M400 top speed limitation
Discussion
Scribes note the M400's acceleration/speed as curtailed over 130 mph and thereafter it loses out to competitors to reach a belaboured max of approx. 175 mph. Said, due to airflow resistance created by the increased sized airscoops. That being so, why is the M14 (from photos) vaunted to be capable of 195 mph?
The squared frontal aspect of which (to me) looks anything but aerodynamically superior to the M400.
When compared to it's competitors the top-end fall- off
of the M400's top speed is retrogressive for an otherwise enticing machine.
Comments thereon please.
ps., I take delivery of a new M400 on Friday next.
>> Edited by kenprotheroe on Wednesday 5th October 23:27
The squared frontal aspect of which (to me) looks anything but aerodynamically superior to the M400.
When compared to it's competitors the top-end fall- off
of the M400's top speed is retrogressive for an otherwise enticing machine.
Comments thereon please.
ps., I take delivery of a new M400 on Friday next.
>> Edited by kenprotheroe on Wednesday 5th October 23:27
kenprotheroe said:
ps., I take delivery of a new M400 on Friday next.
I'm Jealous!
Agree about the speed thing, I will be interested (extremely) to see if any mods have been made to the real M14. I wonder why they yse the same mirrors when they have been proven to be very brick wallesque. I think a (new) porshce style mirror with an air vent would improve top end.
Its one of those things that does not really matter as you or I will most likely never test the top end and never need to use its ability, however with the press and media being so abusive and the market so competitive, those all important top end figures and o-62 times, do help to sell cars!
GN
Fear not.
As recently "tested" at Bruntingthorpe a M400 will "just" out acelerate a Lambo Diablo VT all the way to 130-140ish. After that, the Lambo will start to pull away, but quite slowly, with a 10mph difference in speed (160 vs. 170) after 1.5 miles of track.
However, it should be pointed out that the Diablo needs almost twice the stopping distance than the Noble, and hence, in terms of what would be safe on a public road, the Noble would IMHO be the "better" car.
To therefore be in the same league as a £160,000 motoring god such as the Diablo VT one really shouldn't worry too much about what the shape does!
The M14 has been tested at MIRA's wind tunnel (video at www.noblecars.com/noble-video.htm) and in my limited knowledge shows good performance around the front.
J
As recently "tested" at Bruntingthorpe a M400 will "just" out acelerate a Lambo Diablo VT all the way to 130-140ish. After that, the Lambo will start to pull away, but quite slowly, with a 10mph difference in speed (160 vs. 170) after 1.5 miles of track.
However, it should be pointed out that the Diablo needs almost twice the stopping distance than the Noble, and hence, in terms of what would be safe on a public road, the Noble would IMHO be the "better" car.
To therefore be in the same league as a £160,000 motoring god such as the Diablo VT one really shouldn't worry too much about what the shape does!
The M14 has been tested at MIRA's wind tunnel (video at www.noblecars.com/noble-video.htm) and in my limited knowledge shows good performance around the front.
J
Back in the dim distant past, when I first got my M12 I drove over to Germany with a mate and we decided to see just how fast the M12 would go.
We found that getting to 140 was pretty quick, but it took ages to get up to or final speed of 185MPH. This was all measured using GPS.
I recall speaking to Lee after I did this and he had it the same speed as I had.
Any faster than 180 and you start to get on the limits of the tyres.
--Jools
We found that getting to 140 was pretty quick, but it took ages to get up to or final speed of 185MPH. This was all measured using GPS.
I recall speaking to Lee after I did this and he had it the same speed as I had.
Any faster than 180 and you start to get on the limits of the tyres.
--Jools
joolski said:
Back in the dim distant past, when I first got my M12 I drove over to Germany with a mate and we decided to see just how fast the M12 would go.
We found that getting to 140 was pretty quick, but it took ages to get up to or final speed of 185MPH. This was all measured using GPS.
I recall speaking to Lee after I did this and he had it the same speed as I had.
Any faster than 180 and you start to get on the limits of the tyres.
--Jools
I wonder which way the wind was blowing...
ThatPhilBrettGuy said:
To our dear "complainers" of max speed.
To be honest you sound like the chavs in Lax Power saying that your Saxo 1.1 LS won't get past 82mph, and therefore you need the side skirts, spoiler and blue neon add ons to 'sort it'....
Funny that pic disagrees with the weight on the main stats page on noblecars.com. Has it really shed 100kg?
Must admit I suspect 1160kg is more likely than 1060kg. Anyone weighed one?
I think that's the weight without the aircon which is an "option".
Certainly 1060 is stamped on the VIN plate and as such, and from memory it has to be within a certain %age of that for the SVA (I'm sure I read on the Ultima forum of people failing SVA because the car didn't weigh what the VIN said, or maybe I'm going mad???)
J
Certainly 1060 is stamped on the VIN plate and as such, and from memory it has to be within a certain %age of that for the SVA (I'm sure I read on the Ultima forum of people failing SVA because the car didn't weigh what the VIN said, or maybe I'm going mad???)
J
My M400 was the 3rd one to be registered in SA and the car was weighed and printed on the registration disk as 980 kg. I assume that was with no fuel as when I took delivery it took 49 lt of fuel. 12500 miles later and just a LOT of fun. Top speed....well at altitude 4600 ft above sea level I have been to 175.
ThatPhilBrettGuy said:
To our dear "complainers" of max speed.
To be honest you sound like the chavs in Lax Power saying that your Saxo 1.1 LS won't get past 82mph, and therefore you need the side skirts, spoiler and blue neon add ons to 'sort it'....
It should do what it says on the box, if you purchased any other sort of product in a shop and it didn't perform as advertised most people would be demannding there money back! there's nothing chavish about that.
...AS STANDARD the M400 will achieve 173-174mph. The 185mph was a pre-launch estimate and the figure on our website will be corrected this afternoon. Apologies.
The only reliable way of testing top speed is at a high-speed bowl. There are two in the UK (Millbrook and MIRA) but both are too bumpy for sustaining very high speeds, like those achievable in a Noble. That leaves Nardo in Italy, which is out of our reach financially
We use Bruntingthorpe's two mile straight, where the car will hit the speed I've stated. But obviously, we limited by the distance on offer, unlike you would be on a bowl.
The car we use for testing is standard, but if owners decide to enhance their car's performance by fitting un-approved aftermarket mods, then this may - in some cases - actually have a negative effect on the car's top speed.
Simon Hucknall
Press Officer
Noble Automotive Ltd.
The only reliable way of testing top speed is at a high-speed bowl. There are two in the UK (Millbrook and MIRA) but both are too bumpy for sustaining very high speeds, like those achievable in a Noble. That leaves Nardo in Italy, which is out of our reach financially
We use Bruntingthorpe's two mile straight, where the car will hit the speed I've stated. But obviously, we limited by the distance on offer, unlike you would be on a bowl.
The car we use for testing is standard, but if owners decide to enhance their car's performance by fitting un-approved aftermarket mods, then this may - in some cases - actually have a negative effect on the car's top speed.
Simon Hucknall
Press Officer
Noble Automotive Ltd.
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