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I’ve been to see a 570GT and was very impressed by the performance and finish. It’s at a main dealer and was very well presented.
I’m tempted by it but I do have a quite a high turnover of cars (had 9 additions/changes last year) and was at risk of being reigned in by the Mrs….
How sought after are they? A friend mentioned they can be hard to move on when the time comes and I need to take this into consideration.
Anything I should be looking out for or be aware of with them?
My takeaway impression was that it is a superb drivers car; incredibly impressive performance - which raises the question - is it too much for UK roads and therefore does it lose its appeal and ‘specialness’ if not on it all the time?Note to say I’ve become a bit of a ‘driving miss daisy’ these days due to the poor road maintenance around us and the proliferation of fixed and mobile cameras.
I’m tempted by it but I do have a quite a high turnover of cars (had 9 additions/changes last year) and was at risk of being reigned in by the Mrs….
How sought after are they? A friend mentioned they can be hard to move on when the time comes and I need to take this into consideration.
Anything I should be looking out for or be aware of with them?
My takeaway impression was that it is a superb drivers car; incredibly impressive performance - which raises the question - is it too much for UK roads and therefore does it lose its appeal and ‘specialness’ if not on it all the time?Note to say I’ve become a bit of a ‘driving miss daisy’ these days due to the poor road maintenance around us and the proliferation of fixed and mobile cameras.
Check it’s a McLaren approved car with extended warranty. Look for corrosion around the wheel arches, bonnet and doors. See what the history / servicing is like and what has been fixed by McLaren.
I had no issues with mine apart from a faulty catch on the rear screen which was fixed under warranty.
If you sell back to the main dealer expect to lose £15k - £20k but you may get a good discount on the next car. Privately you’ll lose less.
I had no expenses outside of servicing.
All Supercars are too fast for UK roads but that doesn’t mean you can’t use them or they lose their specialness.
Join SCD or McLaren owners clubs for track days, tours and events. Use the car and don’t let it sit for months on end as they run better when used.
I had no issues with mine apart from a faulty catch on the rear screen which was fixed under warranty.
If you sell back to the main dealer expect to lose £15k - £20k but you may get a good discount on the next car. Privately you’ll lose less.
I had no expenses outside of servicing.
All Supercars are too fast for UK roads but that doesn’t mean you can’t use them or they lose their specialness.
Join SCD or McLaren owners clubs for track days, tours and events. Use the car and don’t let it sit for months on end as they run better when used.
Is it the red one at Brum?
If so it has been up since Spring and come down £3k or so. However it wasn't as well spec'd as I'd expect for the price. The seats were nice, but standard stereo and no photochromic roof. I've no idea which carbon packs are which as they didn't interest me. the low mileage seems to be attracting a premium, and I think that might be actually worse than one that has been used.
There's a silver one a few miles up the road for a chunk less alleging the remnants of a McWarranty so could be on SoR. Not their usual fodder so treat it as a private sale. Personally that car there feels 'wrong'.
If so it has been up since Spring and come down £3k or so. However it wasn't as well spec'd as I'd expect for the price. The seats were nice, but standard stereo and no photochromic roof. I've no idea which carbon packs are which as they didn't interest me. the low mileage seems to be attracting a premium, and I think that might be actually worse than one that has been used.
There's a silver one a few miles up the road for a chunk less alleging the remnants of a McWarranty so could be on SoR. Not their usual fodder so treat it as a private sale. Personally that car there feels 'wrong'.
I had an MSO Black Edition 570GT 6-7 years ago, great car, amazing spec ( none more black! ) including plus carbon ceramics, sports exhaust, panoramic roof, MSO interior etc etc. I'm not sure they reach much of a premium but it's worth doing a comparison with whatever's available at the time. I loved the car, it was reliable, looked the part, sounded great etc. Things to look out for at this age would probably be paint, door hinges can be an issue too, but to be fair those problems would've manifested themselves by now. All in all a stunning car, worth considering.
Thanks folks. The car I’m considering is a McLaren approved car so will be serviced and comes with McLaren warranty. Looking at prices they are very mileage sensitive in a way that reminds me Ferraris were 10-15 years ago (and to an extent still are).
Unfortunately I’ve been low balled on the car I was going to PX so having to rethink it as I’m planning on a bit of a swap around over the next couple of months.
Unfortunately I’ve been low balled on the car I was going to PX so having to rethink it as I’m planning on a bit of a swap around over the next couple of months.
ex-devonpaul said:
Is it the red one at Brum?
If so it has been up since Spring and come down £3k or so. However it wasn't as well spec'd as I'd expect for the price. The seats were nice, but standard stereo and no photochromic roof. I've no idea which carbon packs are which as they didn't interest me. the low mileage seems to be attracting a premium, and I think that might be actually worse than one that has been used.
There's a silver one a few miles up the road for a chunk less alleging the remnants of a McWarranty so could be on SoR. Not their usual fodder so treat it as a private sale. Personally that car there feels 'wrong'.
Are we talking about this one: https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/19196782If so it has been up since Spring and come down £3k or so. However it wasn't as well spec'd as I'd expect for the price. The seats were nice, but standard stereo and no photochromic roof. I've no idea which carbon packs are which as they didn't interest me. the low mileage seems to be attracting a premium, and I think that might be actually worse than one that has been used.
There's a silver one a few miles up the road for a chunk less alleging the remnants of a McWarranty so could be on SoR. Not their usual fodder so treat it as a private sale. Personally that car there feels 'wrong'.
Looks amazing and low miles.
Can't work out if it has ceramic or steel brakes.
Not sure if I want ceramics - they're £5K a wheel and can go pop quite easy right? Plus they only last what 50-60,000 miles?
Anybody have any other thoughts on it?
Just LOVE the colour and the interior.
I've got a similar coloured Lotus Emira right now - but a swap is always on the cards.......
jamesgareth said:
ex-devonpaul said:
Is it the red one at Brum?
If so it has been up since Spring and come down £3k or so. However it wasn't as well spec'd as I'd expect for the price. The seats were nice, but standard stereo and no photochromic roof. I've no idea which carbon packs are which as they didn't interest me. the low mileage seems to be attracting a premium, and I think that might be actually worse than one that has been used.
There's a silver one a few miles up the road for a chunk less alleging the remnants of a McWarranty so could be on SoR. Not their usual fodder so treat it as a private sale. Personally that car there feels 'wrong'.
Are we talking about this one: https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/19196782If so it has been up since Spring and come down £3k or so. However it wasn't as well spec'd as I'd expect for the price. The seats were nice, but standard stereo and no photochromic roof. I've no idea which carbon packs are which as they didn't interest me. the low mileage seems to be attracting a premium, and I think that might be actually worse than one that has been used.
There's a silver one a few miles up the road for a chunk less alleging the remnants of a McWarranty so could be on SoR. Not their usual fodder so treat it as a private sale. Personally that car there feels 'wrong'.
Looks amazing and low miles.
Can't work out if it has ceramic or steel brakes.
Not sure if I want ceramics - they're £5K a wheel and can go pop quite easy right? Plus they only last what 50-60,000 miles?
Anybody have any other thoughts on it?
Just LOVE the colour and the interior.
I've got a similar coloured Lotus Emira right now - but a swap is always on the cards.......
Get a proper inspection, check the history, etc.
There look to be cheaper options now as well for Ceramic discs, and should be much better quality. (No first hand experience, see this from the Porsche forum)
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
simon_j said:
It s got steel brakes. No, ceramics won t go pop if you look after them.
Get a proper inspection, check the history, etc.
How do you get a proper inspection BEFORE you buy? Will they allow that? Who would I get to do such a thing. I presume Thorney won't send people all that way - how does this work?Get a proper inspection, check the history, etc.
My Lotus Emira was only a few months old when I bought it so I never saw the need - but buying a McLaren that's eight years old with all the things that can possibly go wrong......
jamesgareth said:
simon_j said:
It s got steel brakes. No, ceramics won t go pop if you look after them.
Get a proper inspection, check the history, etc.
How do you get a proper inspection BEFORE you buy? Will they allow that? Who would I get to do such a thing. I presume Thorney won't send people all that way - how does this work?Get a proper inspection, check the history, etc.
My Lotus Emira was only a few months old when I bought it so I never saw the need - but buying a McLaren that's eight years old with all the things that can possibly go wrong......
I’ve always bought McLaren qualified cars to avoid this process but you may get a bargain buying from a non-specialist dealer but with added risk if you don’t get a PPI.
It’s no different to buying any car, it’s just the bills could be bigger if you get caught out. Getting the car on a ramp with the under trays off can highlight oil leaks, checking the springs/suspension on an eight year old car is probably wise. Running it through the McLaren diagnostics, looking for paint issues, checking dealer history are all things that should be done.
My first one was a 570GT and it was a great car bought from a McLaren dealer. They replaced the front steel discs as part of their PPI process and the car was perfect when I picked it up. I had no issues apart from getting the rear window latch replaced under the qualified warranty.
This is exactly the procedure I followed.
Deal provisionally agreed with Trader for 650S - subject to Thorney Inspection
£2000 deposit paid (returnable if car not as described per email to that effect).
I specified Thorney did the PPI and the Trader covered the PPI cost, transport etc.
He trailered the car from Leicester to Brackley for PPI
I got a call from Thorney, 5 minute discussion, no clap trap, is it a good car? Yes.
PPI emailed through. All proper and professional as they are.
One fault found, Trader agreed replacement part.
Deal Done
Thorney know these cars better than the Dealer network, and they are Independent, and they are honest.
Once I had the PPI, no warranty required.
Deal provisionally agreed with Trader for 650S - subject to Thorney Inspection
£2000 deposit paid (returnable if car not as described per email to that effect).
I specified Thorney did the PPI and the Trader covered the PPI cost, transport etc.
He trailered the car from Leicester to Brackley for PPI
I got a call from Thorney, 5 minute discussion, no clap trap, is it a good car? Yes.
PPI emailed through. All proper and professional as they are.
One fault found, Trader agreed replacement part.
Deal Done
Thorney know these cars better than the Dealer network, and they are Independent, and they are honest.
Once I had the PPI, no warranty required.
650S said:
This is exactly the procedure I followed.
Deal provisionally agreed with Trader for 650S - subject to Thorney Inspection
£2000 deposit paid (returnable if car not as described per email to that effect).
I specified Thorney did the PPI and the Trader covered the PPI cost, transport etc.
He trailered the car from Leicester to Brackley for PPI
I got a call from Thorney, 5 minute discussion, no clap trap, is it a good car? Yes.
PPI emailed through. All proper and professional as they are.
One fault found, Trader agreed replacement part.
Deal Done
Thorney know these cars better than the Dealer network, and they are Independent, and they are honest.
Once I had the PPI, no warranty required.
How long did you have to wait for Thorney to do the PPI, from when you agreed the terms with the dealer?Deal provisionally agreed with Trader for 650S - subject to Thorney Inspection
£2000 deposit paid (returnable if car not as described per email to that effect).
I specified Thorney did the PPI and the Trader covered the PPI cost, transport etc.
He trailered the car from Leicester to Brackley for PPI
I got a call from Thorney, 5 minute discussion, no clap trap, is it a good car? Yes.
PPI emailed through. All proper and professional as they are.
One fault found, Trader agreed replacement part.
Deal Done
Thorney know these cars better than the Dealer network, and they are Independent, and they are honest.
Once I had the PPI, no warranty required.
The way it worked was, I stayed out of the PPI arrangements, Thorney somehow accommodated the inspection for the Trader within a week or two from memory, but the repair (a hydraulic PAS line that had a small weep) was delayed a few weeks while the part was ordered and due to their schedule.
I find Thorney try hard to be helpful, - they are doing the 40k service on the 650 in a couple of weeks for me.
simon_j said:
Any franchise dealer or independent such as V / Thorney can do a PPI. You would get the car trailered there and back at your cost and then pay roughly £400-£500 for the PPI. If they don t agree to letting the car go for an inspection at a McLaren specialist I d walk away. If they do agree then you should have an agreement in place that they will fix any issues or discount the price. But the choice is yours of course.
I ve always bought McLaren qualified cars to avoid this process but you may get a bargain buying from a non-specialist dealer but with added risk if you don t get a PPI.
It s no different to buying any car, it s just the bills could be bigger if you get caught out. Getting the car on a ramp with the under trays off can highlight oil leaks, checking the springs/suspension on an eight year old car is probably wise. Running it through the McLaren diagnostics, looking for paint issues, checking dealer history are all things that should be done.
My first one was a 570GT and it was a great car bought from a McLaren dealer. They replaced the front steel discs as part of their PPI process and the car was perfect when I picked it up. I had no issues apart from getting the rear window latch replaced under the qualified warranty.
Excellent thanks.I ve always bought McLaren qualified cars to avoid this process but you may get a bargain buying from a non-specialist dealer but with added risk if you don t get a PPI.
It s no different to buying any car, it s just the bills could be bigger if you get caught out. Getting the car on a ramp with the under trays off can highlight oil leaks, checking the springs/suspension on an eight year old car is probably wise. Running it through the McLaren diagnostics, looking for paint issues, checking dealer history are all things that should be done.
My first one was a 570GT and it was a great car bought from a McLaren dealer. They replaced the front steel discs as part of their PPI process and the car was perfect when I picked it up. I had no issues apart from getting the rear window latch replaced under the qualified warranty.
650S said:
This is exactly the procedure I followed.
Deal provisionally agreed with Trader for 650S - subject to Thorney Inspection
£2000 deposit paid (returnable if car not as described per email to that effect).
I specified Thorney did the PPI and the Trader covered the PPI cost, transport etc.
He trailered the car from Leicester to Brackley for PPI
I got a call from Thorney, 5 minute discussion, no clap trap, is it a good car? Yes.
PPI emailed through. All proper and professional as they are.
One fault found, Trader agreed replacement part.
Deal Done
Thorney know these cars better than the Dealer network, and they are Independent, and they are honest.
Once I had the PPI, no warranty required.
Thanks.Deal provisionally agreed with Trader for 650S - subject to Thorney Inspection
£2000 deposit paid (returnable if car not as described per email to that effect).
I specified Thorney did the PPI and the Trader covered the PPI cost, transport etc.
He trailered the car from Leicester to Brackley for PPI
I got a call from Thorney, 5 minute discussion, no clap trap, is it a good car? Yes.
PPI emailed through. All proper and professional as they are.
One fault found, Trader agreed replacement part.
Deal Done
Thorney know these cars better than the Dealer network, and they are Independent, and they are honest.
Once I had the PPI, no warranty required.
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