Help on a SF90
Discussion
Why not try a 296 and then decide? I ruled out the SF90 and went 296. Because better looking (IMHO), allegedly better to drive, cheaper, if not faster, then fast enough for sane use (0-124mph in 6.7 seconds like), luggage, a bit smaller etc. That said I haven't even driven an SF90 so I may be missing something. It has been said here that the AF version of the SF90 is a different beast but then you are probably into a good bit more money.
Owned both, firstly the 296, lovely car but didn't inspire confidence like the Sf90. I would have an SF 90 again tomorrow and the only reason I dropped my was the extended warranty which was ridiculously expensive. I would also go for the AF car as I like my cars raw and the AF gives you that feeling. Front lift isn't a problem as they ride quite high anyway.
Lots of people comment on the Sf and the 296 who haven't even driven one, in truth if you didn't tell these people the car was hybrid they wouldn't be able to tell when driving them. Personally I think both cars are awesome, the Sf reminds me a little of the Laf Ferrari and has similar pace. For context I recently purchased a GT3 992 Rs and in comparison it seems slow at best and no more fun to drive!!
Lots of people comment on the Sf and the 296 who haven't even driven one, in truth if you didn't tell these people the car was hybrid they wouldn't be able to tell when driving them. Personally I think both cars are awesome, the Sf reminds me a little of the Laf Ferrari and has similar pace. For context I recently purchased a GT3 992 Rs and in comparison it seems slow at best and no more fun to drive!!
I would want the AF package in hope that it sharpens up the car if I had the money to buy one. Even my Scuderia felt a bit soft, so I assume a modern standard Ferrari would feel a little too comfy for my taste.
There is one for sale for c 359k that looks awesome to my eyes (red seats for the win) - would love that
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/18883992
There is one for sale for c 359k that looks awesome to my eyes (red seats for the win) - would love that
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/18883992
MDL111 said:
I would want the AF package in hope that it sharpens up the car if I had the money to buy one. Even my Scuderia felt a bit soft, so I assume a modern standard Ferrari would feel a little too comfy for my taste.
There is one for sale for c 359k that looks awesome to my eyes (red seats for the win) - would love that
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/18883992
I'm not a huge fan of the SF90 but that looks incredible. When my euromillions numbers come up tonight l'll be buying that or this Pista I've had in my autotrader favourites for a while There is one for sale for c 359k that looks awesome to my eyes (red seats for the win) - would love that
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/18883992
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202507314...
Personally I prefer the 296. More nimble and more of them around for a better selection of cars.
From having been in the SF90, Assetto Fiorano, Spider, XX, 296 GTB and Spider
I would say the SF90 cockpit is bigger and easier for a tall person.
The frunk on the SF90 is exceptionally lacking (not great for trips)
The 296 Spider roof is very low and not great if you needed to wear a helmet.
Both are easy at low speeds but the 296 is better for parking and general visibility
I personally hate the sport seats as they are not comfy and hurt like a bugger if you miss judge you entrance and exit. However they do help in the spider cars to make you sit lower.
Power for the average driver is equal. Both are rocket ships.
From having been in the SF90, Assetto Fiorano, Spider, XX, 296 GTB and Spider
I would say the SF90 cockpit is bigger and easier for a tall person.
The frunk on the SF90 is exceptionally lacking (not great for trips)
The 296 Spider roof is very low and not great if you needed to wear a helmet.
Both are easy at low speeds but the 296 is better for parking and general visibility
I personally hate the sport seats as they are not comfy and hurt like a bugger if you miss judge you entrance and exit. However they do help in the spider cars to make you sit lower.
Power for the average driver is equal. Both are rocket ships.
I've done around 5k miles in an AF SF90, and a similar mileage in a 296 GTB (non AF).
Both are great cars, but I prefer the AF SF90 - it is materially faster than the 296 (torque plus 4 wheel drive); and the Multimatic dampers are sensational on the public road - perfectly judged, neither too soft nor too stiff. The steering is heavier than the 296 (which is a bit light IMV), and more feelsome.
(To be balanced, the 296 sounds better and I think it is prettier.)
You absolutely do not need axle lift on the SF90 - I've never had any problems without it. Just take speed bumps slowly.
Luggage space is indeed limited (and better in the 296); there is some space behind the seats which is useable alongside the frunk.
Interestingly (to me at least!), I found the non AF SF90 too soft; but the AF 296 too stiff. So I chose the non AF set up for the 296, and it works incredibly well on road and circuit.
Both are great cars, but I prefer the AF SF90 - it is materially faster than the 296 (torque plus 4 wheel drive); and the Multimatic dampers are sensational on the public road - perfectly judged, neither too soft nor too stiff. The steering is heavier than the 296 (which is a bit light IMV), and more feelsome.
(To be balanced, the 296 sounds better and I think it is prettier.)
You absolutely do not need axle lift on the SF90 - I've never had any problems without it. Just take speed bumps slowly.
Luggage space is indeed limited (and better in the 296); there is some space behind the seats which is useable alongside the frunk.
Interestingly (to me at least!), I found the non AF SF90 too soft; but the AF 296 too stiff. So I chose the non AF set up for the 296, and it works incredibly well on road and circuit.
stefan1 said:
I've done around 5k miles in an AF SF90, and a similar mileage in a 296 GTB (non AF).
Both are great cars, but I prefer the AF SF90 - it is materially faster than the 296 (torque plus 4 wheel drive); and the Multimatic dampers are sensational on the public road - perfectly judged, neither too soft nor too stiff. The steering is heavier than the 296 (which is a bit light IMV), and more feelsome.
(To be balanced, the 296 sounds better and I think it is prettier.)
You absolutely do not need axle lift on the SF90 - I've never had any problems without it. Just take speed bumps slowly.
Luggage space is indeed limited (and better in the 296); there is some space behind the seats which is useable alongside the frunk.
Interestingly (to me at least!), I found the non AF SF90 too soft; but the AF 296 too stiff. So I chose the non AF set up for the 296, and it works incredibly well on road and circuit.
Do you still own both, if not then how did the depreciation compare?Both are great cars, but I prefer the AF SF90 - it is materially faster than the 296 (torque plus 4 wheel drive); and the Multimatic dampers are sensational on the public road - perfectly judged, neither too soft nor too stiff. The steering is heavier than the 296 (which is a bit light IMV), and more feelsome.
(To be balanced, the 296 sounds better and I think it is prettier.)
You absolutely do not need axle lift on the SF90 - I've never had any problems without it. Just take speed bumps slowly.
Luggage space is indeed limited (and better in the 296); there is some space behind the seats which is useable alongside the frunk.
Interestingly (to me at least!), I found the non AF SF90 too soft; but the AF 296 too stiff. So I chose the non AF set up for the 296, and it works incredibly well on road and circuit.
The 296 in bumpy road mode will glide over the worst of UK roads - does this SF90 have a similar setting?
[quote=stefan1]I've done around 5k miles in an AF SF90, and a similar mileage in a 296 GTB (non AF).
Both are great cars, but I prefer the AF SF90 - it is materially faster than the 296 (torque plus 4 wheel drive); and the Multimatic dampers are sensational on the public road - perfectly judged, neither too soft nor too stiff. The steering is heavier than the 296 (which is a bit light IMV), and more feelsome.
(To be balanced, the 296 sounds better and I think it is prettier.)
You absolutely do not need axle lift on the SF90 - I've never had any problems without it. Just take speed bumps slowly.
Luggage space is indeed limited (and better in the 296); there is some space behind the seats which is useable alongside the frunk.
Interestingly (to me at least!), I found the non AF SF90 too soft; but the AF 296 too stiff. So I chose the non AF set up for the 296, and it works incredibly well on road and circuit.
Hallelujah… been praising the AF SF90 and dissing the base SF90 since 2021 when I picked up my AF SF90.. and yes the same on lift, slightly better than my Pista without lift also.
Both are great cars, but I prefer the AF SF90 - it is materially faster than the 296 (torque plus 4 wheel drive); and the Multimatic dampers are sensational on the public road - perfectly judged, neither too soft nor too stiff. The steering is heavier than the 296 (which is a bit light IMV), and more feelsome.
(To be balanced, the 296 sounds better and I think it is prettier.)
You absolutely do not need axle lift on the SF90 - I've never had any problems without it. Just take speed bumps slowly.
Luggage space is indeed limited (and better in the 296); there is some space behind the seats which is useable alongside the frunk.
Interestingly (to me at least!), I found the non AF SF90 too soft; but the AF 296 too stiff. So I chose the non AF set up for the 296, and it works incredibly well on road and circuit.
Hallelujah… been praising the AF SF90 and dissing the base SF90 since 2021 when I picked up my AF SF90.. and yes the same on lift, slightly better than my Pista without lift also.
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