Quench after head and block skim
Quench after head and block skim
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scoobydo123

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250 posts

82 months

Sunday 5th October
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Hi all ka24de engine so not popular in the UK. I am having to have the block decked and also head skim as going MLS gasket. The pistons are deep dished 7.5 CR at standard deck and head thickness. Got various options avaialble for the new HG thickness as going cometic. How do I go about selecting best gasket thickness for best quench. Head has been skimmed multiple times before (blame previous owner). Block had been decked before but very poorly leaving a finish that looked like a file. Assume this was done when the forged pistons and rods were installed as I think the new pistons wrist pin was offset by design. Want to try and get it right this time :-)

Edited by scoobydo123 on Sunday 5th October 21:27

Sardonicus

19,257 posts

241 months

Monday 6th October
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Little point chasing quench with dished pistons confused

scoobydo123

Original Poster:

250 posts

82 months

Thursday 23rd October
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I was thinking that but AI sent me round in a circle. Tks

Luther Blissett

396 posts

152 months

Monday 3rd November
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Quench still matters, even with deep dish pistons. What determines the distance is how much crank flex or rod stretch the engine undergoes at max revs. As a rule of thumb you want a max clearance of around 1mm for a performance engine.

Sardonicus

19,257 posts

241 months

Monday 3rd November
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Luther Blissett said:
Quench still matters, even with deep dish pistons. What determines the distance is how much crank flex or rod stretch the engine undergoes at max revs. As a rule of thumb you want a max clearance of around 1mm for a performance engine.
Hardly worth the bother though with dished pistons

Luther Blissett

396 posts

152 months

Monday 3rd November
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Why? the benefits of tight quench remain. There's still a quench pad on a head for a reason.

Sardonicus

19,257 posts

241 months

Monday 3rd November
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Even tight quench into an open piston bowl no real world benefits IMO

Luther Blissett

396 posts

152 months

Monday 3rd November
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If the bowl if offset so it doesn't extend to the quench pad it should do something beneficial.

Sardonicus

19,257 posts

241 months

Monday 3rd November
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Think we with have to agree to disagree on this one as I wouldn't be running bowled pistons if I was chasing quench benefits beer

scoobydo123

Original Poster:

250 posts

82 months

Friday 21st November
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Hi thanks these pistons are total bowl style so thanks for confirming not much point in concern. Just aboit to start another question that is delaying me moving onwards.

AER

1,145 posts

290 months

Monday 24th November
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What do people mean by "quench"? Do they mean squish?

Quench is waht you definitely don't want to do once you've lit the fire.

Squish is what gives you increased charge mixing at TDC. You'll need <1.0mm for it to do anything useful, even more so if your squish areas are very small, which is normal for today's 4-valve combustion chambers.

Sardonicus

19,257 posts

241 months

Friday 28th November
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My apologies on all my comments I was referring to squish irked not sure how "Quench" got in my comments banghead misread but Ive left previous comments up or this wont make sense as I haven't either

Edited by Sardonicus on Friday 28th November 13:45