Neighbours dogs.. ultrasonic devices?
Neighbours dogs.. ultrasonic devices?
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seany87

Original Poster:

632 posts

188 months

Hi all

Cutting a long story short, our neighbours who our house is attached to, has several dogs of varying breeds.

Me and my wife are understanding, in as much we know dogs bark when the postie comes etc

However the barking has gone beyond the pale over the past couple of years. The neighbours tend to go out often and then when the dogs are alone they go in ‘guard mode’ and bark pretty much constantly at the slightest provocation & and for a while after the trigger has left. E.g if a deliveroo driver pulls up and goes to someone’s house.

The later they are out, the worse the dogs are.
It doesnt help that the dogs are seemingly given the run of the house, looking out the front window and running around the whole house barking their heads off, which we can hear.

We have tried to nicely discuss our concerns over the years, to the point its become extremely triggering for us when the dogs bark. They do actually try and keep the dogs quiet when they are in but the neighbours are, how can I put this, not particularly arsed if they cant hear it, and dont particularly care about our concerns and when we moan about it, tend to shrug their shoulders and now are blanking us.

We are looking to move now, and hoped that would be the end of that. Today we had a viewing with a cash buyer and unfortunately the neighbours were out - the cash buyer LOVED the house and said they actually wanted to put an offer in, but the dogs barking meant there was no way they were going to do so. So we missed out on potentially selling our house which has massively upset the Mrs.

There is no way I can go to the council to complain because it would show up officially when selling. It doesn't sit right with us leaving a buyer of our house with these dogs either. Nor can I knock the neighbours head clean off despite my desire to.

Has anyone tried anything else? Considering an ultrasonic barkbuster of some sort to aim at their house and garden Any recommendations? All I see is questionable ones on amazon with somewhat fishy or poor reviews.
Is there any legal comeback if we did sell our house and the next neighbour has the same issue?

Its hugely depressing and although we love animals I dont think most dog owners really understand just how much their dogs bark and how much misery they can cause….



OutInTheShed

12,369 posts

44 months

You're unlikely to sell without addressing the problem, unless you can find some complete aerosol dog owners as buyers.

Are there other neighbours affected?

seany87

Original Poster:

632 posts

188 months

Other neighbours are also affected, especially if the dogs are outside.
They are full of sympathy towards us, and have also complained..

Of the 3 viewing we have had, the dogs barked on this one. We aren't getting another potential buyer like that, it was literally the perfect house for her. Im gutted really.




Olivera

8,268 posts

257 months

1) Load up on ultrasonic dog barking devices, although I can't comment on their effectiveness
2) Record all barking, including audio recordings if possible
3) Approach neighbours stating that you'll formally complain to the local authority if things don't improve
4) Formally complain to the local authority

Hoofy

78,896 posts

300 months

Complain to the RSPCA? (I might be talking utter ste and am happy to be told so.)

untakenname

5,182 posts

210 months

I've got some bellend nearby who lets their dog out past midnight to bark at the foxes each night, would be interested in a device to stop this as well.

Low tech but wonder if a dog whistle may work?

seany87

Original Poster:

632 posts

188 months

untakenname said:
I've got some bellend nearby who lets their dog out past midnight to bark at the foxes each night, would be interested in a device to stop this as well.

Low tech but wonder if a dog whistle may work?
We have actually tried a dog whistle, but that didn't work. I gather they are more to be used as a training aid, but these next door wont do that to assist us.

Red9zero

9,525 posts

75 months

We have a similar problem with our neighbours dog and are looking at selling next year too. Although, with the dog, our pyscho neighbour herself, her boyfriend and her friends complete inability to park considerately, any viewing is going to be a lottery.

Sford

485 posts

168 months

Not good news but we have what appear to be some no-likey's next door and they have some bully-xl dogs. The bark constantly, not just normal barking but like they are tearing apart some small animal. It is so bad, our other neighbours are trying to sell and are in the same situation as you with a potential buyer being put off by the noise. They even went 100k under the listed price (showed desperation) but the potential buyer wasn't interested.

To say that all of the local authority departments have been pretty poor is an understatement. RSPCA, no harm being done to the dogs (even though they were breeding them like a puppy farm). Police, they aren't breaking a law by having barking dogs. Environmental health (dog waste being pressure washed under neighbours fence) not interested. Same for the noise, would record it but said there wasn't a lot that could be done, dogs bark.

QuartzDad

2,663 posts

140 months

I have a dog, when he goes out for a wee late at night he'll sometimes bark at birds, bats, clouds etc. I was hyper-sensitive to not wanting to annoy the neighbours so bought something like this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bubbacare-Citronella-Auto...

A few sneezes when it was first triggered but he eventually got the message.

Whether your neighbours would use them and who pays for them is a different kettle of fish.

Dashnine

1,621 posts

68 months

Can you consider working out when your neighbours are regularly in, and arrange viewings during that period only during the ‘quiet’ times?

Hoofy

78,896 posts

300 months

A leftfield approach and probably not worthwhile reading but it's Friday and you've clearly got nothing better to do or you'd have stopped reading 16 words ago hehe ...

A couple of years ago, I was chatting on a car forum to a fellow 911 owner about exhaust upgrades and he said he'd put a straight pipe and decat on his (he's stateside, no idea what the rules are). I suggested that my neighbours wouldn't be too impressed. His reply was something like, They wouldn't think twice about getting a dog that barks all day. Hearing dogs barking a lot round here, I upgraded my exhaust that month. At least whenever I hear a dog barking continously, I smile knowing that my car sounds just how a 911 should. biggrin

So OPer, thought about upgrading your exhaust?

Kwackersaki

1,569 posts

246 months

I can fully sympathise with this as it was us a few years ago.

We moved to a new house and not long afterwards, our neighbours got a puppy which they seemed incapable of training and it would run up and down the garden barking at the slightest provocation. Even in the early hours of the morning when they let it out for a wee.

The bloke would at least try to shut it up by shouting at it! The wife would just stand there and watch it and I’m sure she got some perverse enjoyment out of it annoying everyone. They had a 6-7yr old son and I heard him remark “it’s only the neighbours” one time the dog was barking it’s nuts off and that could only have come from the parents.

The neighbours on the opposite side had a newborn and I’m surprised they didn’t say anything. We didn’t as we were planning to move again but one evening after polishing off a bottle of wine, the empty nearly got launched at their house.

It really affected me and I ended up creeping round our garden so as not to set it off and sleeping with earplugs in.

Luckily they put their house on the market about a week after we did and ours sold to the first and only viewers.

We did try a couple of ultrasonic devices but they seemed to have no effect and had to be pointed directly at where the dogs were barking and within 5mtrs, so if the dog was at the top of the garden and the device facing the house, it wouldn’t trigger.

Sheets Tabuer

20,500 posts

233 months

Hoofy said:
Complain to the RSPCA? (I might be talking utter ste and am happy to be told so.)
An old neighbour had a large Alsatian puppy that they thought was cute, as it got bigger and uncontrollable rather than train it they decided to lock it out from 7am until they went to bed, it would bark constantly as you'd expect being a baby and being in solitary it's whole life.

I called the RSPCA and they said does it have water, I said it did and they replied we're not not bothered then. The cheeky fkers then said would you like to make a donation.

Tigerj

418 posts

114 months

We walk past a garden with an ultrasonic cat thing on our dog walk, they have it set up poorly so triggers when you walk past on the pavement. All it does is make ours go nuts when they hear it, if the dog one works similarly you might get the opposite result.

fourstardan

5,847 posts

162 months

This is a case of logging all of the noise and complaining to the council.

You've failed to sell the house on grounds of the reason you won't log it as a dispute. What else are you going to do.

Disputes are becoming a problem, it protects the ignorant arse-ole more than the complainer, I've got the same issue behind my place, woman won't complain but wants me to about a rude loud neighbour she doesn't like but I tolerate.


Hoofy

78,896 posts

300 months

Sheets Tabuer said:
Hoofy said:
Complain to the RSPCA? (I might be talking utter ste and am happy to be told so.)
An old neighbour had a large Alsatian puppy that they thought was cute, as it got bigger and uncontrollable rather than train it they decided to lock it out from 7am until they went to bed, it would bark constantly as you'd expect being a baby and being in solitary it's whole life.

I called the RSPCA and they said does it have water, I said it did and they replied we're not not bothered then. The cheeky fkers then said would you like to make a donation.
hehe

That's annoying.

Cheib

24,656 posts

193 months

Saturday
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seany87 said:
Is there any legal comeback if we did sell our house and the next neighbour has the same issue?
The Law Society form TA6 you have to fill in as a vendor requires you to disclose disputes with neighbours. Can’t remember the exact term. I think you’re probably at a stage already where you are supposed to disclose the conversations you’ve had. The reality is that your neighbour might never disclose the fact it was an ongoing dispute with whoever buys your house.

No idea what that would actually mean if the buyer became aware you had a dispute with your neighbour.

Council noise complaint route probably means a diary of instances and then a council inspection etc. I am guessing it would take six months as a process at a minimum

You could come to an arrangement with your neighbour regarding the dogs and house viewings……they might hope that someone new might now be worried about the dogs.

The Mad Monk

10,786 posts

135 months

Saturday
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Dog Dazer from Amazon

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Red9zero

9,525 posts

75 months

Saturday
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Cheib said:
The Law Society form TA6 you have to fill in as a vendor requires you to disclose disputes with neighbours. Can t remember the exact term. I think you re probably at a stage already where you are supposed to disclose the conversations you ve had. The reality is that your neighbour might never disclose the fact it was an ongoing dispute with whoever buys your house.

No idea what that would actually mean if the buyer became aware you had a dispute with your neighbour.

Council noise complaint route probably means a diary of instances and then a council inspection etc. I am guessing it would take six months as a process at a minimum

You could come to an arrangement with your neighbour regarding the dogs and house viewings they might hope that someone new might now be worried about the dogs.
What is classed as a dispute though ? A few angry words over parking, or reporting to the Police / council ? Our neighbour has "issues", but would disclosing too much information start breaching GDPR ?