No IVA test required now for heavily modified vehicles?
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Hi all,
Reading the new rules on 'Radically Altered Vehicles' - it looks like you only need to inform them of the changes with a form so its recorded on the V5C and not go through an IVA?!
Technically if one was to take a TVR chassis, chop it about to be a mid engined car and put it back together with pretty much all the original bits (apart from the body) it reads like no IVA is now required? Just an MOT!!
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/structural...
Seems too good to be true, effectively getting rid of the IVA requirement for all but kit/kit converted cars.
Reading the new rules on 'Radically Altered Vehicles' - it looks like you only need to inform them of the changes with a form so its recorded on the V5C and not go through an IVA?!
Technically if one was to take a TVR chassis, chop it about to be a mid engined car and put it back together with pretty much all the original bits (apart from the body) it reads like no IVA is now required? Just an MOT!!
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/structural...
Seems too good to be true, effectively getting rid of the IVA requirement for all but kit/kit converted cars.
An IVA is required for a vehicle which cannot be aged or identified. IVA done --> apply for registration --> receive a new number plate. If there is sufficient evidence of date of manufacture, you'll get an age-related plate. If there is sufficient evidence of newness, you'll get a new (currently 75) plate. If the age can't be determined, you'll get a Q plate.
So, if you already have a registration and identity of a vehicle (eg there is a chassis number), so long as this is retained during the modification, it can retain its identity and existing plate.
So, if you already have a registration and identity of a vehicle (eg there is a chassis number), so long as this is retained during the modification, it can retain its identity and existing plate.
paul_c123 said:
An IVA is required for a vehicle which cannot be aged or identified. IVA done --> apply for registration --> receive a new number plate. If there is sufficient evidence of date of manufacture, you'll get an age-related plate. If there is sufficient evidence of newness, you'll get a new (currently 75) plate. If the age can't be determined, you'll get a Q plate.
So, if you already have a registration and identity of a vehicle (eg there is a chassis number), so long as this is retained during the modification, it can retain its identity and existing plate.
It's quite a fundamental change. Previously It would have had to be IVA'd AND end up on a Q plate. For the entire UK vehicle fleet if an essentially homebrew but existing (however modified) chassis MOT'd car is on the road the additional risk is miniscule. So, if you already have a registration and identity of a vehicle (eg there is a chassis number), so long as this is retained during the modification, it can retain its identity and existing plate.
There's a body/chassis to suit pretty much anything you can dream up with modification...temporary loophole or a shot in the arm for the classic car industry?
Think DVLA once notified may at their own discretion still request an IVA for anything they deem too radically altered, but now there's more chance of being able to retain the original reg number.
The changes are too new to be sure as until some brave people go through the new process it's all a bit untested.
The changes are too new to be sure as until some brave people go through the new process it's all a bit untested.
This is a surprising move. One of my concerns is that we will be regulated out of doing anything ourselves and it'll eventually be illegal to work on your own car/house electrics/plumbing etc etc. Things like this give me hope.
I doubt it's happening for the right reasons and that common sense is being applied. It seems more likely to me that this is the result of a failure to provide the service required to perform tests and a dwindling number of people that do anything themselves.
I remember a thread on here a while back where a guy had been told he'd need an IVA as he'd drilled a hole in a bulkhead as part of an EV conversion. Hopefully this will reduce that sort of lunacy.
I doubt it's happening for the right reasons and that common sense is being applied. It seems more likely to me that this is the result of a failure to provide the service required to perform tests and a dwindling number of people that do anything themselves.
I remember a thread on here a while back where a guy had been told he'd need an IVA as he'd drilled a hole in a bulkhead as part of an EV conversion. Hopefully this will reduce that sort of lunacy.
Richard-D said:
This is a surprising move. One of my concerns is that we will be regulated out of doing anything ourselves and it'll eventually be illegal to work on your own car/house electrics/plumbing etc etc. Things like this give me hope.
I doubt it's happening for the right reasons and that common sense is being applied. It seems more likely to me that this is the result of a failure to provide the service required to perform tests and a dwindling number of people that do anything themselves.
I remember a thread on here a while back where a guy had been told he'd need an IVA as he'd drilled a hole in a bulkhead as part of an EV conversion. Hopefully this will reduce that sort of lunacy.
From the various youtubers I've seen covering this in recent weeks it sounds like the change is due to pressure from relevant classic car clubs wanting to make it easier to retain number plates for heritage instead of risking a 'Q' when restoring old cars, and providers of EV conversions that want a clearer easier more certain path to be seen to be offering a green alternative to new expensive EV cars.I doubt it's happening for the right reasons and that common sense is being applied. It seems more likely to me that this is the result of a failure to provide the service required to perform tests and a dwindling number of people that do anything themselves.
I remember a thread on here a while back where a guy had been told he'd need an IVA as he'd drilled a hole in a bulkhead as part of an EV conversion. Hopefully this will reduce that sort of lunacy.
Inspections will still be required to check vehicles meet safety minimums, whether it be IVA or MOT, so for ICE there should be no need to restrict working on own vehicles. I can see such a restriction implemented for EV due to the high voltages and need to avoid electrical bodgery, similar to how proof of work by a professional is needed for any electrical changes in the home come time to sell.
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