on properly the first time, didn't realise
-3 scraped knuckles
-4 hands needed for
-6 tyre levers of varying sizes. Didn't know I had 6, or why is ever have needed that many, but glad I did.

It's been easy to get on half way multiple times



But it defo needed the lube to get all the way



The best bit, I now get to knock down a wall to create more parking, but that might be after another cuppa.



Thank you for the helpful suggestions!

RGG

719 posts

33 months

Watcher of the skies

872 posts

53 months

Yesterday (15:32)
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There's a nasty crack on the sidewall - it'll never pass an MOT!

OutInTheShed

11,734 posts

42 months

Yesterday (15:35)
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I hate 8 inch wheels.
I seem to have to wrestle with a few a year, for sailing dinghy trolleys.

I don't use soap, but if you do, you want actual soap, not detergent like fairy liquid.

The key is absolutely getting the bead down into the middle of the wheel.

New wheels with tyres are nearly as cheap as inner tubes, but they often come with plasticky tyres which don't last a season in the sun.

macron

Original Poster:

11,954 posts

182 months

Yesterday (16:04)
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RGG said:
That would have been useful about 2 hours ago!

The next suggested reel is a good one

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DNnsn-7onPP/?igsh=c...

Watcher of the skies said:
There's a nasty crack on the sidewall - it'll never pass an MOT!
It's a risk I'll take!

Mr Squarekins

1,349 posts

78 months

Yesterday (16:27)
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I can't believe that this is Pistonheads. None here has popped up saying how 'it'll be better in the twisties on cup2s' wink