Trumpism in the UK

[Mojooo]

Once Reform get in and start trying to do all sorts of crazy st

Do you think the UK establishment (politicians/legal) and the public will go along with it the same as the USA or will there be more resistance?

I don't think Reform will be as extreme as Trump but I imagine some interesting stuff happening.

[BigMon]

Sounds liike a dreadful Sex Pistols cover.

[bigglesA110]

Mojooo said:

Once Reform get in and start trying to do all sorts of crazy st

Do you think the UK establishment (politicians/legal) and the public will go along with it the same as the USA or will there be more resistance?

I don't think Reform will be as extreme as Trump but I imagine some interesting stuff happening.

You would hope our institutions are less exposed to being corrupted and dismantled by a PM in our context. Thankfully we don't have an all powerful President in our model.

[smifffymoto]

I hope the UK wakes up and starts with a bit of critical thinking about Reform and any other snake oil politics.

[Getragdogleg]

smifffymoto said:

I hope the UK wakes up and starts with a bit of critical thinking about Reform and any other snake oil politics.

I think right now the best thing we can do is to fk them all off and do without for a bit, the ship has been steered by epileptics recently and no input would be smoother and probably safer all round.

[pheonix478]

Getragdogleg said:

I think right now the best thing we can do is to fk them all off and do without for a bit, the ship has been steered by epileptics recently and no input would be smoother and probably safer all round.

In 2010 and 2011, Belgium did not have a government, the fractured election results numerically rendering one effectively impossible. For 600 days they could not change taxes, spending or propose or pass new legislation... draw your own conclusions!

[entropy]

I think we'll get tactical voting in the Commons and the parties will unite to stifle whatever legislation Reform will want to initiate.

There's disillusionment with democracy in the UK as highlighted in the last election but not enough for a huge majority for Reform. Perhaps small majority at best for Reform but more likely they would have to form a coalition and Lib Dems will once again be kingmakers and I can't see Ed Davey playing buddies with Nigel Farage.

[Mr Whippy]

Mojooo said:

Once Reform get in and start trying to do all sorts of crazy st

Do you think the UK establishment (politicians/legal) and the public will go along with it the same as the USA or will there be more resistance?

I don't think Reform will be as extreme as Trump but I imagine some interesting stuff happening.

You mean crazy st like Starmer and friends? Or Boris and buddies?

It’s all the same, a choice of polished turds.

The point is you don’t invite the last two back. And you keep voting them out until they learn to respect their electorate, rather than simply expect to get voted back in every 4-8 years for another game of feather-my-nest by playing crony with their mates.

[John145]

You’d hope the institutions of the state would do all in their power to support the mandate of the democratically elected government. Not sure why you would like the nation’s institutions to hinder this just because you personally don’t like it.

[Mojooo]

Mr Whippy said:

Mojooo said:

Once Reform get in and start trying to do all sorts of crazy st

Do you think the UK establishment (politicians/legal) and the public will go along with it the same as the USA or will there be more resistance?

I don't think Reform will be as extreme as Trump but I imagine some interesting stuff happening.

You mean crazy st like Starmer and friends? Or Boris and buddies?

It s all the same, a choice of polished turds.

The point is you don t invite the last two back. And you keep voting them out until they learn to respect their electorate, rather than simply expect to get voted back in every 4-8 years for another game of feather-my-nest by playing crony with their mates.

Not sure Starmer has done anything crazy

The closest we have come to Trumpism in the UK was when the Govt lost the Supreme court cases over Brexit and the newspapers started calling Judges enemies of the people - and Tory MPs did their best not to disagree 9bearing in mind the govt could have changed the law or just acted reasonably).

Oh and trying to use prorogation as well.

[JagLover]

John145 said:

You d hope the institutions of the state would do all in their power to support the mandate of the democratically elected government. Not sure why you would like the nation s institutions to hinder this just because you personally don t like it.

The weaker the democratic mandate for Reform then the more likely the "blob" will sabotage everything they try to do.

You can also see some kind of logic because if Reform get in with 30-32% of the vote that means an overwhelming majority of the electorate wanted business as usual.

Edited by JagLover on Wednesday 17th September 05:16