Internal doors: fire or non-fire
Internal doors: fire or non-fire
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SonicHedgeHog

Original Poster:

2,637 posts

200 months

I’m about to pull the trigger on some new internal doors for a 20 year old flat. The current doors are white panel doors. They have automatic closing mechanisms and a white beading inset into the frame. We think, but do not know that they may be fire doors. Does anyone know if this guess is likely correct and if so, does that mean we have to replace with fire doors or are regular doors ok?

Jayyy

273 posts

216 months

They will be fire doors I imagine, the white beading is likely the intumescent strip - I've got similar in a flat of the same age. My understanding is that all entrance doors to individual flats, and for those at first floor level and above, any internals into the hallway and leading back to the entrance must be fire rated by law. I could be out on this, but if it is right and your flat is anything like the one I've got that will basically mean all doors must be fire doors.

You'll know by the weight as soon as you take them off.

Rough101

2,799 posts

93 months

Yeah, they sound like fire doors, even late 60’s flats had a fire door somewhere between the kitchen and hall.

At least the intumescent strip is in the frame, saves adding it routed into the door.

As per the post above, take one off and they’ll be heavy.

Fire doors need fitted to a tight tolerance as well, keep seeing brand new professionally fitted ones getting rejected!

SonicHedgeHog

Original Poster:

2,637 posts

200 months

Agreed. I’ve been doing some digging and they are required. A real PITA as glazed fire doors are very expensive. Thinking cap on. Thanks.

Little Lofty

3,689 posts

169 months

Standard doors are usually 35mm thick, fire-doors are 44mm. These sound like fire-doors, replacements need to be fitted by someone competent, and yes, glazed fire doors are VERY expensive.

Arranguez

394 posts

91 months

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I’m looking for a 15 panel glazed fire door. XL Joinery used to do them until they went bust. Was about £300. Any advice where to try next? I am having very little luck.

S6PNJ

5,678 posts

299 months

Saturday
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Arranguez said:
XL Joinery used to do them until they went bust.
Still seem to be trading. What makes you think they went bust? https://xljoinery.co.uk/

Arranguez

394 posts

91 months

Saturday
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My order wasn’t fulfilled. They have been bought by someone else and are trading but inly have what stock was left and no ability to bespoke anything for 9-12 months.

Little Lofty

3,689 posts

169 months

Saturday
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It must be 25 years since I last fitted a 15 light door. £300 seems very cheap, probably why they went bust smile

Gtom

1,758 posts

150 months

Saturday
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Arranguez said:
I m looking for a 15 panel glazed fire door. XL Joinery used to do them until they went bust. Was about £300. Any advice where to try next? I am having very little luck.
Get one like this and put some mock beading on it

https://www.vibrantdoors.co.uk/fire-doors/glazed-f...


Arranguez

394 posts

91 months

Yesterday (10:39)
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That isn’t a bad shout.

Arranguez

394 posts

91 months

Yesterday (10:40)
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Little Lofty said:
It must be 25 years since I last fitted a 15 light door. £300 seems very cheap, probably why they went bust smile
Having looked at some alternative styles I agree. Need double that budget.