The Green Party - new Labour?
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Zack Polanski seems to be out in force with Green party policies, and aims to take more seats come the next election. Are they trying to out compete Labour and the Lib dems by trying to be more relevant to those on the left?
https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/53108-how-d...
- Abolishing Landlords
- Legalise drugs
- UK leaving NATO
- Tax the very rich
https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/53108-how-d...
Article said:
Zack Polanski describes himself as an eco-populist , and made clear that he wanted the party to focus on broader issues of the left, rather than simply climate change.
Green members validate this stance, with 91% saying it is important for the party to be offering policies on a range of different issues, rather than focussing primarily on the environment and climate change (7%). This proved to be the case even among members who backed the Ramsay-Chowns leadership ticket (81%).
amongst their more radical ideasGreen members validate this stance, with 91% saying it is important for the party to be offering policies on a range of different issues, rather than focussing primarily on the environment and climate change (7%). This proved to be the case even among members who backed the Ramsay-Chowns leadership ticket (81%).
- Abolishing Landlords
- Legalise drugs
- UK leaving NATO
- Tax the very rich
BBC said:
Strong criticism of Labour: Polanski has accused the current government of overseeing a policy of "managed decline" that would see the UK handed to Reform UK "on a plate"
- On a wealth tax: Polanski has advocated for a tax on the wealthiest 1% in society, as a measure to reduce inequality
- On the Israel-Gaza war: He says his party "will not be silent" when "mass slaughter is happening in Palestine", and has called for an end to arms sales, and intelligence sharing, with Israel
- On immigration: "Migrants and refugees are welcome here," Polanski has declared, reflecting on his family's journey to the UK from Latvia
- On privatisation: The Green Party leader has called for an end to the "failed privatisation experiment", pledging to put water in "public hands"
- On climate policy: Polanski has argued that the climate crisis, and the cost of living crisis, are the same thing. He calls for policies to tackle both
- On a wealth tax: Polanski has advocated for a tax on the wealthiest 1% in society, as a measure to reduce inequality
- On the Israel-Gaza war: He says his party "will not be silent" when "mass slaughter is happening in Palestine", and has called for an end to arms sales, and intelligence sharing, with Israel
- On immigration: "Migrants and refugees are welcome here," Polanski has declared, reflecting on his family's journey to the UK from Latvia
- On privatisation: The Green Party leader has called for an end to the "failed privatisation experiment", pledging to put water in "public hands"
- On climate policy: Polanski has argued that the climate crisis, and the cost of living crisis, are the same thing. He calls for policies to tackle both
This comment on Reddit made me laugh
Redditor said:
Lib dems continue to be so in denial that Davey's antics have made him an idiot in the eyes of the public he is currently being beaten by a man with an infamous history of having hypnotised a woman to manifest a breast enlargement
Ultimately neither of those two parties have any intention of doing what is needed to get into Downing St and the only three parties who are even pretending to want to do anything after the next election are Labour, Conservative, and Reform.Sport_Turismo_GTS said:
Derek Smith said:
When Farage was challenged about not costing what he was promising he said, straight out, that he could promise what he wanted as he'd not get in power.
When was that?It's Corbynism in a Green coat.
Labour are going to lose an element of their votebase to the Greens and Your Party; who ironically will dilute each others impact on the political landscape and be forever the annoying drunk uncle at the party. I have no doubt that their spads have already done the maths and figured, like with Corbyn, there are insufficient numbers of the voting population who are all that into owning the means of production, comrade (etc).
Expect lots more prolier than thou anti-capitalism, anti-(western) imperialism, anti-((zionism)) as they whip up their votebase, of largely ex-Corbynites and lefty idealists.
They will be, as ever, entirely insignificant on their own - although they will, ironically, both very much help Farage.
edit: I also find it somewhat amusing that Polanski's strange past has been largely ignored. Maybe that's the power of his mind working?
Labour are going to lose an element of their votebase to the Greens and Your Party; who ironically will dilute each others impact on the political landscape and be forever the annoying drunk uncle at the party. I have no doubt that their spads have already done the maths and figured, like with Corbyn, there are insufficient numbers of the voting population who are all that into owning the means of production, comrade (etc).
Expect lots more prolier than thou anti-capitalism, anti-(western) imperialism, anti-((zionism)) as they whip up their votebase, of largely ex-Corbynites and lefty idealists.
They will be, as ever, entirely insignificant on their own - although they will, ironically, both very much help Farage.
edit: I also find it somewhat amusing that Polanski's strange past has been largely ignored. Maybe that's the power of his mind working?
Edited by ukwill on Monday 6th October 13:15
s1962a said:
amongst their more radical ideas
- Abolishing Landlords
- Legalise drugs
- UK leaving NATO
- Tax the very rich
All of which are, in my opinion, completely insane and/or unachievable.- Abolishing Landlords
- Legalise drugs
- UK leaving NATO
- Tax the very rich
However, I'm not too concerned because Polanski's Greens will likely dilute Labour's voting base. As would Jezbollah, if they ever got their act together.
As another poster said, Labour's spads have probably calculated the damage the Greens can do and have concluded that the Greens aren't a credible threat. Still, there's a long way to go until the next election, so we'll see.
The Labour Party has been less of a safe haven for anti-Semitic views since the Forde Inquiry and EHRC reports. It's possible those voters will find a new home within the Greens or LibDems or YourParty who all seem to be pitching for the anti-Semitic vote.
https://labour.org.uk/resources/the-forde-report/
https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/sites/default/...
I would note though that invariably elections are about bread and butter domestic policy, I doubt Palestine will have a major impact on the next election.
Also the Green Party isn't really an environmental party, it's a [full in the blank] party. The blank is whatever topic is currently trending on social media.
https://labour.org.uk/resources/the-forde-report/
https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/sites/default/...
I would note though that invariably elections are about bread and butter domestic policy, I doubt Palestine will have a major impact on the next election.
Also the Green Party isn't really an environmental party, it's a [full in the blank] party. The blank is whatever topic is currently trending on social media.
The Green Party are not the new Labour Party, they are rampant Commies. They are also not Green, eco or have much of a clue about how one either promotes or protects the environment.
This has been evident for a number of yrs before this plonker turned up. Down in the SW, we are actually crying out for a sensible Green Party. You make rural matters, looking after the land, the ppl, the animals and the surrounding seas the bedrocks of your manifesto and you would wipe the LDs, the Tories and Labour off the map from Exeter onwards.
These f
kwits care about none of the above. They care about landlords more than they do sewage. If I was of a mind, they could really make me livid.
This has been evident for a number of yrs before this plonker turned up. Down in the SW, we are actually crying out for a sensible Green Party. You make rural matters, looking after the land, the ppl, the animals and the surrounding seas the bedrocks of your manifesto and you would wipe the LDs, the Tories and Labour off the map from Exeter onwards.
These f
kwits care about none of the above. They care about landlords more than they do sewage. If I was of a mind, they could really make me livid.DeejRC said:
The Green Party are not the new Labour Party, they are rampant Commies. They are also not Green, eco or have much of a clue about how one either promotes or protects the environment.
This has been evident for a number of yrs before this plonker turned up. Down in the SW, we are actually crying out for a sensible Green Party. You make rural matters, looking after the land, the ppl, the animals and the surrounding seas the bedrocks of your manifesto and you would wipe the LDs, the Tories and Labour off the map from Exeter onwards.
These fkwits care about none of the above. They care about landlords more than they do sewage. If I was of a mind, they could really make me livid.
That!This has been evident for a number of yrs before this plonker turned up. Down in the SW, we are actually crying out for a sensible Green Party. You make rural matters, looking after the land, the ppl, the animals and the surrounding seas the bedrocks of your manifesto and you would wipe the LDs, the Tories and Labour off the map from Exeter onwards.
These f
kwits care about none of the above. They care about landlords more than they do sewage. If I was of a mind, they could really make me livid.Its a trade descriptions act breach frankly! I think most people have an eye on the environment, so the demand is there. But not for no landlords and legalising drugs (I dont care what anyone says, thats a s
t idea, I've had enough experience of drugs and addicts to last me 5 lifetimes!!)Why leave Nato? Who does he think pays 29% of all income tax if not the absolute top 1% of earners?
Their deputy leader seems like a nice bloke
https://x.com/LeoKearse/status/1963025137847902433
His wife's "choice" of clothing does seem a bit at odds with their traditional values though
https://x.com/sirwg202110/status/19633313492399718...
Has anyone asked him to define what a woman is, or how many genders there are>
https://x.com/LeoKearse/status/1963025137847902433
His wife's "choice" of clothing does seem a bit at odds with their traditional values though
https://x.com/sirwg202110/status/19633313492399718...
Has anyone asked him to define what a woman is, or how many genders there are>
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