Blimey, did I get lucky?
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Ber100

Original Poster:

165 posts

119 months

Not sure if I got lucky last night or to expect an NIP in post!

Joined a quiet motorway circa 7.30 last night but rush of blood joining prob took me to circa 90, but then slowed right back down to 75, only to then spot marked Volvo behind me. He proceeded to pull up alongside me slowly and just look across sternly while I held hand up to apologise then off he went!

Lucky boy or expect an NIP? Plus certain reminder to self to curb any rushes of blood!!

jonsp

1,273 posts

173 months

Sounds like a good guy. He gave you a hard stare, you'd knew you'd done wrong and he knew you knew. Our policemen are wonderful.

Surely if he wanted to make something of it he'd have had to pull you over?

RSTurboPaul

12,206 posts

275 months

Not sure why it is a 'rush of blood' to be wanting to do a perfectly reasonable 90 on an empty motorway, that is standard cruising speed for anyone wanting to actually get anywhere, isn't it?

70 is a stupidly low limit and needs lifting.


IIRC you'd have been stopped and given a verbal NIP so plod seem to have been happy to have given you a reminder (to work on your observation wink ).

snotrag

15,219 posts

228 months

Traffic Police are people too you know... Respond in the correct manner - and they also tend to respond accordingly.


Its the attitude test!


paul_c123

1,138 posts

10 months

RSTurboPaul said:
Not sure why it is a 'rush of blood' to be wanting to do a perfectly reasonable 90 on an empty motorway, that is standard cruising speed for anyone wanting to actually get anywhere, isn't it?

70 is a stupidly low limit and needs lifting.


IIRC you'd have been stopped and given a verbal NIP so plod seem to have been happy to have given you a reminder (to work on your observation wink ).
So you want the speed differential between HGVs and faster cars to be 34mph instead of 14mph?

Riley Blue

22,526 posts

243 months

Ber100 said:
Not sure if I got lucky last night or to expect an NIP in post!

Joined a quiet motorway circa 7.30 last night but rush of blood joining prob took me to circa 90, but then slowed right back down to 75, only to then spot marked Volvo behind me. He proceeded to pull up alongside me slowly and just look across sternly while I held hand up to apologise then off he went!

Lucky boy or expect an NIP? Plus certain reminder to self to curb any rushes of blood!!
I had exactly that one night on a deserted M3; sensible policing (for a change).

RSTurboPaul

12,206 posts

275 months

paul_c123 said:
RSTurboPaul said:
Not sure why it is a 'rush of blood' to be wanting to do a perfectly reasonable 90 on an empty motorway, that is standard cruising speed for anyone wanting to actually get anywhere, isn't it?

70 is a stupidly low limit and needs lifting.


IIRC you'd have been stopped and given a verbal NIP so plod seem to have been happy to have given you a reminder (to work on your observation wink ).
So you want the speed differential between HGVs and faster cars to be 34mph instead of 14mph?
I guess we could raise the HGV limit too now you mention it...

E-bmw

11,306 posts

169 months

RSTurboPaul said:
paul_c123 said:
RSTurboPaul said:
Not sure why it is a 'rush of blood' to be wanting to do a perfectly reasonable 90 on an empty motorway, that is standard cruising speed for anyone wanting to actually get anywhere, isn't it?

70 is a stupidly low limit and needs lifting.


IIRC you'd have been stopped and given a verbal NIP so plod seem to have been happy to have given you a reminder (to work on your observation wink ).
So you want the speed differential between HGVs and faster cars to be 34mph instead of 14mph?
I guess we could raise the HGV limit too now you mention it...
Perfect!

44 tonners barrelling down the motorway at 90, now you are talking stopping distances!

paul_c123

1,138 posts

10 months

RSTurboPaul said:
I guess we could raise the HGV limit too now you mention it...
Do you realise the speed limit for HGVs is already 4mph above the speed limiter max setting?

RSTurboPaul

12,206 posts

275 months

E-bmw said:
RSTurboPaul said:
paul_c123 said:
RSTurboPaul said:
Not sure why it is a 'rush of blood' to be wanting to do a perfectly reasonable 90 on an empty motorway, that is standard cruising speed for anyone wanting to actually get anywhere, isn't it?

70 is a stupidly low limit and needs lifting.


IIRC you'd have been stopped and given a verbal NIP so plod seem to have been happy to have given you a reminder (to work on your observation wink ).
So you want the speed differential between HGVs and faster cars to be 34mph instead of 14mph?
I guess we could raise the HGV limit too now you mention it...
Perfect!

44 tonners barrelling down the motorway at 90, now you are talking stopping distances!
Drivers of all vehicles should be driving at a speed from which they can stop in the distance they can see and reasonably expect to be clear.

RSTurboPaul

12,206 posts

275 months

paul_c123 said:
RSTurboPaul said:
I guess we could raise the HGV limit too now you mention it...
Do you realise the speed limit for HGVs is already 4mph above the speed limiter max setting?
I do.

Due to eu directives, isn't it?

https://hgvtrainingglasgowuk.co.uk/why-do-heavy-go...

I am not sure why manufacturers/operators do not/cannot implement changeable limiters to allow 60mph running in england and wales.

Heaveho

6,362 posts

191 months

paul_c123 said:
RSTurboPaul said:
Not sure why it is a 'rush of blood' to be wanting to do a perfectly reasonable 90 on an empty motorway, that is standard cruising speed for anyone wanting to actually get anywhere, isn't it?

70 is a stupidly low limit and needs lifting.


IIRC you'd have been stopped and given a verbal NIP so plod seem to have been happy to have given you a reminder (to work on your observation wink ).
So you want the speed differential between HGVs and faster cars to be 34mph instead of 14mph?
In the real world it already is. I've been regularly driving between Newcastle and Southampton for 27 years at as close to a ton as possible for as much of the trip as possible. It's absolutely no problem if you have anything about you as a driver. If you aren't comfortable with it, that's fine, but it isn't dangerous.

paul_c123

1,138 posts

10 months

Heaveho said:
In the real world it already is. I've been regularly driving between Newcastle and Southampton for 27 years at as close to a ton as possible for as much of the trip as possible. It's absolutely no problem if you have anything about you as a driver. If you aren't comfortable with it, that's fine, but it isn't dangerous.
Ok let's take a scenario on a 3 lane motorway:

Lane 1: fully laden HGV at 55.5mph
Lane 2: empty HGV at 56mph, validly overtaking the laden one
Lane 3: Heaveho and others streaming along at 90mph

A plebeian in a Peugeot 208 is tootling along at 70mph in lane 1 some distance back, and eventually catches up. They have slowed to 56mph, pull into lane 2, then indicate to overtake using lane 3. But there's a string of 90mph cars. Do they just pull out or wait for a gap?

If the differential in speed was 14mph, they have a reasonable chance of pulling out and being able to accelerate so as to not impede those in lane 3. If its 34mph.........

Are you happy to go at 90mph but take it down to 70 to let the plebs out?

RSTurboPaul

12,206 posts

275 months

paul_c123 said:
Heaveho said:
In the real world it already is. I've been regularly driving between Newcastle and Southampton for 27 years at as close to a ton as possible for as much of the trip as possible. It's absolutely no problem if you have anything about you as a driver. If you aren't comfortable with it, that's fine, but it isn't dangerous.
Ok let's take a scenario on a 3 lane motorway:

Lane 1: fully laden HGV at 55.5mph
Lane 2: empty HGV at 56mph, validly overtaking the laden one
Lane 3: Heaveho and others streaming along at 90mph

A plebeian in a Peugeot 208 is tootling along at 70mph in lane 1 some distance back, and eventually catches up. They have slowed to 56mph, pull into lane 2, then indicate to overtake using lane 3. But there's a string of 90mph cars. Do they just pull out or wait for a gap?

If the differential in speed was 14mph, they have a reasonable chance of pulling out and being able to accelerate so as to not impede those in lane 3. If its 34mph.........

Are you happy to go at 90mph but take it down to 70 to let the plebs out?
I see we are doing 'whataboutism' today wink


The obvious answer is that there will never be a constant stream of 90mph traffic with drivers not lifting to allow vehicles in to overtake - behaviour would not differ from that already displayed today, whereby slower vehicles are let in to overtake, and if anything, drivers would be more accommodating because they would not feel artificially constrained by the outdated 70mph limit that moron road captains with speed limiters slavishly/mindlessly obey in lane 3 while holding everyone up who is driving to the actual conditions rather than a number on a pole.

MustangGT

13,470 posts

297 months

RSTurboPaul said:
Drivers of all vehicles should be driving at a speed from which they can stop in the distance they can see and reasonably expect to be clear.
To me a big problem is that people are not concentrating on the job in hand, i.e. driving, and are totally oblivious to what is going on the other side of the windscreen. Modern cars are making that worse, not better.

Minimisation of speed differential really matters.

Ber100

Original Poster:

165 posts

119 months

Cheers for the responses.

End of the day, am not after any education of the pros/cons of speeding but just the question re what happens next as was surprised when it was just a pull alongside and a stare which took me back 30 years when policing was very much about a quiet word/warning if the circumstances merited it of course :-) but then to be honest back then it worked well. Which is more than can be said for the state of some driving we see these days. Speeding aside of course ;-)

Edited by Ber100 on Friday 12th September 13:36

BertBert

20,479 posts

228 months

Ber100 said:
Cheers for the responses.

End of the day, am not after any education of the pros/cons of speeding but just the question re what happens next as was surprised when it was just a pull alongside and a stare which took me back 30 years when policing was very much about a quiet word/warning if the circumstances merited it of course :-) but then to be honest back then it worked well. Which is more than can be said for the state of some driving we see these days. Speeding aside of course ;-)

Edited by Ber100 on Friday 12th September 13:36
Did it work well on this occasion?

Ber100

Original Poster:

165 posts

119 months

BertBert said:
Ber100 said:
Cheers for the responses.

End of the day, am not after any education of the pros/cons of speeding but just the question re what happens next as was surprised when it was just a pull alongside and a stare which took me back 30 years when policing was very much about a quiet word/warning if the circumstances merited it of course :-) but then to be honest back then it worked well. Which is more than can be said for the state of some driving we see these days. Speeding aside of course ;-)

Edited by Ber100 on Friday 12th September 13:36
Did it work well on this occasion?
Well it has been 30 years since last time! So maybe it did ;-)

theplayingmantis

5,148 posts

99 months

Ber100 said:
Cheers for the responses.

End of the day, am not after any education of the pros/cons of speeding but just the question re what happens next as was surprised when it was just a pull alongside and a stare which took me back 30 years when policing was very much about a quiet word/warning if the circumstances merited it of course :-) but then to be honest back then it worked well. Which is more than can be said for the state of some driving we see these days. Speeding aside of course ;-)

Edited by Ber100 on Friday 12th September 13:36
You will probably get a section 59 on spurious overexagerrated emotive language in it hand written by a man child who hasn't advanced above pc in 40 year police career with a fat ugly wife/partner/sister/friend in the passenger seat of their drone box depressing 1.4 litre SUV.

The weather conditions will become treacherous, traffic levels will become heavy, your lane change will be labelled erratic.

All due to abuse of powers by those who have failed at life and take umbrage at those who appear more successful and smarter and with some road craft

Good luck op

Furbo

1,821 posts

49 months

Ber100 said:
He proceeded to pull up alongside me slowly and just look across sternly
Out of interest, was he furry and eating a marmalade sandwich?