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Anyone experienced here?
Thinking I might get one for the outdoor kitchen, find some way to install it below. I'm assuming I do need a specific type of TV designed to be outdoors, not that it'll get rained on as it's under the roof.
An initial search is showing me some very expensive kit, hoping there might be something more reasonable out there?
It doesn't need to be big, 40" or so I reckon
Thinking I might get one for the outdoor kitchen, find some way to install it below. I'm assuming I do need a specific type of TV designed to be outdoors, not that it'll get rained on as it's under the roof.
An initial search is showing me some very expensive kit, hoping there might be something more reasonable out there?
It doesn't need to be big, 40" or so I reckon
Outdoor kitchen, check you mr fancy pants!
Does it need to be out there in the winter? I would suggest just a normal TV on a bracket then just take it indoors during the colder months providing you are certain it wont get rained on. I'd also want it on a remote socket or something so that you can isolate it when not in use.
Does it need to be out there in the winter? I would suggest just a normal TV on a bracket then just take it indoors during the colder months providing you are certain it wont get rained on. I'd also want it on a remote socket or something so that you can isolate it when not in use.
Would a flip-down white board with a portable projector hanging from the other side work well here?
Slightly on a tangent, I found a cheap projector and screen on FB Marketplace this summer, and did "back garden cinema" with the kids, and it was very successful for just a few beer tokens...
Slightly on a tangent, I found a cheap projector and screen on FB Marketplace this summer, and did "back garden cinema" with the kids, and it was very successful for just a few beer tokens...
geeks said:
Outdoor kitchen, check you mr fancy pants!
Does it need to be out there in the winter? I would suggest just a normal TV on a bracket then just take it indoors during the colder months providing you are certain it wont get rained on. I'd also want it on a remote socket or something so that you can isolate it when not in use.
Well, I do intend on cooking out there all year round, and given I'll need to keep the bifolds into the house closed, I'd say I'd actually be using this TV more in winter than any other time......Does it need to be out there in the winter? I would suggest just a normal TV on a bracket then just take it indoors during the colder months providing you are certain it wont get rained on. I'd also want it on a remote socket or something so that you can isolate it when not in use.
illmonkey said:
i'd just use a normal TV and take it after the season.
You could get a ceiling mount (with 90 degree angle) and just screw into one of the joists
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225660263556
Ohhhhhh, ceiling mount......doofus here didn't even think that was an option. You could get a ceiling mount (with 90 degree angle) and just screw into one of the joists
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225660263556
This plan might have legs again
See above re: normal TV though, it'll be getting most use in the winter, so it does need to be designed for outdoors really
UTH said:
illmonkey said:
i'd just use a normal TV and take it after the season.
You could get a ceiling mount (with 90 degree angle) and just screw into one of the joists
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225660263556
Ohhhhhh, ceiling mount......doofus here didn't even think that was an option. You could get a ceiling mount (with 90 degree angle) and just screw into one of the joists
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225660263556
This plan might have legs again
See above re: normal TV though, it'll be getting most use in the winter, so it does need to be designed for outdoors really
Outdoor TV's are crazy expensive! you could get 5 OK tv's for the same price, I'd get a cheap one and see how long it lasts!
louiebaby said:
Would a flip-down white board with a portable projector hanging from the other side work well here?
Slightly on a tangent, I found a cheap projector and screen on FB Marketplace this summer, and did "back garden cinema" with the kids, and it was very successful for just a few beer tokens...
Yes I think perhaps this is my backup option, but as I've found with my current cinema screen/projector, it's not great in daylight. Slightly on a tangent, I found a cheap projector and screen on FB Marketplace this summer, and did "back garden cinema" with the kids, and it was very successful for just a few beer tokens...
Obviously this one being under cover and winter months will make that less of an issue, but won't make it perfect I would have thought
illmonkey said:
UTH said:
illmonkey said:
i'd just use a normal TV and take it after the season.
You could get a ceiling mount (with 90 degree angle) and just screw into one of the joists
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225660263556
Ohhhhhh, ceiling mount......doofus here didn't even think that was an option. You could get a ceiling mount (with 90 degree angle) and just screw into one of the joists
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225660263556
This plan might have legs again
See above re: normal TV though, it'll be getting most use in the winter, so it does need to be designed for outdoors really
Outdoor TV's are crazy expensive! you could get 5 OK tv's for the same price, I'd get a cheap one and see how long it lasts!
You are right, I could well risk a cheap as chips normal TV and see what happens
A TV arm mount attached to the post will work.
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You could probably get a perspex box made to protect the back of the screen from the elements too.
Just buy a cheap standard tv.
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You could probably get a perspex box made to protect the back of the screen from the elements too.
Just buy a cheap standard tv.
A TV doesn't need to be rained on directly to make it fail.
Even if it gets some damp inside, it will quickly develop issues, such is the highly sensitive nature of the PCB's inside modern TV's. It will most certainly get damp and condensation inside it if left outside 24/7. Dew will condense on it and inside it on the cooler nights, even in summer.
Additionally, those extremely heavy 'tropical' downpours we often get now can cause a lot of water mist to be blowing about in the air, some of which will get onto the TV.
A mate of mine destroyed a 6 month old Samsung TV by putting his mug of coffee down on the TV stand half under the TV. The very small amount of steam from his coffee went up through the vents in the bottom and within 30 seconds there were large lines of streaked out pixels on the screen right above the coffee. They never went away again despite all efforts to dry it such as blowing warn air through it, on an off for a week. It was knackered.
You might get lucky and it will last for a few years, or it might last a few months. My advice would be to buy the cheapest 40" model you can, and if it fails, you are only out by a few hundred quid.
You pays yer money, and you takes yer chance
Even if it gets some damp inside, it will quickly develop issues, such is the highly sensitive nature of the PCB's inside modern TV's. It will most certainly get damp and condensation inside it if left outside 24/7. Dew will condense on it and inside it on the cooler nights, even in summer.
Additionally, those extremely heavy 'tropical' downpours we often get now can cause a lot of water mist to be blowing about in the air, some of which will get onto the TV.
A mate of mine destroyed a 6 month old Samsung TV by putting his mug of coffee down on the TV stand half under the TV. The very small amount of steam from his coffee went up through the vents in the bottom and within 30 seconds there were large lines of streaked out pixels on the screen right above the coffee. They never went away again despite all efforts to dry it such as blowing warn air through it, on an off for a week. It was knackered.
You might get lucky and it will last for a few years, or it might last a few months. My advice would be to buy the cheapest 40" model you can, and if it fails, you are only out by a few hundred quid.
You pays yer money, and you takes yer chance
Samsung do out an outdoor range called the terrace TV - https://www.samsung.com/uk/lifestyle-tvs/the-terra...
Looks like 55" might be the smallest and about £3k
Looks like 55" might be the smallest and about £3k
Mont Blanc said:
A TV doesn't need to be rained on directly to make it fail.
Even if it gets some damp inside, it will quickly develop issues, such is the highly sensitive nature of the PCB's inside modern TV's. It will most certainly get damp and condensation inside it if left outside 24/7. Dew will condense on it and inside it on the cooler nights, even in summer.
Additionally, those extremely heavy 'tropical' downpours we often get now can cause a lot of water mist to be blowing about in the air, some of which will get onto the TV.
A mate of mine destroyed a 6 month old Samsung TV by putting his mug of coffee down on the TV stand half under the TV. The very small amount of steam from his coffee went up through the vents in the bottom and within 30 seconds there were large lines of streaked out pixels on the screen right above the coffee. They never went away again despite all efforts to dry it such as blowing warn air through it, on an off for a week. It was knackered.
You might get lucky and it will last for a few years, or it might last a few months. My advice would be to buy the cheapest 40" model you can, and if it fails, you are only out by a few hundred quid.
You pays yer money, and you takes yer chance
Hmmmmm, yes this does make sense, I don't imagine it will stay bone dry 24/7, 365. Even if it gets some damp inside, it will quickly develop issues, such is the highly sensitive nature of the PCB's inside modern TV's. It will most certainly get damp and condensation inside it if left outside 24/7. Dew will condense on it and inside it on the cooler nights, even in summer.
Additionally, those extremely heavy 'tropical' downpours we often get now can cause a lot of water mist to be blowing about in the air, some of which will get onto the TV.
A mate of mine destroyed a 6 month old Samsung TV by putting his mug of coffee down on the TV stand half under the TV. The very small amount of steam from his coffee went up through the vents in the bottom and within 30 seconds there were large lines of streaked out pixels on the screen right above the coffee. They never went away again despite all efforts to dry it such as blowing warn air through it, on an off for a week. It was knackered.
You might get lucky and it will last for a few years, or it might last a few months. My advice would be to buy the cheapest 40" model you can, and if it fails, you are only out by a few hundred quid.
You pays yer money, and you takes yer chance
This is looking like my best option: https://www.sylvoxtv.uk/products/outdoor-tv-uk-43-...
UTH said:
Mont Blanc said:
A TV doesn't need to be rained on directly to make it fail.
Even if it gets some damp inside, it will quickly develop issues, such is the highly sensitive nature of the PCB's inside modern TV's. It will most certainly get damp and condensation inside it if left outside 24/7. Dew will condense on it and inside it on the cooler nights, even in summer.
Additionally, those extremely heavy 'tropical' downpours we often get now can cause a lot of water mist to be blowing about in the air, some of which will get onto the TV.
A mate of mine destroyed a 6 month old Samsung TV by putting his mug of coffee down on the TV stand half under the TV. The very small amount of steam from his coffee went up through the vents in the bottom and within 30 seconds there were large lines of streaked out pixels on the screen right above the coffee. They never went away again despite all efforts to dry it such as blowing warn air through it, on an off for a week. It was knackered.
You might get lucky and it will last for a few years, or it might last a few months. My advice would be to buy the cheapest 40" model you can, and if it fails, you are only out by a few hundred quid.
You pays yer money, and you takes yer chance
Hmmmmm, yes this does make sense, I don't imagine it will stay bone dry 24/7, 365. Even if it gets some damp inside, it will quickly develop issues, such is the highly sensitive nature of the PCB's inside modern TV's. It will most certainly get damp and condensation inside it if left outside 24/7. Dew will condense on it and inside it on the cooler nights, even in summer.
Additionally, those extremely heavy 'tropical' downpours we often get now can cause a lot of water mist to be blowing about in the air, some of which will get onto the TV.
A mate of mine destroyed a 6 month old Samsung TV by putting his mug of coffee down on the TV stand half under the TV. The very small amount of steam from his coffee went up through the vents in the bottom and within 30 seconds there were large lines of streaked out pixels on the screen right above the coffee. They never went away again despite all efforts to dry it such as blowing warn air through it, on an off for a week. It was knackered.
You might get lucky and it will last for a few years, or it might last a few months. My advice would be to buy the cheapest 40" model you can, and if it fails, you are only out by a few hundred quid.
You pays yer money, and you takes yer chance
This is looking like my best option: https://www.sylvoxtv.uk/products/outdoor-tv-uk-43-...
Cheaper and worth a test maybe?
Personally I would just buy a cheap second hand telly of farcebook of something and just replace it as it dies, a quick search around seems to suggest a fair number of redditors who have done similar and some remarking on how surprised some of them have lasted
geeks said:
UTH said:
Mont Blanc said:
A TV doesn't need to be rained on directly to make it fail.
Even if it gets some damp inside, it will quickly develop issues, such is the highly sensitive nature of the PCB's inside modern TV's. It will most certainly get damp and condensation inside it if left outside 24/7. Dew will condense on it and inside it on the cooler nights, even in summer.
Additionally, those extremely heavy 'tropical' downpours we often get now can cause a lot of water mist to be blowing about in the air, some of which will get onto the TV.
A mate of mine destroyed a 6 month old Samsung TV by putting his mug of coffee down on the TV stand half under the TV. The very small amount of steam from his coffee went up through the vents in the bottom and within 30 seconds there were large lines of streaked out pixels on the screen right above the coffee. They never went away again despite all efforts to dry it such as blowing warn air through it, on an off for a week. It was knackered.
You might get lucky and it will last for a few years, or it might last a few months. My advice would be to buy the cheapest 40" model you can, and if it fails, you are only out by a few hundred quid.
You pays yer money, and you takes yer chance
Hmmmmm, yes this does make sense, I don't imagine it will stay bone dry 24/7, 365. Even if it gets some damp inside, it will quickly develop issues, such is the highly sensitive nature of the PCB's inside modern TV's. It will most certainly get damp and condensation inside it if left outside 24/7. Dew will condense on it and inside it on the cooler nights, even in summer.
Additionally, those extremely heavy 'tropical' downpours we often get now can cause a lot of water mist to be blowing about in the air, some of which will get onto the TV.
A mate of mine destroyed a 6 month old Samsung TV by putting his mug of coffee down on the TV stand half under the TV. The very small amount of steam from his coffee went up through the vents in the bottom and within 30 seconds there were large lines of streaked out pixels on the screen right above the coffee. They never went away again despite all efforts to dry it such as blowing warn air through it, on an off for a week. It was knackered.
You might get lucky and it will last for a few years, or it might last a few months. My advice would be to buy the cheapest 40" model you can, and if it fails, you are only out by a few hundred quid.
You pays yer money, and you takes yer chance
This is looking like my best option: https://www.sylvoxtv.uk/products/outdoor-tv-uk-43-...
Cheaper and worth a test maybe?
Personally I would just buy a cheap second hand telly of farcebook of something and just replace it as it dies, a quick search around seems to suggest a fair number of redditors who have done similar and some remarking on how surprised some of them have lasted
geeks said:
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Cheaper and worth a test maybe?
Personally I would just buy a cheap second hand telly of farcebook of something and just replace it as it dies, a quick search around seems to suggest a fair number of redditors who have done similar and some remarking on how surprised some of them have lasted
This is probably the best idea.Cheaper and worth a test maybe?
Personally I would just buy a cheap second hand telly of farcebook of something and just replace it as it dies, a quick search around seems to suggest a fair number of redditors who have done similar and some remarking on how surprised some of them have lasted
A quick look on Facebook marketplace near me shows a number of newish 40-50" smart TV's for around £150 from the likes of Samsung.
At £150, it's worth a punt to see how long it lasts. Just make sure the power feed to the TV has a decent inline RCD installed, so that if it does decide to short out and go pop in the middle of the night, it won't disturb anything else (or cause a fire).
UTH said:
Loads of optionshttps://unicol.com/installation/ceiling-mounted/kp...
Or
https://unicol.com/components-accessories/ps1-sing...
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