A couple of handcuff questions
Discussion
For those here who unfortunately sometimes have to use them…
Idle question, not related to me or anyone else!
1) Have you ever arrested someone with a plaster cast or similar on their arm/wrist, and if so, how do you deal with the handcuff aspect (I assume they wouldn’t fit, plus safety aspects)?
2) US police seem to use a little ‘tool’ on what I assume is the locking mechanism - is it the same here, and what does it do?
Ta!
Idle question, not related to me or anyone else!
1) Have you ever arrested someone with a plaster cast or similar on their arm/wrist, and if so, how do you deal with the handcuff aspect (I assume they wouldn’t fit, plus safety aspects)?
2) US police seem to use a little ‘tool’ on what I assume is the locking mechanism - is it the same here, and what does it do?
Ta!
Alex Z said:
The pin on the reverse of the key is used to lock the ratchet mechanism so it won’t tighten any further, reducing the risk of injury to your prisoner.
That's only part of the reason for the 'deadlock' feature on handcuffs, the other reason is to stop people shimming the ratchet mechanism to open the cuffs without a key.If the handcuffs are 'deadlocked' by pushing the pin to lock the ratchet you have to turn the key backwards to unlock the ratchet before turning it forwards to unlock the cuffs.
ChevronB19 said:
For those here who unfortunately sometimes have to use them…
Idle question, not related to me or anyone else!
1) Have you ever arrested someone with a plaster cast or similar on their arm/wrist, and if so, how do you deal with the handcuff aspect (I assume they wouldn’t fit, plus safety aspects)?
2) US police seem to use a little ‘tool’ on what I assume is the locking mechanism - is it the same here, and what does it do?
Ta!
Would they not cuff the other arm that isn't plastered?Idle question, not related to me or anyone else!
1) Have you ever arrested someone with a plaster cast or similar on their arm/wrist, and if so, how do you deal with the handcuff aspect (I assume they wouldn’t fit, plus safety aspects)?
2) US police seem to use a little ‘tool’ on what I assume is the locking mechanism - is it the same here, and what does it do?
Ta!
Dog Biscuit said:
ChevronB19 said:
For those here who unfortunately sometimes have to use them…
Idle question, not related to me or anyone else!
1) Have you ever arrested someone with a plaster cast or similar on their arm/wrist, and if so, how do you deal with the handcuff aspect (I assume they wouldn’t fit, plus safety aspects)?
2) US police seem to use a little ‘tool’ on what I assume is the locking mechanism - is it the same here, and what does it do?
Ta!
Would they not cuff the other arm that isn't plastered?Idle question, not related to me or anyone else!
1) Have you ever arrested someone with a plaster cast or similar on their arm/wrist, and if so, how do you deal with the handcuff aspect (I assume they wouldn’t fit, plus safety aspects)?
2) US police seem to use a little ‘tool’ on what I assume is the locking mechanism - is it the same here, and what does it do?
Ta!
ChevronB19 said:
For those here who unfortunately sometimes have to use them…
Idle question, not related to me or anyone else!
1) Have you ever arrested someone with a plaster cast or similar on their arm/wrist, and if so, how do you deal with the handcuff aspect (I assume they wouldn’t fit, plus safety aspects)?
2) US police seem to use a little ‘tool’ on what I assume is the locking mechanism - is it the same here, and what does it do?
Ta!
Handcuff the none injured arm to their belt or belt loop.Idle question, not related to me or anyone else!
1) Have you ever arrested someone with a plaster cast or similar on their arm/wrist, and if so, how do you deal with the handcuff aspect (I assume they wouldn’t fit, plus safety aspects)?
2) US police seem to use a little ‘tool’ on what I assume is the locking mechanism - is it the same here, and what does it do?
Ta!
If that's not an option, you accept the risk and don't handcuff.
I speak from experience.
spikeyhead said:
seabod91 said:
Anyone know what metal they are made out of ? Always used to get a massive allergic reaction from them.
Probably bright nickel platedOn the topic, is there anywhere you can buy legitimate handcuffs. Or any authentic police gear for that matter. My 4 year old son is massively into police at the moment. Obviously the plastic cuffs last about 10 minutes before snapping and the cheap metal ones not much longer.
You can get them used from numerous places online, you probably want to search for rigid handcuffs, however you need to be really careful with them as they can easily cause nasty injuries. I know it's for your kid etc but even still, keep them secure when he's not playing with them. Also, second hand ex-issued ones will have been on the wrists of some colourful characters, so maybe brand new is the way to go.
Buy about 10 spare keys as well!. Get a long cuff key, much easier to use than the little ones that come with the cuffs.
In fact, thinking about it chain links would be easier/safer for a kid, something like these would be better than rigid for play time etc.
https://www.police-supplies.co.uk/kombat-uk-deluxe...
Buy about 10 spare keys as well!. Get a long cuff key, much easier to use than the little ones that come with the cuffs.
In fact, thinking about it chain links would be easier/safer for a kid, something like these would be better than rigid for play time etc.
https://www.police-supplies.co.uk/kombat-uk-deluxe...
Greendubber said:
You can get them used from numerous places online, you probably want to search for rigid handcuffs, however you need to be really careful with them as they can easily cause nasty injuries. I know it's for your kid etc but even still, keep them secure when he's not playing with them. Also, second hand ex-issued ones will have been on the wrists of some colourful characters, so maybe brand new is the way to go.
Buy about 10 spare keys as well!. Get a long cuff key, much easier to use than the little ones that come with the cuffs.
In fact, thinking about it chain links would be easier/safer for a kid, something like these would be better than rigid for play time etc.
https://www.police-supplies.co.uk/kombat-uk-deluxe...
That is just what I’m looking for cheers. Buy about 10 spare keys as well!. Get a long cuff key, much easier to use than the little ones that come with the cuffs.
In fact, thinking about it chain links would be easier/safer for a kid, something like these would be better than rigid for play time etc.
https://www.police-supplies.co.uk/kombat-uk-deluxe...
seabod91 said:
Greendubber said:
You can get them used from numerous places online, you probably want to search for rigid handcuffs, however you need to be really careful with them as they can easily cause nasty injuries. I know it's for your kid etc but even still, keep them secure when he's not playing with them. Also, second hand ex-issued ones will have been on the wrists of some colourful characters, so maybe brand new is the way to go.
Buy about 10 spare keys as well!. Get a long cuff key, much easier to use than the little ones that come with the cuffs.
In fact, thinking about it chain links would be easier/safer for a kid, something like these would be better than rigid for play time etc.
https://www.police-supplies.co.uk/kombat-uk-deluxe...
That is just what I’m looking for cheers. Buy about 10 spare keys as well!. Get a long cuff key, much easier to use than the little ones that come with the cuffs.
In fact, thinking about it chain links would be easier/safer for a kid, something like these would be better than rigid for play time etc.
https://www.police-supplies.co.uk/kombat-uk-deluxe...
I think the basic ones we used in HM Prisons for escorts of lower category prisoners were made by Hiatts of Birmingham. They were the simple ratchet type as described above. Funnily though the cuff keys were all identical and available on Birmingham market pre internet. The Cat A cuffs though were another level and solidity with Chubb locks.
google rigid bar handcuffs - £20 off eBay.
as said tho, massive damage can be done to wrist with them. even more so if you dint know what you're doing.
best equaliser you can have, once one cuff is on its good night. pain compliance is instant.
funny thing is the big they are the more it hurts! its the thin wiggly ones that they work the least on!
as said tho, massive damage can be done to wrist with them. even more so if you dint know what you're doing.
best equaliser you can have, once one cuff is on its good night. pain compliance is instant.
funny thing is the big they are the more it hurts! its the thin wiggly ones that they work the least on!
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