Democratic education to be rolled out in schools
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Interesting.
Democratic education to be rolled out in schools
Be good if there was a bit of focus on life skills like budgeting and providing for your retirement too but stuff like this seems more use than advanced trigonometry or half the stuff you'll never use after you leave.
Democratic education to be rolled out in schools
Be good if there was a bit of focus on life skills like budgeting and providing for your retirement too but stuff like this seems more use than advanced trigonometry or half the stuff you'll never use after you leave.
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: Interesting.
Democratic education to be rolled out in schools
Be good if there was a bit of focus on life skills like budgeting and providing for your retirement too but stuff like this seems more use than advanced trigonometry or half the stuff you'll never use after you leave.
A step in the right direction at least. Democratic education to be rolled out in schools
Be good if there was a bit of focus on life skills like budgeting and providing for your retirement too but stuff like this seems more use than advanced trigonometry or half the stuff you'll never use after you leave.
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: Interesting.
Democratic education to be rolled out in schools
Be good if there was a bit of focus on life skills like budgeting and providing for your retirement too but stuff like this seems more use than advanced trigonometry or half the stuff you'll never use after you leave.
You need trig to determine the centre of a roundabout when you are painting your cross of St George on it. Democratic education to be rolled out in schools
Be good if there was a bit of focus on life skills like budgeting and providing for your retirement too but stuff like this seems more use than advanced trigonometry or half the stuff you'll never use after you leave.
carl_w said:
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: Interesting.
Democratic education to be rolled out in schools
Be good if there was a bit of focus on life skills like budgeting and providing for your retirement too but stuff like this seems more use than advanced trigonometry or half the stuff you'll never use after you leave.
You need trig to determine the centre of a roundabout when you are painting your cross of St George on it. Democratic education to be rolled out in schools
Be good if there was a bit of focus on life skills like budgeting and providing for your retirement too but stuff like this seems more use than advanced trigonometry or half the stuff you'll never use after you leave.
Rivenink said:
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: Interesting.
Democratic education to be rolled out in schools
Be good if there was a bit of focus on life skills like budgeting and providing for your retirement too but stuff like this seems more use than advanced trigonometry or half the stuff you'll never use after you leave.
A step in the right direction at least. Democratic education to be rolled out in schools
Be good if there was a bit of focus on life skills like budgeting and providing for your retirement too but stuff like this seems more use than advanced trigonometry or half the stuff you'll never use after you leave.
Teachers can't (and shouldn't) be trusted to leave their political bias outside the school gate.
Police State said:
It's not. It will just formalise the political brainwashing of children.
Teachers can't (and shouldn't) be trusted to leave their political bias outside the school gate.
What piffle; why are they to be trusted to teach but not about politics? I expect you home-school yours if you trust schools so little.Teachers can't (and shouldn't) be trusted to leave their political bias outside the school gate.
Police State said:
Rivenink said:
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: Interesting.
Democratic education to be rolled out in schools
Be good if there was a bit of focus on life skills like budgeting and providing for your retirement too but stuff like this seems more use than advanced trigonometry or half the stuff you'll never use after you leave.
A step in the right direction at least. Democratic education to be rolled out in schools
Be good if there was a bit of focus on life skills like budgeting and providing for your retirement too but stuff like this seems more use than advanced trigonometry or half the stuff you'll never use after you leave.
Teachers can't (and shouldn't) be trusted to leave their political bias outside the school gate.
Isn’t this basically what the Americans call “civics” and have been teaching forever? I think it’s a good idea to teach the mechanics of how the country works. Relationship between MPs, parties, and government, role of the civil service, local democracy, functions of executive, legislature, and judiciary, etc
otolith said:
Isn’t this basically what the Americans call “civics” and have been teaching forever? I think it’s a good idea to teach the mechanics of how the country works. Relationship between MPs, parties, and government, role of the civil service, local democracy, functions of executive, legislature, and judiciary, etc
Yes, and it's also what we had in sixth form in my school in Hampshire in the early 2000s.It was a bolt-on module to history (leading naturally from the 19th century politics with the Reform Acts, rise of the Labour Party, Parliament Act, universal suffrage etc.) and it was taught by one of the senior history teachers.
Who, for the record, never shied away from his personal politics (a Thatcher and Reagan-worshiping Tory who exclusively drove imported American cars with huge V8 engines and wore a 'distinctive' line in double-breasted suits and kipper ties...) when discussing or debating but taught civics, political history and political philosophy in a resolutely fair and even-handed way. Being a massive Tory didn't prevent him from outlining, say, the beliefs of Marxism on its own terms and how it led to the Labour Party overtaking the SDF.
And if this new scheme is pure civics without political history or philosophy, then it hardly matters. Teaching the workings of the electoral system and the relative powers and functions of the Commons, Lords, judiciary, civil service, monarchy etc. can be done without any party or partisan politics at all.
Here in Australia, year 3 students have lessons on how the political system works, what the different houses of parliament are and how they work etc.
Often the class is asked to form three "parties", each with a leader who has to present their manifesto to the class before they vote for a "class prime minster".
In year 7 at our school they a trip to Canbera (4hrs on a plane from Perth) to visit parliament house.
Seems to work well and to me is a valuable part of their education.
Often the class is asked to form three "parties", each with a leader who has to present their manifesto to the class before they vote for a "class prime minster".
In year 7 at our school they a trip to Canbera (4hrs on a plane from Perth) to visit parliament house.
Seems to work well and to me is a valuable part of their education.
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: Interesting.
Democratic education to be rolled out in schools
Be good if there was a bit of focus on life skills like budgeting and providing for your retirement too but stuff like this seems more use than advanced trigonometry or half the stuff you'll never use after you leave.
I agree. My daughter's biggest complaint was that school never covered any meaningful lessons covering finance. We've done all that since but life is so heavily based on finance nowadays and so many have no understanding of it at all.Democratic education to be rolled out in schools
Be good if there was a bit of focus on life skills like budgeting and providing for your retirement too but stuff like this seems more use than advanced trigonometry or half the stuff you'll never use after you leave.
Although regards to the new course, it's a bit pointless IMO unless it comes with a critical thinking aspect and a heavy module covering the many duplicitous methods used by politicians and MSM to sway voters. Methods used in history and alive and well today. That would arguably be more useful.
200bhp said:
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Seems to work well and to me is a valuable part of their education.
I have no issue with teaching kids how things work.Seems to work well and to me is a valuable part of their education.
But out of interest, what does “works well" mean in this context?
One presumes engagement in politics, but how will we tell if it's moved the needle or not? And what gives way in the timetable for it?
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