What's the most affordable entry to Porsche ownership?
What's the most affordable entry to Porsche ownership?
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slapmatt

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251 months

Thursday 6th October 2005
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I'd need the car for daily use, just a small commute of about 5 miles each way (yeah, yeah, I should buy a pushbike!). Other than that, it's for pure enjoyment.

Below how much money does it become false economy? What would you experts recommend?

verysideways

10,271 posts

301 months

Thursday 6th October 2005
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I reckon a really good entry into (relatively) affordable Porsche ownership is a 944 Lux.
2.7 is lovely, but the 2.5 isn't bad either and can be had for a lot less money (£3k should buy you a very nice 2.5).

Nice simple 8 valve engine (half an early 928 V8 really) which also became the basis for the turbo...

Built really well, not prone to any major failures, but be sure to do the cam belt and tensioner exactly as the experts say, not doing so is a false economy (picture a few bent valves if you don't).

Mate of mine had one as his first Pork, and apart from the insurance which was high because of his age, it was a storming car ('89 2.7 Lux).

IMHO, etc.

VS


>> Edited by verysideways on Thursday 6th October 13:55

slapmatt

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Thursday 6th October 2005
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Thanks VS. I assume the cambelt replacement is 60k miles/5 years?

danww

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259 months

Thursday 6th October 2005
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Or a 944S2 if you can stretch to say 5K.

Just a lot nicer looking imo, with the turbo style body.

Also worth considering would be a 924S with the "proper" 2.5 engine.

My first Porsche (he says like he's owned dozens) was a 944S2 which I sold for an eye wateringly small amount, and was just lovely. It did have a fairly galactic odometer reading, but looked and drove as though it had been clocked forwards.

Be more than happy to share my experiences and advise if you decide to go the S2 route.

Dan

verysideways

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301 months

Thursday 6th October 2005
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can't remember cambelt replacement interval, sorry

re: S2, weren't they afflicted with some of the problems the 968's had with regards to camshaft wear? New cams cost ££££ right?

danww

6,914 posts

259 months

Thursday 6th October 2005
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iirc 40K is the generally recommended interval for the cambelt replacement - no point taking a chance.

re. the camshafts, not that I'm aware of, certainly not something that I can recall hearing about, but could be wrong.

Its such a nice car though. Looks great, practical, cheap, fast enough, hewn from granite, for the money its absolutely totally awesome.

I really can't think of a better car you could buy for 5K than a 944 S2.

Dan

AlanPound

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252 months

Thursday 6th October 2005
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This www.hartech.org.uk/guide.htm seems useful...

cyrus1971

855 posts

268 months

Thursday 6th October 2005
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Naturally depends on budget and the answers you have had so far are all fair ones.

A step up from the 944 occurs at £9K for a 968. Some haggling will get a good one for 8K. 968 sport the best all rounder - a really amazing car and much underrated – 6 speed gearbox from the Audi S2 is good but pin bearings can wear, fine handling, sharp looks, practical, fast, etc etc then £18K for an early boxster which is a landmark car for Porsche but their popularity does reduce the exclusivity somewhat, then £24 K for a 993 which is the most interesting car from any maker for that money in my opinion.

Personally a good Porsche is always the one you own no matter what the cost. To me the best value is a 968 because they are reasonable to service, perform brilliantly, are actually really practical and still look good. As with most Porsches they are an evolution. Can’t go wrong with 968 really.

verysideways

10,271 posts

301 months

Thursday 6th October 2005
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ofcourse a 944 turbo can also be had for £5k in reasonable condition, but it won't be as cheap to run as a Lux, though it will have comparable performance to the S2 albeit with a very different delivery.

ICSD

638 posts

263 months

Thursday 6th October 2005
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Be better if you gave us a budget.

If you've got the money I'd have to recommend (well I would wouldn't I) a 911 3.2 Carrera.

An absolute classic
Relatively cheap to run
Utterly reliable
A blast to drive
Virtually zero depreciation - possibly even going up at the moment.

If you can live with the dodgy roof, buy a Targa for around £12k - or get a Coupe for £14-16k.

askitoglou

27 posts

256 months

Thursday 6th October 2005
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www.pistonheads.com/sales/52434.htm

that looks like good value to me......Ok LHD but still a hell of a car for the money and the milage

slapmatt

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1,132 posts

251 months

Friday 7th October 2005
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Thanks for all your input.

I think about 5 grand for a reasonable 944 S2 sounds a good bet. Now, all I have to do is find one!

ICSD

638 posts

263 months

Friday 7th October 2005
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slapmatt said:
Thanks for all your input.

I think about 5 grand for a reasonable 944 S2 sounds a good bet. Now, all I have to do is find one!


Henry has one - www.911virgin.com/stock.htm

slapmatt

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Friday 7th October 2005
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ICSD said:

www.911virgin.com/stock.htm|www.911virgin.com/stock.htm[/url]

That is a very nice car, not too keen on white though. Black is the colour for me!

verysideways

10,271 posts

301 months

Friday 7th October 2005
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how about the grey turbo?

danww

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259 months

Friday 7th October 2005
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slapmatt said:

ICSD said:

www.911virgin.com/stock.htm|www.911virgin.com/stock.htm[/url]


That is a very nice car, not too keen on white though. Black is the colour for me!


Will you stop it.

My black S2 went to Henry for peanuts and sold in 2 days. I'm fast coming to the conclusion that buying and selling cars is not a core competency for me.

ICSD

638 posts

263 months

Friday 7th October 2005
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slapmatt said:

ICSD said:

www.911virgin.com/stock.htm|www.911virgin.com/stock.htm[/url]


That is a very nice car, not too keen on white though. Black is the colour for me!


Don't say that to Henry or you'll get a lecture about how you should buy on condition and not on colour.

slapmatt

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251 months

Friday 7th October 2005
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You guys...

I'm starting to tot up the funds in my bank account and trying to work out the earliest I can take a trip down the M4.

Anyway, I'm off on holiday for a week on Monday, that should cool off the urges for a bit.

williamp

20,387 posts

302 months

Friday 7th October 2005
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...or you could buy my 294bhp Turbo for £4,500. Its for sale here in the classifides, and on ebay at the moment.

Will

gfreeman

1,768 posts

279 months

Friday 7th October 2005
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verysideways said:
can't remember cambelt replacement interval, sorry

re: S2, weren't they afflicted with some of the problems the 968's had with regards to camshaft wear? New cams cost ££££ right?


Yeah, I had this problem and had to replace the cams, chains and tensioner..

Cost was circa £1200 and I had only done about 130,000 miles......

This is just not good enough! only just run in at this mileage!!!!

tic