Varnish for light oak veneer internal doors
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Hi folks
Have any of you any experience in varnishing light oak veneer doors?
We have just had our internal doors changed and I want to get them varnished before they mark. We want to keep the colour so I'd like a light see through finish.
I'd welcome any suggestions on products used and methods (can I apply with a rag or does it need to be painted on?) from those who have done this.
Thanks
Have any of you any experience in varnishing light oak veneer doors?
We have just had our internal doors changed and I want to get them varnished before they mark. We want to keep the colour so I'd like a light see through finish.
I'd welcome any suggestions on products used and methods (can I apply with a rag or does it need to be painted on?) from those who have done this.
Thanks
Any type of oil based finish will darken or yellow oak.
Polyvine make a range of waterbased finishes that work well and will not yellow.
Being a waterbased finish it raises the grain and you'll need to rub down the first coat with fine sandpaper. 240ish.
Have a look at the range. I'd be looking at the specs on Decorators Varnish, Wax finish varnish, which really does feel like a waxed finish and the more heavy duty Interior Extreme Varnish.
You can buy mini pots to try. You can brush it on and wipe it off. The dead flat finish, especially in the Decorators Varnish gives an almost invisible finish.
https://polyvine.com/product-category/varnishes-wo...
Polyvine make a range of waterbased finishes that work well and will not yellow.
Being a waterbased finish it raises the grain and you'll need to rub down the first coat with fine sandpaper. 240ish.
Have a look at the range. I'd be looking at the specs on Decorators Varnish, Wax finish varnish, which really does feel like a waxed finish and the more heavy duty Interior Extreme Varnish.
You can buy mini pots to try. You can brush it on and wipe it off. The dead flat finish, especially in the Decorators Varnish gives an almost invisible finish.
https://polyvine.com/product-category/varnishes-wo...
What finish are you actually looking for?
What is on the doors at the moment?
What are the circumstances in terms of UV, wear, cleaning etc?
Personally I'd be looking for a clear satin water based varnish with some UV protection, because I know what finish I'd be looking for.
That may not be your taste or preference, I am not trying to inflict my preference on anyone else.
Oak tends to change colour with UV exposure, which compounds the issue of the varnish having any tint or its gloss level changing the appearance.
Very pale oak often involves chemistry or white pigment in the finish.
Doors get hands on them around the handle area, any wax/non-setting oil type finish tends to absorb oils from people's skin changing the colour. Children and dogs will make this a bigger issue.
What is on the doors at the moment?
What are the circumstances in terms of UV, wear, cleaning etc?
Personally I'd be looking for a clear satin water based varnish with some UV protection, because I know what finish I'd be looking for.
That may not be your taste or preference, I am not trying to inflict my preference on anyone else.
Oak tends to change colour with UV exposure, which compounds the issue of the varnish having any tint or its gloss level changing the appearance.
Very pale oak often involves chemistry or white pigment in the finish.
Doors get hands on them around the handle area, any wax/non-setting oil type finish tends to absorb oils from people's skin changing the colour. Children and dogs will make this a bigger issue.
dhutch said:
Anything will raise the grain of bare wood, oil less so than waterbased.
mart 63 said:
Danns said:
Don t you mean water based lifts the grain?
No, was told oil based lifts That said, almost anything will need a light rub down, with fine paper or scotchbrite, so it doesnt really matter.
swanny71 said:
bazza white said:
To keep them light then osmo door oil 3033 raw matt. It's got a why pigment in. They will darken but not as much as other products.
We also used this stuff. Easy to apply, didn t darken the doors too much, nice matt finish and seems to be holding up well.
How long do the UV properties of wood finishes last ?
It seems a bit optimistic to expect a couple of thin coats to protect the underlying wood from the ravages of our nearest star.
All I can find is ambitious claims from manufacturer’s advertising departments. Nothing of any real substance.
Does anybody have any real life experience of these UV filter products ?
It seems a bit optimistic to expect a couple of thin coats to protect the underlying wood from the ravages of our nearest star.
All I can find is ambitious claims from manufacturer’s advertising departments. Nothing of any real substance.
Does anybody have any real life experience of these UV filter products ?
loughran said:
How long do the UV properties of wood finishes last ?
It seems a bit optimistic to expect a couple of thin coats to protect the underlying wood from the ravages of our nearest star.
All I can find is ambitious claims from manufacturer s advertising departments. Nothing of any real substance.
Does anybody have any real life experience of these UV filter products ?
We use International 2-pack clear varnish on carbon spars, in the UK it's good for at least 5 years in direct sunlight.It seems a bit optimistic to expect a couple of thin coats to protect the underlying wood from the ravages of our nearest star.
All I can find is ambitious claims from manufacturer s advertising departments. Nothing of any real substance.
Does anybody have any real life experience of these UV filter products ?
That is generally regarded as a top choice for the job of protecting the epoxy, other than opaque paint.
Indoors, window glass should reduce UV somewhat and things tend not to be fully in the sun all day.
There are other 'outdoor' and 'marine' varnishes which claim levels of UV filtering.
I've used a Rustins one which has done OK.
A lot of cars have clear finishes. But often with cars, wax is doing a lot of UV filtering.
I believe that some wood will change colour in the absence of UV, either with visible light only or even no light at all, the varnish may be protecting from oxidation. Or the coating and wood may react over time. Oak is quite chemically reactive as hardwoods go.
It's a big and complex subject where I'm no expert. Luckily I'm happy with wooden things showing their age a bit.
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