Confused by this red light...

[Scarletpimpofnel]

Why is the examiner telling the pupil to stop here? Personally the red light looks to only apply to that one lane the pupil is in and there is a pedestrian crossing. So why should the pupil have kept going?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TP6LkeOEvt0

[GavC88]

The red light applies to the stop line, there is no stop line at that location. I imagine it’s a t junction and she’s turned right onto that road through a green light. The red will apply to people who would have been to her left before the turn

[RazerSauber]

The pedestrian island is causing confusion here I suspect. That traffic light will be the furthest light from the junction our driver has turned through.

[Riley Blue]

There's no pedestrian green light so the chap crossing should pause at the central island to allow the car to proceed as they're two separate crossings but as she stopped it's understandable why he didn't.

Edited by Riley Blue on Friday 29th August 11:26

[OutInTheShed]

Typical Youtube nonsense, half the story out of context.

There are some badly signaled junctions about.
I recall nearly being caught out badly by one in Bath, where a light-controlled pedestrian crossing was very close to a give way line for a junction, and I thought for a moment, when the lights turned green, I wouldn't need to give way.

[Dixy]

As said only half the information required.
But.
As pedestrians now have absolute priority and she was turning in to his road does he not have priority anyhow.

[paul_c123]

Scarletpimpofnel said:

Why is the examiner telling the pupil to stop here? Personally the red light looks to only apply to that one lane the pupil is in and there is a pedestrian crossing. So why should the pupil have kept going?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TP6LkeOEvt0

1) Its not an examiner, its an instructor.
2) The instructor is saying to keep going and the pupil is interpreting it as stopping (makes a difference!!)

The video is poor (because it starts after having obviously gone through some kind of junction) and also the camera lenses are really wide, giving a false sense of distance. If its a repeater for the previous junction, its poorly laid out and the repeater should be much closer to it, I guess they were constrained on where to stick it so they just chose a handy island 100yds up the road......

Junction might be improved with no repeater at all!

[MattyD803]

GavC88 said:

The red light applies to the stop line, there is no stop line at that location. I imagine it’s a t junction and she’s turned right onto that road through a green light. The red will apply to people who would have been to her left before the turn

Spot on - lack of stop line is the key here. Furthermore, if you look at the traffic light array, it has 4 lamps - the lowest appears to be a 'Right Hand Turn' lamp, which you simply wouldn't have at a traffic light controlled pedestrian crossing.

As above, the cropping of the video and lens has skewed the overall context, but the instructor is spot on.

[Racing Newt]

Quite a confusing scene here, the pedestrian crossing is not a pelican/zebra crossing, and as one poster has already said there is no stop line, due to the cars on the righthand side stopping before the crossing and there being a stopline there would intimate that there is a controlled crossing there.
The traffic lights should be placed nearer the junction to prevent that, i myself have had a similar event turning right from a light controlled x road, and as there was a pedestrian controlled crossing right on the x road assumed the red light was to stop me, this did produce some quite colourful remarks from other roads users in the vicinity.

[V8LM]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/MryY4QzNF7wpRCs36

She has joined the road from the right.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/Km5j7tXoPXEZABEHA

[Yellow Lizud]

V8LM said:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/MryY4QzNF7wpRCs36

She has joined the road from the right.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/Km5j7tXoPXEZABEHA

That is just fking bonkers!
Apart from the fact that the 'repeater' traffic light is much too far away from junction, who the hell builds a light controlled pedestrian crossing that only gets you half way across the road!!!?

[carl_w]

MattyD803 said:

Spot on - lack of stop line is the key here.

Round our way a lot of stop lines have worn away, so the absence of one is not authority to proceed. But we did have a junction like that where they put in a repeater (now removed...) so if you joined from green turning left the next thing you'd see was a red light.

[V8LM]

Yellow Lizud said:

V8LM said:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/MryY4QzNF7wpRCs36

She has joined the road from the right.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/Km5j7tXoPXEZABEHA

That is just fking bonkers!
Apart from the fact that the 'repeater' traffic light is much too far away from junction, who the hell builds a light controlled pedestrian crossing that only gets you half way across the road!!!?

I think the crossing isn't pedestrian controlled - can't see any buttons or signals. Maybe it once was.

[Pica-Pica]

Instructor correct, now we see the full layout. I hope the instructor did explain, as she said she would, and also let the pupil drive through again ( or preferably observe as a pavement bystander).

[Scarletpimpofnel]

Thanks all for the replies.

I should have realised the video was clickbait nonsense. In reality had it been shown from an earlier point then all would have been clear. Everything is spam/ a con nowadays!

I still learnt a few things nonetheless so many thanks.

[ac.cobra]

it does not apply to her, if the traffic lights turn green from the left, as she turned right. So there for the lights turned green for the traffic behind her.

[Bill]

Yellow Lizud said:

That is just fking bonkers!
Apart from the fact that the 'repeater' traffic light is much too far away from junction, who the hell builds a light controlled pedestrian crossing that only gets you half way across the road!!!?

I suspect at some point in the cycle all the traffic lights are red allowing pedestrians to cross each road.

[Scarletpimpofnel]

V8LM said:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/MryY4QzNF7wpRCs36

She has joined the road from the right.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/Km5j7tXoPXEZABEHA

Makes it perfectly clear thanks.

[119]

What a dumb road layout!

[No ideas for a name]

There is similar by me. The stop line, along with the traffic lights, are set back at least a couple of car lengths. It is a very 'square' turn, and I think it is done so that waiting cars don't block the tail swing of waggons turning in.

However, I once followed a Police car turning right in to this road... only for him to anchor on when he saw the red light... which of course was for the East/West direction, not turning right from our North/South road.

I don't think he liked me laughing at him.