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The V10 M6 is 20 years old - is now the time to take the plunge?


We all know that the more practical a performance car is, the cooler it is. Just one of those irrefutable yet unwritten rules of automotive. It applies across all the manufacturers, too: an 8,000rpm Audi RS coupe is cooler than a convertible, a 6.2-litre AMG saloon is cooler than a coupe, a supercharged Jaguar wagon (rare though they are) is cooler than a saloon. Always was, always will be - even if you don’t really care about such things. 

Certainly, the adage is true for BMW M cars. Look at the excitement around recent M3 and M5 Tourings for proof. It must also be one of the reasons why there isn’t quite the love for this E63, V10-powered era of M6 that there is for the mechanically identical M5 saloon and wagon. It doesn’t quite have the cult classic charm of a 5.0-litre four-door or dog bus. And it was a lot more expensive in its day. The M6, moreover, was in the two-door marketplace with more rivals than the M5, with cars like the Aston Vantage, Maserati GranTurismo and, of course, Porsche 911 vying for buyers’ £80,000. 

Add all that to what will always be slightly controversial looks and the M6 has remained a rare proposition. There always seems to be an E60 or E61 M5 for sale - these being much more seldom seen. Same goes for those 997s and Vantages, in fact. It means the M6 is undoubtedly interesting as far as modern classic M cars go. Seriously - when did you last see one on the road? 

Even two decades (and a bit) later, nothing quite looks like an E63 BMW 6 Series. Debate will continue for many more years yet about whether it’s a truly handsome BMW, though we can all agree that what once looked wildly futuristic now seems only ahead of its time. Remember this car went out of production 15 years ago, which seems pretty remarkable given how it looks. The DVD drive and a 9,000rpm tacho definitely age the M6 more than its styling does. 

On initial inspection, this one looks good, especially considering it’s now 19 years old. There are perhaps some small areas for improvement, and it’s going to need an MOT - but we’ve all seen newer cars that present much less smartly. This one is showing almost 70,000 miles, which doesn’t seem like very many; perhaps eight owners does, but that averages out at a little more than a couple of years each. Maybe not the end of the world, and there’s a decent enough service history by the looks of it. Perhaps some were happy simply to have ticked the M V10 box, or the running costs proved untenable…

Keeping one in tip-top condition is, of course, never far from the discussion when it comes to this era of M5 and M6. It’s clearly going to cost an awful lot to run even when running fine, before thinking about any major work that might be required for the engine and gearbox. That can perhaps now be slightly offset by strong residual values (the days of £11,495 Brave Pills certainly seem done), and the growing availability of manual conversion work. That engine, this look and a clutch pedal would surely make for an unforgettable M car. Or even left unmodified, a mighty reminder of when displacement really had no replacement.


SPECIFICATION | BMW M6

Engine: 4,999cc V10
Transmission: 7-speed SMG, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 507@7,750rpm
Torque (lb ft): 383@6,100rpm
MPG: 19.7mpg (NEDC combined)
CO2: 342g/km
First registered: 2006
Recorded mileage: 69,200
Price new: £81,760
Yours for: £19,489

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sidesauce

Original Poster:

2,957 posts

236 months

Hard pass.

I know a very successful songwriter who had one of these, amongst other exotic things; he constantly complained about how expensive it was to run (vs what he felt was somewhat underwhelming power for the price), how thirsty this car was and apparently it has a big appetite for oil too - this coming from a guy who ran all manner of AMGs and Aston Martin's. He got rid of it after about a year.

Personally, I think its successor (F-series design) has aged WAY better than this.

Alpenus

211 posts

48 months

What songs did he write?

sidesauce

Original Poster:

2,957 posts

236 months

Alpenus said:
What songs did he write?
Out of my respect for him I'm not going to to say as doing so would put his name out there... But I can say that he's written over 30 international number one hits for various artists over the past quarter of a century.

JRaj

91 posts

91 months

Money pit from start to finish. BMW went very left field with this car. From the engine to the gearbox to the overall design.

fullleather

298 posts

139 months

I’m more interested in this ‘very successful songwriter’ than I am about the car……darn!

Alpenus

211 posts

48 months

sidesauce said:
Alpenus said:
What songs did he write?
Out of my respect for him I'm not going to to say as doing so would put his name out there... But I can say that he's written over 30 international number one hits for various artists over the past quarter of a century.
Wow, great story, not sure of the relevance to mention it the first place

evil.edna

302 posts

88 months

It's very relevant because it puts the cost of running one of these into context. If somebody at the top of their game who runs other exotica finds the bills a bit hard to swallow, what would somebody with less disposable income make of it.

The poster wasn't name dropping, they were just putting the running costs into perspective for ordinary mortals like me.

MikeM6

5,610 posts

120 months

Having had a couple of these and had one of them for 4 years.... I can agree these are not cheap to run. But my goodness, they are worth it. Looks are subjective, but many have agreed they they have grown into their looks in other 6 series threads and I think they are now a handsome thing. They don't photograph as well though.

The engine is a masterpiece and much more reliable than people think, if it's treated right. The rest of the car is old and will have old car problems. Have a few quid aside for it and keep on top (or ahead) of maintenance.

The gearbox is fun. It's not smooth nor the fastest, but it is fun on full throttle upshift. I grew to appreciate it for what it was, and it is not an automatic. Manual mode only and only use the fastest setting.

It handles really well for a big thing too. I did a track day in mine and it helped up well, even in a tight circuit.

It's fast about 6500 rpm, so it needs revs. It is never slow, but the real power is high in the rev range.

They don't make them like this anymore, which is a sad thing.

Edited by MikeM6 on Tuesday 14th October 08:13

JD2329

503 posts

186 months

This is certainly cheaper than most E60 M5 saloons and it looks to scrub up nicely.
It’s certainly something to buy from a recognised specialist or at least give it a really thorough PPI. The potential for ruin is considerable.
If everything checks out it s a pretty cost effective way to get into a V10 with some spare cash to go towards a manual conversion, if that s your thing.

Edited by JD2329 on Tuesday 14th October 07:28

Jon_S_Rally

4,055 posts

106 months

I'm definitely in the "M5 is cooler" camp, but that's still a lovely car. With a manual swap, I bet it would be a wonderful thing to drive about, aside from the ever-present terror of the engine going bang of course laugh

gonnagetyoursBenny

102 posts

123 months

sidesauce said:
Alpenus said:
What songs did he write?
Out of my respect for him I'm not going to to say as doing so would put his name out there... But I can say that he's written over 30 international number one hits for various artists over the past quarter of a century.
It's not me.

paddy1970

1,158 posts

127 months

Alpenus said:
What songs did he write?
My guess would be: Shape of You, Rockabye, What About Us, etc..: Steve Mac

fullleather

298 posts

139 months

I reckon it’s that bloke called Stevie Wonder!

fantheman80

2,158 posts

67 months

evil.edna said:
It's very relevant because it puts the cost of running one of these into context. If somebody at the top of their game who runs other exotica finds the bills a bit hard to swallow, what would somebody with less disposable income make of it.

The poster wasn't name dropping, they were just putting the running costs into perspective for ordinary mortals like me.
No, he has got form on this. He likes to drop in his celebrity connections when he can. It was 50 cent not long back and his taste in Bentleys.

fullleather

298 posts

139 months

50 cents for a Bentley?

oldaudi

1,513 posts

176 months

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmLjv-ng8ro

Chap on YouTube has bought one ... a few videos about running a used one!

2ono

597 posts

125 months

evil.edna said:
It's very relevant because it puts the cost of running one of these into context. If somebody at the top of their game who runs other exotica finds the bills a bit hard to swallow, what would somebody with less disposable income make of it.

The poster wasn't name dropping, they were just putting the running costs into perspective for ordinary mortals like me.
When new they cost about £86k before options, so that is roughly about £130K now, I don't think it was a car ever meant for ordinary folks pockets.

Bathroom_Security

3,655 posts

135 months

Ive always wanted one in that dark red. I think a couple of choice mods like the one in black here could make them look a little less dated, but personal choice and all that.

That SMG wktronic gearbox with its kerb weight (cant even remember what it was, 1800kg?!) and being old enough to know what ticks my boxes always put that to bed.

Phenomenal engine, possibly one of the most impressive ive experienced ever, dogged by its weight, that smg and running costs that would make someone on 6 figures think nah thanks. The wallet draining M5 thread has been and eye opener too for this platform.





MikeM6

5,610 posts

120 months

2ono said:
When new they cost about £86k before options, so that is roughly about £130K now, I don't think it was a car ever meant for ordinary folks pockets.
I found the extended BMW warranty quite useful on mine.

Augustus Windsock

3,673 posts

173 months

Alpenus said:
sidesauce said:
Alpenus said:
What songs did he write?
Out of my respect for him I'm not going to to say as doing so would put his name out there... But I can say that he's written over 30 international number one hits for various artists over the past quarter of a century.
Wow, great story, not sure of the relevance to mention it the first place
Marco from Roxy Music/ Adan & The Ants bought a settee from me about 6 years ago, even more irrelevant..!
However a guy I went to school with drives one of these. With a red wrap and a big black stripe along bonnet, boot and roof: hardly the ‘low profile’ type of car to drive as a drug dealer in which he still lives…