RE: New commercial Renault 4 looks vantastic
RE: New commercial Renault 4 looks vantastic
Tuesday 16th September

New commercial Renault 4 looks vantastic

Coming to your local artisan food festival soon (maybe) 


It feels like Renault’s electric reinvention (they say Renaulution; we’d rather not) knows no bounds right now. The return of retro icons has been a hit; the sole Alpine EV seen so far has been received very well. The Scenic is back, and it’s great. Next thing you know, there will be a Safrane and a Sport Spider. But not before Renault has embraced commercial vehicles with this, the 4 E-Tech electric van. 

No clever branding or buzzword required this time - it’s a 4, with larger loadspace rather than rear seats. Which feels very appropriate for a car that resurrects a nameplate famous for its practicality; Renault Chairman Pierre Dreyfus apparently said “Give me some volume!” back in the early '60s, and the 4 is the car that resulted a few years later. The interior space was a big part of the appeal to ‘families and professionals’, according to Reanult. So a van makes some sense, in much the same way that the 4 Savane concept (we’ll keep our fingers crossed for the real thing) does as well, inspired as it is by an original version. Nothing sells quite like heritage right now, which Renault is only too aware of. 

So the 4 E-Tech commercial vehicle is nothing if not back to basics in the most traditional sense of, well, a van. There’s 1,045 litres of space behind the front row and a load length of 1.2m, with an underfloor cable storage area as well; the payload is rated at 375kg, well below the LCV one-tonne threshold, but sufficient to kart around an awful lot of single-origin arabica. (Interestingly, Renault says the original R4 van, which this model ‘continues the utilitarian legacy of’, could carry 300kg, which is some going.)

The 4 E-Tech electric van is built to N1 light commercial vehicle spec by Renault subsidiary Qstomize, which is based in the same Maubeuge Manufacture Ampere facility as the standard car is built. Which is going to save on costs, for sure: the van range currently kicks off at €29,300 (excluding taxes) for the 40kWh, 120hp version, or a little more than £25k. A price for the more powerful variant hasn’t been confirmed, but orders are open now in Europe; suitability for the UK - i.e. the business case for what is clearly a niche filler - is ‘under evaluation’. It feels like there could be some takers, certainly - your business will never look cooler than plastered down the side of a 4 E-Tech…


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PorkerHam

Original Poster:

157 posts

59 months

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Is that really anyone's idea of a van? Rather than a car with the rear seats removed?

Wouldn't a van at the very least have the rear side windows filled in?

GTEYE

2,282 posts

227 months

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All well and good, but it’s not the kind of vehicle that is likely to succeed in the U.K.

As a car though, bring it on!

Inbox

413 posts

3 months

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Never seen a 4 door van like that before, usually have a sliding rear door.

Edited by Inbox on Tuesday 16th September 19:24

Acorn1

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37 months

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Van?

looks like any other eco blob on the road confused

Super Sonic

10,312 posts

71 months

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Underfloor cable storage? Does that mean you can't get at the charging cable when the 'van' is loaded?

Cliftonite

8,614 posts

155 months

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Van?

Automotive equivalent of the Emperor's new clothes?

That is not a van!


Quattr04.

670 posts

8 months

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PorkerHam said:
Is that really anyone's idea of a van? Rather than a car with the rear seats removed?

Wouldn't a van at the very least have the rear side windows filled in?
Yes it’s a bit lazy isn’t it, usually they do either not fit windows or fit fuzzy sort of stuff thst obscures the view


It’s more a commercial than a van, like the Toyota Corolla commercial or discovery commercial which are just cars with no rear seats as apposed to something like the now dead fiesta van or corsa van which had no back windows


The Corolla has blacked out windows





As does the discovery




Not for me though, the mesh bulkhead would mean you can hear everything rattling around in the back


FA57REN

1,206 posts

72 months

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A proper van conversion might actually make that look better. Why even bother with the farcical rear window?

At least the new R5 looks vaguely like a Renault ( though photocopied at 120% ) and has some character.


wolfracesonic

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144 months

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It’s not even got the lift up mini hatch so as to be able to sketchily carry long loads…


CT05 Nose Cone

25,590 posts

244 months

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Do they still count as a tax dodge in some countries?

dunnoreally

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I quite like the idea of a "Renault Safrane Bimotor" EV, I must say. Maybe they could do a launch edition of just 806 cars in collaboration with Irmscher?

Mind you, I never thought I'd say this, but what would really tempt me is a reborn Laguna Coupe.

Jte3397

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dunnoreally said:
I quite like the idea of a "Renault Safrane Bimotor" EV, I must say. Maybe they could do a launch edition of just 806 cars in collaboration with Irmscher?

Mind you, I never thought I'd say this, but what would really tempt me is a reborn Laguna Coupe.
It would need to be a collaboration with Hartge if they're still going. Two trim levels, Alpine and Baccara

Jader1973

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Bit of a fail…it can’t be signwritten like the original.

fking s.


Mikebentley

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Also if it’s classified as a commercial vehicle doesn’t it fall under the higher RFL bracket. It used to royally piss me off when my 2015 Connect cost £250 p.a. to tax. I know it’s an EV but does this change things?

Nickp82

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110 months

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Yeah, could do with being a bit more …. vanny.

Motormouth88

628 posts

77 months

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If that’s a van then I’m a bicycle

s m

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220 months

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Remembered I saw a Renault 4 last week - not seen an original for a while


dunnoreally

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Jte3397 said:
It would need to be a collaboration with Hartge if they're still going.
Alas they are not. Shut up shop in late 2019.

daqinggregg

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Van


Van


Van


Van


Can't quite put my finger on it!

EV8

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CT05 Nose Cone said:
Do they still count as a tax dodge in some countries?
Oh, yes they do! smile