RE: Renault 5 GT Turbo | PH Auction Block
RE: Renault 5 GT Turbo | PH Auction Block
Tuesday 14th October

Renault 5 GT Turbo | PH Auction Block

Turbocharging the R5 was a stroke of Gallic genius - and there can't be many left better than this one...


While it is undoubtedly a close-run thing, and there will be those that disagree, Renault surely has a claim to the great hot hatch history of all the car manufacturers. From Twingo to Trophy R, it has been churning out the icons for decades, and has already demonstrated that electrification need not be the end of pocket rocket fun. For years, the Megane was the default choice in its segment; the Clio for longer still. Even when perhaps Renault didn’t hit the bullseye, they weren’t too far from the mark (we’ll let you nominate your own suggestions there). 

Whether front- or mid-engined, front- or rear-wheel drive, V6 or battery powered, classic or contemporary, Renault can usually be relied on for a cracking hot hatch. Everyone will have their favourite, and we’ll bet on some form of 5 ranking very highly for all enthusiasts. Whether the wild mid-engined rally stars, the sweet little early Gordinis, or the turbo tykes, they really were memorable machines. Even in the glory days of the hot hatch, the 5 stood out for its design and its impish fun. 

The GT Turbo is now 40 years old, and even in the mid-'80s it was a resolutely old-school proposition. Its pushrod engine had its roots in the 60s, and it was extremely light even by the standards of the day. So you can imagine how raw and exciting one is going to feel in the 2020s. The original cars suffered with some turbo troubles and hot starting issues; phase two cars like this one were improved, and they tend to be the GTTs that have survived to this day. 

Not that many still exist, of course; like so many similar cars of this era, GTs suffered badly from mistreatment when they were cheap, to say nothing of the modifying. No car quite encapsulated the early days of Max Power like a turbocharged Renault 5; no car was quite such a perfect match for Ali G, either. The mad modifying craze undoubtedly created some spectacular things, but man did it take a lot of good cars with it. 

This is about as far from the bad old days of Renault 5 GT Turbos as it’s possible to get, a 1990 Phase 2 car that’s only modification is a modern stereo. Otherwise, it’s absolutely standard, just as it left the dealer 35 years ago, without any changes to the engine, brakes, or suspension. Or interior, for that matter, which looks truly brilliant with the Jaeger dials, red accents, and three-spoke wheel.

Amazingly, this PH Auctions lot has barely covered 25,000 miles with its four owners; the current keeper has covered fewer than 1,500 in a decade. So it means this Turbo is almost unrepeatable in terms of its originality, without restoration or repair for anything. Recent work has included new front discs and pads last year, with a service that included a new rad and coolant flush not long after. Those keen to use the 5 more regularly (easy to see why you might) may find themselves having to renew a few bits as they go, but that’s surely to be expected given the vintage. Or it could be saved for summer shows; whether it’s French themed, Renault themed, or merely celebrating old cars, nothing will garner affection quite like a 5 GT Turbo - especially one that looks as good as this. 


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rossub

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5,296 posts

208 months

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Wouldn’t be surprised to see this reach £30k

Can’t be any left with lower miles.

Terminator X

18,433 posts

222 months

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As a teen-ager in the 80's always wanted one of these. Couldn't afford it or the insurance at that time though.

TX.

Earthdweller

16,478 posts

144 months

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Bought a little red rocket new in Oct 88 .. it was ace when it worked, I lost count of the number of times it went back to the dealer in The first 12-18 months till they finally fixed everything the factory hadn't built right

After that it ran fine and reliably until May 92 when I px'd it for a Clio 16V

still I got to drive pretty much every car in the Renault line up from a R5 Campus to a R25 whilst I had it

Top tip .. carry a clutch cable in the boot

smile

Yes it was a brilliant little rocket

tight fart

3,264 posts

291 months

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Ours ran faultlessly, until it was stolen off the drive.

119

14,533 posts

54 months

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Earthdweller said:
Bought a little red rocket new in Oct 88 .. it was ace when it worked, I lost count of the number of times it went back to the dealer in The first 12-18 months till they finally fixed everything the factory hadn't built right

After that it ran fine and reliably until May 92 when I px'd it for a Clio 16V

still I got to drive pretty much every car in the Renault line up from a R5 Campus to a R25 whilst I had it

Top tip .. carry a clutch cable in the boot

smile

Yes it was a brilliant little rocket
Clutch cable or the dumb plastic self adjusting ratchet on the clutch pedal.

Had a mark one and two and loved every minute of driving them.

A friend a lowly 1.6 205 Gti and never felt as lively when I drove it.


j333evo

43 posts

201 months

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Had two, a 1988 E’ reg in black that I didn’t have for long as someone ran into the back of at a pedestrian crossing. Before this it had the turbo blow up after two weeks of ownership but was replaced under warranty by a Turbo Technics unit.

With the insurance payout it was replaced with a 1990 H’ reg in Tungsten Grey like this one. I had it from 1998 to 2003 when it was sold to fund a Lancia Delta integrale.

It proved super reliable even when running more power than standard. About 150bhp170lb/ft iirc from a rolling road I took it to, with the aid of a mongoose s/s turbo back system, GT Tuning “Lobster back” carburettor intake with cold air induction system, and in car adjustable boost controller which I rebuilt the carburettor with new sized jets. I had also swapped over the rebuilt turbo from the black turbo which for some reason the insurance company let me keep for free.

It was quicker than the phase 1 Clio 172’s when they came out. Though I had a Clio 182 Trophy years later which was a superb car.


nismo48

5,659 posts

225 months

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Fantastic car and looks in excellent condition too.

Water Fairy

6,246 posts

173 months

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Had my ass handed to me by one of these, probably around 2004 whilst driving a slightly modded Saab 900T Sensonic with around 200bhp. To this day I still try to convince myself the 5 wasn't standard either. It wasn't a twisty road but a slip road. Straight line it just left me for dead.

Earthdweller

16,478 posts

144 months

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I picked my Future Irish brother in law up in mine at Stansted when he was visiting

He drove an Ascona 1.6d at the time ( 1st gen cavalier)

Floored it down the slip onto the M11 his face wax a picture laugh couldn't believe something so small could go so fast

I did pick his sister up for our first date in it .. rather proud of it ... her opinion was "titty little car" .. not impressed

Still 34 years later we are still together even if she didn't appreciate the red rocket smile

So her taste couldn't have been all bad !

ImbackYo

483 posts

30 months

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Ive had 11 of these. I used to pop a head gasket and bodge a new one in 4 hours. The good old college skint days. lol

1690cc

179 posts

34 months

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Had a black one in 1988. F200MLT. Paid £7100 for it at 6 months old I think. Coming out of an XR2 it felt so fast when that turbo started working. I loved every minute in it, although, it went in for clutch cables 3 times and hot starting issues 3 times. Also the boot hatch would so often not click shut I gave up using the boot and I dented the door when I caught my knee on it whilst washing it. I remember swapping in a Kenwood removable stereo that I used to carry around the shops like a complete prat. Oh to be a carefree 20 year old again with a hot hatch and an easily impressed girlfriend with low standards.

wiggers

6 posts

155 months

Tuesday
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I saw A beautiful white 5gt Turbo at veolia rubbish disposal unloading plasterboard a couple of weeks ago. Bloke didn’t look happy and said his girlfriend wouldn’t let him use her car because it gets a puncture every time it goes there.
It looked fantastic 😍

cerb4.5lee

39,010 posts

198 months

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Water Fairy said:
Had my ass handed to me by one of these, probably around 2004 whilst driving a slightly modded Saab 900T Sensonic with around 200bhp. To this day I still try to convince myself the 5 wasn't standard either. It wasn't a twisty road but a slip road. Straight line it just left me for dead.
I've fond memories of messing around with these at the traffic light GP back in the 90's. I took one on in my XR4x4 once, and I managed to get away first and stay there, however I tried it again with another one a few months later, and I got absolutely left for dead too. That second one was definitely tuned for sure! hehe

davidc1

1,612 posts

180 months

Tuesday
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As a schoolboy in the 80s a group of us used to go to the chippy and slatters bakery at lunchbreak and then have a walk around Renault sydenham . Loads of new ones in the car park! I distinctly remember the phase 1s with the wheel caps rather than the alloys.

Never got a 5turbo. But had 2 clio 16v and a 197cup and a 200 cup.

Benzinaio

375 posts

20 months

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I had the much cheaper (second hand at any rate) and nearly as good 11Turbo.
Not as polished as my mark 1 Golf GTI but loved the boosty nature.I seem to remember the cooling fans being on all the time.

ttthilvester

168 posts

168 months

Yesterday (06:36)
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That looks lovely.
This one owned for about 3 years in the early 90s - super reliable and cheap to run. Had to handle daily commutes from Surrey to Dorset and never missed a beat.
Only sold to finance house purchase, and very much missed.
Now run an Abarth 500, which to my mind is a modern interpretation of that 5GTT. smile

Edited by ttthilvester on Wednesday 15th October 06:42

PRO5T

6,238 posts

43 months

Yesterday (06:46)
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I despair at the mileage these new classics do but then I remember how unreliable they were when contemporary and understand why!

Where do you find the parts for these things these days? Bits were getting hard to track down in the mid 90s never mind now.

Or do you just go in with the mind set of it’s nice to look at and to go to summer shows in? I can’t imagine a summer road trip with a few laps of the ring in it!

COLONEL_SMITH

272 posts

255 months

Yesterday (07:07)
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Had a black GT Turbo for a few years. G182 VBU, mad how I can remember all my old cars number plates. It was bog standard when I got it, think I paid £3500 for it.
GT Tuning was the place everyone was going to at the time so off we went down to Poole, picked it after a few hours later lowered with an adjustable boost controller(was a bleed valve with a fancy name). Never had a car that cornered so well, only got better when I stuck some 15" alloys on with Yokahama A510s. After that I remove the decals from the side, added the boy racer Scorpion exhaust with 4"tail, Clio 16V bonnet and roof spoiler. Loved that car and only sold it to buy an E30 M3.

coppice

9,346 posts

162 months

Yesterday (07:09)
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Looked at one before I bought the first of two Uno Turbos . It was certainly very quick, but the engine did feel a tad old school compared to the Uno, with very noticeable turbo lag . But what lovely choices to have - Golf GTi , 205GTi , Uno Turbo and R5 Turbo - all much quicker than the typical cars of the time - Cavaliers, Sierras , 305s and Acclaims etc

Pereldh

685 posts

130 months

Yesterday (08:06)
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coppice said:
Looked at one before I bought the first of two Uno Turbos . It was certainly very quick, but the engine did feel a tad old school compared to the Uno, with very noticeable turbo lag . But what lovely choices to have - Golf GTi , 205GTi , Uno Turbo and R5 Turbo - all much quicker than the typical cars of the time - Cavaliers, Sierras , 305s and Acclaims etc
Agreed - Fiat was at the forefront of turbocharging in its day! Same thing w the Croma Turbo, ahead of its time and faster than the competitors. I loved my Uno Turbo and it would be my choice today, even if the Renault & Peugeot both had the edge handling-wise.

Astonishing how people mix up this Renault 5 with the pre-1985 Renault 5 - which was a completely different car.

I guess the designers did a very good job at making it Retro-design - the first of its kind?
Think its a design masterpiece much like the Mercedes E-class W124 from the same year.. The Sacco of supermini's? smile

Here's the original Renault 5 Turbo - longitudal engine and closely related to Renault 4.




Edited by Pereldh on Wednesday 15th October 16:55