Servicing Dads Car
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Hi,
My dad's no longer driving so I bought his 2015 Nissan Juke 1.6 CVT 47K on the clock. I was looking to get a full service and a bit more namely, CVT oil/service, coolant & power steering fluid. I asked a local garage with a good rep and recommendations. They said they don't service transmissions and they wouldn't recommend changing the coolant and power-steering fluid. They said likely-hood is that it could lead to issues, 'if it isn't broke don't fix it'. I felt like saying the engine is fine, should I not bother changing the oil then, I didn't say it because it sound's a bit flippant but I was tempted. I asked them if they use dealership servicing parts, they said they don't, they use Mahle filters & Mannol. Should I give these guys a miss? Or am I reading too much into the coolant/power-steering fluid change. Should I change the coolant & power-steering? Should I find some to service the CVT?
Thanks
Hayden
My dad's no longer driving so I bought his 2015 Nissan Juke 1.6 CVT 47K on the clock. I was looking to get a full service and a bit more namely, CVT oil/service, coolant & power steering fluid. I asked a local garage with a good rep and recommendations. They said they don't service transmissions and they wouldn't recommend changing the coolant and power-steering fluid. They said likely-hood is that it could lead to issues, 'if it isn't broke don't fix it'. I felt like saying the engine is fine, should I not bother changing the oil then, I didn't say it because it sound's a bit flippant but I was tempted. I asked them if they use dealership servicing parts, they said they don't, they use Mahle filters & Mannol. Should I give these guys a miss? Or am I reading too much into the coolant/power-steering fluid change. Should I change the coolant & power-steering? Should I find some to service the CVT?
Thanks
Hayden
the-norseman said:
Get a brake fluid tester for a few £, if it needs doing it needs doing.
Useful for the brake fluid, less so for power steering or coolant. Although brake fluid replacement is probably a good idea.Assuming you don't do something silly (like replacing with the wrong fluid), I can't see how the garage's "could lead to issues" makes any sense. Old oil in the CVT g/box sounds like a bad idea to me.
If it were me I might think about not using them again.
Edited by OverSteery on Thursday 11th September 16:51
I would err on the side of caution given the car is 10 years old and say yes to getting a transmission oil change done somewhere where they know what they're doing.
Check whether there's a filter in the system as that ought to be replaced at the same time.
The same with changing the coolant, for what it's worth.
Check whether there's a filter in the system as that ought to be replaced at the same time.
The same with changing the coolant, for what it's worth.
The local garage might have given that reply because it's a job they don't want to do.
The CVT in Nissans doesn't have the best of reputations for reliability. They won't want the hassle of someone bringing a broken car back in 6 months time claiming that the garage must have damaged it when replacing the wrong oil.
It also might be a really difficult part of the car to work on - given the wierd packaging and bodywork design on those cars I wouldn't be surprised it you had to dismantle a huge amount of it just to get at the transmission.
The CVT in Nissans doesn't have the best of reputations for reliability. They won't want the hassle of someone bringing a broken car back in 6 months time claiming that the garage must have damaged it when replacing the wrong oil.
It also might be a really difficult part of the car to work on - given the wierd packaging and bodywork design on those cars I wouldn't be surprised it you had to dismantle a huge amount of it just to get at the transmission.
Brake fluid replacement is recommended as the water absorption of the fluid leads to corrosion of the bores and eventual seizure BUT trying to bleed modern calipers made of cheese can lead to seized bleed nipples and more troubles.
(so many words I had to look up the spelling of, didn't even try hygr.. hydro,,, so went for absorption and there's another stupid spelling)
(so many words I had to look up the spelling of, didn't even try hygr.. hydro,,, so went for absorption and there's another stupid spelling)
k off mate"Maybe worth finding a jap specialist if you after the works like gearbox service. Especially as it’s cvt.
Yes it should be serviced if you want to give it the best chance at lasting. The only time to really question if it’s worth doing is if the gearbox is already acting up. A failing gearbox can be finished by an oil change.
Yes it should be serviced if you want to give it the best chance at lasting. The only time to really question if it’s worth doing is if the gearbox is already acting up. A failing gearbox can be finished by an oil change.
YoungFireOldFlame said:
Hi,
I asked them if they use dealership servicing parts, they said they don't, they use Mahle filters & Mannol. Should I give these guys a miss?
Mahle are OK, although I usually use Mann.I asked them if they use dealership servicing parts, they said they don't, they use Mahle filters & Mannol. Should I give these guys a miss?
I wouldn't touch mannol oil - there have been issues with them claiming that it meets specs that it doesnt.
https://ukla-vls.org.uk/news/vls-newsletter-august...
TooLateForAName said:
YoungFireOldFlame said:
Hi,
I asked them if they use dealership servicing parts, they said they don't, they use Mahle filters & Mannol. Should I give these guys a miss?
Mahle are OK, although I usually use Mann.I asked them if they use dealership servicing parts, they said they don't, they use Mahle filters & Mannol. Should I give these guys a miss?
I wouldn't touch mannol oil - there have been issues with them claiming that it meets specs that it doesnt.
https://ukla-vls.org.uk/news/vls-newsletter-august...
- and since that latest newsletter is from last month it doesn't seem like they are improving.I use https://www.smithandallan.com/ who are members of all the associations and distribution partners with Shell.
Customer service is excellent too.
Pica-Pica said:
daqinggregg said:
If your father is no longer driving, why do you want to keep the car, hardly a desirable, liquidate it and put the money to better use?
This. I would sell it. Avoids tax, insurance, MOT, SORN, worries.If not, a Nissan dealer for service.
We know nothing of the circumstances surrounding whether this would be an additional or replacement vehicle but you've both posted based on assumptions.
YoungFireOldFlame said:
Hi,
My dad's no longer driving so I bought his 2015 Nissan Juke 1.6 CVT 47K on the clock. I was looking to get a full service and a bit more namely, CVT oil/service, coolant & power steering fluid. I asked a local garage with a good rep and recommendations. They said they don't service transmissions and they wouldn't recommend changing the coolant and power-steering fluid. They said likely-hood is that it could lead to issues, 'if it isn't broke don't fix it'. I felt like saying the engine is fine, should I not bother changing the oil then, I didn't say it because it sound's a bit flippant but I was tempted. I asked them if they use dealership servicing parts, they said they don't, they use Mahle filters & Mannol. Should I give these guys a miss? Or am I reading too much into the coolant/power-steering fluid change. Should I change the coolant & power-steering? Should I find some to service the CVT?
Thanks
Hayden
Does the CVT need a special protocol to follow for servicing like a ZF 6HP auto for example (rather than literally drain and replace the fluid)? If that's the case, I'd take to a specialist who knows what they are doing rather than a rando local garage.My dad's no longer driving so I bought his 2015 Nissan Juke 1.6 CVT 47K on the clock. I was looking to get a full service and a bit more namely, CVT oil/service, coolant & power steering fluid. I asked a local garage with a good rep and recommendations. They said they don't service transmissions and they wouldn't recommend changing the coolant and power-steering fluid. They said likely-hood is that it could lead to issues, 'if it isn't broke don't fix it'. I felt like saying the engine is fine, should I not bother changing the oil then, I didn't say it because it sound's a bit flippant but I was tempted. I asked them if they use dealership servicing parts, they said they don't, they use Mahle filters & Mannol. Should I give these guys a miss? Or am I reading too much into the coolant/power-steering fluid change. Should I change the coolant & power-steering? Should I find some to service the CVT?
Thanks
Hayden
TBF, I've never routinely drained and replaced either coolant or PAS fluid as part of servicing.
No problem with Mahle filters (Though I typically use MANN).
I'd focus on doing oil, oil filter, air filter, spark plugs, pollen filter, brake fluid and maybe consider fuel filter.
TooLateForAName said:
YoungFireOldFlame said:
Hi,
I asked them if they use dealership servicing parts, they said they don't, they use Mahle filters & Mannol. Should I give these guys a miss?
Mahle are OK, although I usually use Mann.I asked them if they use dealership servicing parts, they said they don't, they use Mahle filters & Mannol. Should I give these guys a miss?
I wouldn't touch mannol oil - there have been issues with them claiming that it meets specs that it doesnt.
https://ukla-vls.org.uk/news/vls-newsletter-august...
I've used Mannol in a few cars and one of my road/race cars. Haven't had any cause for concern. Usually some offers on autodoc or ebay. ( and it's in my daily at present too )
That said, for the low mileage and a rather mundane car....just drive it for a bit and sell it. Use the money towards something nicer. Pumping a lot of money into fairly non-essential items does seem a bit frivolous unless you really do intend to keep the car for several years and use it regularly.
Maybe do engine oil and fuel filter, air filter etc and be done at a very basic "service", maybe a quick brake check to ensure nothing is seized up if it has seen very infrequent use.
Just in case there are other more important items need looked at.
There is a lot to be said for if it ain't broke, don't fix it and at least the garage has been honest with you, rather than simply taking your money and maybe not doing much at all.
And whilst brake fluid has a service schedule....I'd say rarely is it ever changed.
That said, for the low mileage and a rather mundane car....just drive it for a bit and sell it. Use the money towards something nicer. Pumping a lot of money into fairly non-essential items does seem a bit frivolous unless you really do intend to keep the car for several years and use it regularly.
Maybe do engine oil and fuel filter, air filter etc and be done at a very basic "service", maybe a quick brake check to ensure nothing is seized up if it has seen very infrequent use.
Just in case there are other more important items need looked at.
There is a lot to be said for if it ain't broke, don't fix it and at least the garage has been honest with you, rather than simply taking your money and maybe not doing much at all.
And whilst brake fluid has a service schedule....I'd say rarely is it ever changed.
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