RE: Milltek reveals all-new E92 M3 valved exhaust
RE: Milltek reveals all-new E92 M3 valved exhaust
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Milltek reveals all-new E92 M3 valved exhaust

The V8 M3 is one of the best sounding BMW M cars in history - Milltek can make it more so


It’s hard to imagine now, more than 18 years later and with values soaring, but the V8-powered M3 wasn’t all that loved at launch. The usual gripes really: too heavy, too complicated, not M enough - they come around every few years, with the launch of a new generation. Take a look at the PH review from 2007 for proof: ‘instead of relinquishing the keys with that gripping, longing, sadness in my gut that you’d assume would be there having driven the new M3, I find myself oddly detached from it.’ Feels like it could have come straight from a story about the current car, doesn’t it?

But with engines like the 8,400rpm S65 V8 now a distant memory, BMW’s design having veered off in a bold new direction and modifications finding the best from the E9x platform, the 2007-13 M3 is now an in-demand modern classic. £12,495 during Covid was the lowest we saw a manual Coupe; now a similar car is £16,000, cars with less than 100,000 miles are at least £20,000, and up to £50,000 is being asked for the latest, lowest mileage examples. Interest is at a level, arguably, that it hasn't been for a while; perfect time, then, for Milltek to launch a new exhaust range for the V8 M3. 

Having offered exhausts on these cars for a while, it’s the Derby-based company’s first valved system for this M3 vintage, it’s available for all bodystyles, and fits from the cat back. Milltek says the setup ‘represents a step-change from the original factory exhaust’, a package of pipes that offers ‘both refinement and a spine-tingling soundtrack at the press of a button’. We’ll let you be the judge of that from the video; though it must be impossible, really, to make a V8 M3 sound bad, this does seem especially good. 

The new T304L stainless steel exhaust is said to be freer breathing than standard, though no additional power is claimed. That would be a lot to expect from just a cat-back on a naturally aspirated car. Instead, it’s the sound (and the look of the new 80mm tailpipes) that’s the big appeal, with even the Quiet mode a fair bit naughtier than stock. Loud opens the new valves to bypass the silencers for ‘a raw, authentic V8 soundtrack that any petrolhead will appreciate.’ With even the youngest E9x M3s now 12 years old (yes, really), there must be plenty out there that would benefit from a new exhaust, so it would only make sense to upgrade in the process. And if you meet any resistance to that, just suggest it makes the car more desirable to future buyers. If you ever sell. 

Kev Hall, Technical Operations Manager at Milltek Sport, said (if any further persuading was required): “The valves give you the choice: with them closed, it’s refined and composed, but hit the switch, floor the throttle and the valves open - suddenly you’re greeted with the most raucous, spine-tingling V8 note. It’s the sound of a performance car at its absolute best.”

Just bear in mind that, as with pretty much anything on this M3 generation, a lovely new exhaust won’t come cheap: with polished tips, the Milltek V2 valved system is £2,865.60 inc VAT, or with the Cerakote Black finishers seen here, it’s £3,009.60. Best hope values keep rising…


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Gecko1978

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Yesterday (16:12)
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What happens to all these firms in 2035 when exhausts are no longer a thing?

Quhet

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163 months

Yesterday (16:23)
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Gecko1978 said:
What happens to all these firms in 2035 when exhausts are no longer a thing?
The E92 went out of production ~13 years ago and they're still managing to get some value from it. ICE cars won't suddenly cease to exist in 2035.

cerb4.5lee

38,410 posts

197 months

Yesterday (16:27)
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That exhaust looks and sounds very nice for sure. Lovely. smokin

I looked around one of these at a show recently, and I thought how old fashioned they look now. But I did like the way mine looked back in 2013 when I had it though.



Edited by cerb4.5lee on Wednesday 17th September 16:30

stuart100

951 posts

74 months

Yesterday (16:36)
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cerb4.5lee said:
That exhaust looks and sounds very nice for sure. Lovely. smokin

I looked around one of these at a show recently, and I thought how old fashioned they look now. But I did like the way mine looked back in 2013 when I had it though.



Edited by cerb4.5lee on Wednesday 17th September 16:30
Old fashioned inside I’d agree. But a lot of owners thinks the design still looks fresh on the outside.

GTRene

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241 months

Yesterday (16:38)
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sounds better indeed, in closed situation it sounds good, open almost not needed, but I guess good when going full out.

and Lee, missing the M3 a bit? although they stay heavy and so the fun only begins at high rpm I guess.

cerb4.5lee

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197 months

Yesterday (16:45)
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GTRene said:
sounds better indeed, in closed situation it sounds good, open almost not needed, but I guess good when going full out.

and Lee, missing the M3 a bit? although they stay heavy and so the fun only begins at high rpm I guess.
I'm very grateful that I had one Rene, but the car didn't work for me as a daily driver though(I much prefer my F82 M4 in that regard). However...I definitely would entertain one as an occasional car though I think. thumbup

fantheman80

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66 months

Yesterday (16:46)
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Gecko1978 said:
What happens to all these firms in 2035 when exhausts are no longer a thing?
While I agree the future is getting bleaker for the aftermarket, there will be plenty of ICE cars on the road in and well beyond 2035.

Ha, Miltek actually does or did a speaker for teslas...

cerb4.5lee

38,410 posts

197 months

Yesterday (16:48)
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stuart100 said:
cerb4.5lee said:
That exhaust looks and sounds very nice for sure. Lovely. smokin

I looked around one of these at a show recently, and I thought how old fashioned they look now. But I did like the way mine looked back in 2013 when I had it though.



Edited by cerb4.5lee on Wednesday 17th September 16:30
Old fashioned inside I d agree. But a lot of owners thinks the design still looks fresh on the outside.
I think it's difficult when you've had one years back though for me, and I also look at the E90 cars now and I think they look absolutely ancient now, but I had one back in 2006 with the E90 330d though, so that doesn't help really I think.

stuart100

951 posts

74 months

Yesterday (17:06)
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cerb4.5lee said:
stuart100 said:
cerb4.5lee said:
That exhaust looks and sounds very nice for sure. Lovely. smokin

I looked around one of these at a show recently, and I thought how old fashioned they look now. But I did like the way mine looked back in 2013 when I had it though.



Edited by cerb4.5lee on Wednesday 17th September 16:30
Old fashioned inside I d agree. But a lot of owners thinks the design still looks fresh on the outside.
I think it's difficult when you've had one years back though for me, and I also look at the E90 cars now and I think they look absolutely ancient now, but I had one back in 2006 with the E90 330d though, so that doesn't help really I think.
I still have my E93 M3. Was out recently with and F83 M4. I wouldn’t say it looked newer or better (expect the front LED lights). I am only lightly tempted, but realistically I would prefer to move on to something totally different. But after 6 years I don’t have the desire to let go of it.

disco666

420 posts

163 months

Yesterday (17:11)
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Gecko1978 said:
What happens to all these firms in 2035 when exhausts are no longer a thing?
I think the after market will thrive. As people keep hold of older cars they will upgrade instead of replacing.
Bits like exhausts wear out anyway so replacements will be needed.
I can see things becoming almost Cuba like, with plenty of old interesting cars burbling about for decades.
As long as the government doesn't ruin it by hiking fuel duty of course.

cerb4.5lee

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197 months

Yesterday (17:24)
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fantheman80 said:
Gecko1978 said:
What happens to all these firms in 2035 when exhausts are no longer a thing?
While I agree the future is getting bleaker for the aftermarket, there will be plenty of ICE cars on the road in and well beyond 2035.

Ha, Miltek actually does or did a speaker for teslas...
I remember seeing that at the Autosport show in Birmingham a few years back, and myself and my mates did have a bit of a chuckle about it! hehe

cerb4.5lee

38,410 posts

197 months

Yesterday (17:26)
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stuart100 said:
cerb4.5lee said:
stuart100 said:
cerb4.5lee said:
That exhaust looks and sounds very nice for sure. Lovely. smokin

I looked around one of these at a show recently, and I thought how old fashioned they look now. But I did like the way mine looked back in 2013 when I had it though.



Edited by cerb4.5lee on Wednesday 17th September 16:30
Old fashioned inside I d agree. But a lot of owners thinks the design still looks fresh on the outside.
I think it's difficult when you've had one years back though for me, and I also look at the E90 cars now and I think they look absolutely ancient now, but I had one back in 2006 with the E90 330d though, so that doesn't help really I think.
I still have my E93 M3. Was out recently with and F83 M4. I wouldn t say it looked newer or better (expect the front LED lights). I am only lightly tempted, but realistically I would prefer to move on to something totally different. But after 6 years I don t have the desire to let go of it.
My BiL kept his E93 M3 for 11 years as well. thumbup

Frimley111R

17,477 posts

251 months

Yesterday (17:26)
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Gecko1978 said:
What happens to all these firms in 2035 when exhausts are no longer a thing?
Errr what?? Do you think all ICE cars will be banned from the roads? Seriously?

GTRene

19,655 posts

241 months

Yesterday (17:33)
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disco666 said:
Gecko1978 said:
What happens to all these firms in 2035 when exhausts are no longer a thing?
I think the after market will thrive. As people keep hold of older cars they will upgrade instead of replacing.
Bits like exhausts wear out anyway so replacements will be needed.
I can see things becoming almost Cuba like, with plenty of old interesting cars burbling about for decades.
As long as the government doesn't ruin it by hiking fuel duty of course.
This, also I'm getting old, and I want to go on with Old cars. less complex so you can fix a lot yourself, also lots of character and mostly no need to speed, ok I do not need a car daily or for work or so, so a bit easy to say for me, but still.

when my present car is sold some day, I already have a bunch of classics cars in sight collected on my desktop hehe

for example a (TVR) Griffith 400 LHD or a AC Aceca V8 LHD or a Porsche F-G model ala 930 Turbo as base for something more special, and so on.

9k rpm

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Yesterday (18:04)
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Wish I’d never sold mine frown great cars!

I bet this exhaust sounds lovely.


Avus Blue

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Yesterday (18:38)
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Prices on these seem all over the place. Some cars seem dirt cheap then you'll see another with more mileage on going for thousands more. I'm thinking of selling mine as its sat in the garage costing me over £100 a month in tax and insurance and has done less than 1000 miles since last years mot (this year's being done tomorrow) but I have no idea where to pitch it. I have a figure in my head that I think I'd be happy with, but no idea if I'm letting it go too cheap or over pricing it. It's a 2007 manual car, non edc in jerez black with fox red interior, fully forged and balanced bottom end, eventuri intake, Remus cat back, bilstein B12 kit, avant guard M359 wheels and a pinnacle motorsport aluminium undertray. Oh and it's got the proper BMW carbon corner splitters, mirror caps and rear spoiler on. It's on 108k so it's been well used up until the last 3 years where I feel like I've barely driven it. What do you guys think I should ask for it if I were to advertise it for sale?

As for the exhaust in the article, seems like a nice bit of kit and it would be nice to tone it down a bit on cold start if I'm going out early in it, but that's a lot of cash for an exhaust for an old 3 series. Think I paid 1600 for my Remus one, but obviously that isn't valved. It is loud on cold start though, it recently shook the garage so hard on start up that it knocked something off the shelf above the car and onto the bootlid! I've still got the primary cats in too, if I ever gutted them I think I'd have to have the cold start mapped out.

cerb4.5lee

38,410 posts

197 months

Yesterday (18:47)
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Avus Blue said:
Prices on these seem all over the place. Some cars seem dirt cheap then you'll see another with more mileage on going for thousands more. I'm thinking of selling mine as its sat in the garage costing me over £100 a month in tax and insurance and has done less than 1000 miles since last years mot (this year's being done tomorrow) but I have no idea where to pitch it. I have a figure in my head that I think I'd be happy with, but no idea if I'm letting it go too cheap or over pricing it. It's a 2007 manual car, non edc in jerez black with fox red interior, fully forged and balanced bottom end, eventuri intake, Remus cat back, bilstein B12 kit, avant guard M359 wheels and a pinnacle motorsport aluminium undertray. Oh and it's got the proper BMW carbon corner splitters, mirror caps and rear spoiler on. It's on 108k so it's been well used up until the last 3 years where I feel like I've barely driven it. What do you guys think I should ask for it if I were to advertise it for sale?

As for the exhaust in the article, seems like a nice bit of kit and it would be nice to tone it down a bit on cold start if I'm going out early in it, but that's a lot of cash for an exhaust for an old 3 series. Think I paid 1600 for my Remus one, but obviously that isn't valved. It is loud on cold start though, it recently shook the garage so hard on start up that it knocked something off the shelf above the car and onto the bootlid! I've still got the primary cats in too, if I ever gutted them I think I'd have to have the cold start mapped out.
I've just had a look, and prices are all over the shop for them as you say. I remember when I had mine back in 2013, and I did think that they'd appreciate in value eventually with them being the last naturally aspirated M3.

Deep Thought

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Yesterday (19:07)
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cerb4.5lee said:
Avus Blue said:
Prices on these seem all over the place. Some cars seem dirt cheap then you'll see another with more mileage on going for thousands more. I'm thinking of selling mine as its sat in the garage costing me over £100 a month in tax and insurance and has done less than 1000 miles since last years mot (this year's being done tomorrow) but I have no idea where to pitch it. I have a figure in my head that I think I'd be happy with, but no idea if I'm letting it go too cheap or over pricing it. It's a 2007 manual car, non edc in jerez black with fox red interior, fully forged and balanced bottom end, eventuri intake, Remus cat back, bilstein B12 kit, avant guard M359 wheels and a pinnacle motorsport aluminium undertray. Oh and it's got the proper BMW carbon corner splitters, mirror caps and rear spoiler on. It's on 108k so it's been well used up until the last 3 years where I feel like I've barely driven it. What do you guys think I should ask for it if I were to advertise it for sale?

As for the exhaust in the article, seems like a nice bit of kit and it would be nice to tone it down a bit on cold start if I'm going out early in it, but that's a lot of cash for an exhaust for an old 3 series. Think I paid 1600 for my Remus one, but obviously that isn't valved. It is loud on cold start though, it recently shook the garage so hard on start up that it knocked something off the shelf above the car and onto the bootlid! I've still got the primary cats in too, if I ever gutted them I think I'd have to have the cold start mapped out.
I've just had a look, and prices are all over the shop for them as you say. I remember when I had mine back in 2013, and I did think that they'd appreciate in value eventually with them being the last naturally aspirated M3.
Indeed.

They're getting to the point where provenance and maintenance history are coming in to play. Corners have been cut on many when it comes to servicing (when and by whom) and maintenance (routine and pro-active).

Also cars without recent rod bearings and throttle actuators will be worth notably less.


fruitoftheloon

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51 months

Yesterday (19:35)
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Gecko1978 said:
What happens to all these firms in 2035 when exhausts are no longer a thing?
Oh dear....

Pickle_Rick

559 posts

77 months

Yesterday (19:38)
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Gonna sound proper rapid innit bruv